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| If you had always sat in the same seat, and Fully decided he was going to sit there now because of a nice throw he had put on his sofa but didn't tell you he would have people on hand to make sure the seat was his until you had nearly taken your seat.
Such a fuss would not be getting kicked up if people knew before purchasing what they were getting.
General admission tickets or stated section.
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| Don't know how I got dragged into this but anyhoo away from that, it's quite simply the principle.
I'm sure the majority of fans between both clubs have common-sense and have integrated well before. Wakefield fans have been telling us all season long that they have some fans in with ours at that North End.
Logistically, I cannot see how it is going to be enforced. James Elston has replied to me stating I can stand behind the posts should I so wish. This is purely so that all fans are together; if this is the case, why the need for the pretty forthright instructions and pretty read squares. I am confident that both sets of fans have enough sense about them to know their own fans and where they want to stand.
As people have said tickets have been sold to fans on the premise of it being general standing. General standing means I can stand anywhere that is standing.
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| This does seem to be a bit of a storm in a teacup. The majority of old style stadiums now have a restricted area where the away fans can stand which just happens to not be undercover - Leeds, Bradford, Hull KR etc.
With Wakey taking this stance it seems Cas are the only team in an old style stadium who will allow away fans to stand anywhere they like and for me that's how it should stay. People have been suggesting we 'make' the away fans stand at the railway end. Well I usually stand at that end so presumably I wouldn't be able to anymore if that's gonna be away fans only - not good!!
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| Sorry for "bringing you into this" Fully, was a tongue in cheek analogy- mainly because I know you can take a little light hearted derby banter.
To quote a moron who was paraphrasing another lowlife: "Calm down dears!"
Just follow common sense & stand in the allocated areas, sing for your team & let's all have a great time, all 11k of us!
Safe trip over Tigers fans.
If there is this much fuss over Good Friday can you imagine what It'd be like if you moved to NM!- Again tongue in cheek CT fans.
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| Talk about an over reaction the east terrace is ok with the seating cover covering some of the standing cover so should create a good atmosphere
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| Quote ="waltontiger"Are Wakey for real?
So 'football segragation' is finally going ahead.....
How will this be enforced? Do all fans have to keep their ticket on them at all times in case the Ticket Gestapo come a calling?
How do the Wakey fans who normally stand in the now Cas Corner feel about being moved?
I know Wakey fans who have stood there for years.
And Why should Cas not retaliate in kind with standing arrangements for the return fixture.
Talk about stirring up a hornets nest before a passionate game, I suggest more stewards may be needed.
Why not leave it up to fans and common sense for where you stand....mind you it is Wakeys game and as such theirs to steward properly should anything happen, their problem with the RFL.....'"
The RFL has been consulted in all this and are in full agreement with what is happening, just as they are with the Featherstone game. The stand will be heavily policed by stewards to ensure that order is maintained. Any fan(s) of either team deemed to be causing an issue in the oppositions designated area will be dealt with appropriately and the relevent authorities informed. This game should be enjoyed by all and any trouble causers from both clubs will be punished.
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| Quote ="Big Man"I've stood behind them sticks for too many years to mention in every kind of weather.'"
Once a year?
Get a grip on yourself man!
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| Quote ="sixtogo"The stand will be heavily policed by stewards to ensure that order is maintained. Any fan(s) of either team deemed to be causing an issue in the oppositions designated area will be dealt with appropriately and the relevent authorities informed. This game should be enjoyed by all and any trouble causers from both clubs will be punished.'"
As I have put on the Wakey forum, would a zero tolerance on drunken behaviour policy not have worked the same?
Just how will the designated areas be marked out?
Will there be no Wakey fans in the Cas areas? or Will it be (hopefully) common sense?
I have stood behind the sticks for 20 odd years with Wakey and Cas fans alike, to be told 2 days before that I cannot now do that just sticks a little, maybe I should email Mr Elston as well......
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| Quote ="Gronk!"The general admission tickets state that you can be anywhere in the ground that allows standing.
Adding this rule 3 weeks after ticket sales started could (and seemingly has) caused problems.
Just an example here, by changing the rules 2 days before the game a "general admission" ticket is no longer for general admission which is false advertising, so Wakefield now will have to offer a full refund to anyone who will no longer attend the game having already purchased tickets.
It doesn't effect me anyway because I've more important things to do than go to Wakefield.'"
having a hissy fit and you are not going. Why bother to type?
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| Quote ="TrinitarianWF2"Can you pick out the key word which undermines your statement?
Oh & btw how many WR derby games have you kids been to? WTW fans ALWAYS stand in the Railway end, which is uncovered & has a bar which I am unable to access because I am a visiting fan. Not once did I kick up a fuss, I stood with my bredrin & supported my team come what may. I suggest a few of you grow a pair & remember what your folks told you about being respectful in someone else's house!
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If I went round to Fullys house and sat in his place on his sofa, next to his nearest & dearest, after he "asked" me to take a seat in the armchair I wouldn't laugh in his face & make a beeline for the Lazyboy! I'd sit where he asked & say thank you!'"
The railway end is uncovered but you can stand wherever you like, also the bar there isn't unavailable to you because your a visiting fan, it's a Cas supporters club bar, you have to pay to be a member, most can fans cant use it
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| Quote ="waltontiger"As I have put on the Wakey forum, would a zero tolerance on drunken behaviour policy not have worked the same?
Just how will the designated areas be marked out?
Will there be no Wakey fans in the Cas areas? or Will it be (hopefully) common sense?
I have stood behind the sticks for 20 odd years with Wakey and Cas fans alike, to be told 2 days before that I cannot now do that just sticks a little, maybe I should email Mr Elston as well......'"
Had I not bought me & thee tickets 13 hours ago, I'd happily just not go. As stated, there's going to be wakefield fans in the north east & East. Would love to know how / why they charge more then us too. Put a roof on a stand and suddenly we're not allowed in! From my point of view, they can shove their ty north stand, shove their ty city where the sun don't shine.
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| We are allowed in - albeit from the diagram a very small bit.
That being said, with the tickets saying general standing, I don't think Wakefield can prevent us from moving elsewhere should we so wish as long as it's not to cause trouble.
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| Quote ="Fully"We are allowed in - albeit from the diagram a very small bit.
That being said, with the tickets saying general standing, I don't think Wakefield can prevent us from moving elsewhere should we so wish as long as it's not to cause trouble.'"
Common sense prevails, if from an unlikely source!
Clearly, Mr G has invested £300k or so in these new stands and it seems reasonable that the loyal WTW fans who have helped him do that should reap the greatest benefit; that seems fair enough to me and I can't see any reason for the over-dramatic dummy spitting that some people are engaging in.
Just think yourselves lucky we don't make like Hull FC and charge you an extra three quid to get in!
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| Quote ="bren2k"Common sense prevails, if from an unlikely source!
Clearly, Mr G has invested £300k or so in these new stands and it seems reasonable that the loyal WTW fans who have helped him do that should reap the greatest benefit; that seems fair enough to me and I can't see any reason for the over-dramatic dummy spitting that some people are engaging in.
Just think yourselves lucky we don't make like Hull FC and charge you an extra three quid to get in!'"
Could at least provide umbrellas for all as well.
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| Quote ="Towns88" shove their rubbish city where the sun don't shine.'"
oh dear, have you forgot that Castleford is in Wakefield, or didn't you realise that this is the case
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| Quote ="Fully"Could at least provide umbrellas for all as well.
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Meet me in the car park Fully - I'll loan you my gold umbrella.
It's red, white and blue, with a massive WTW logo - is that ok?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Meet me in the car park Fully - I'll loan you my gold umbrella.
It's red, white and blue, with a massive WTW logo - is that ok?
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It'll come back with Cas stickers on - is that OK?
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| Quote ="Atilla"oh dear, have you forgot that Castleford is in Wakefield, or didn't you realise that this is the case
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Not from Castleford pal. It was more in reference to the daft "city is ours" advert.
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| Gold umbrella?! Should have said golf.
For the sake of inter-club harmony, I can live with the Cas stickers; it will be enough for me to know that in my own small way, I've extended an olive branch to another member of the RL family.
I genuinely hope any bitterness about the decision to segregate is gone by Friday - would be awesome if both sets of fans pack the place out and sing each other into submission; a proper rugby league derby in a proper rugby league ground - we'll miss it when it's gone.
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| Could backfire on wakey this. Upset the fans and they stay away, simples.
I dont do caravan park anymore, they do nothing for away support.
Clubs treat you poorly, they dont get your hard earned cash.
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What a fuss over nothing. As you can see there is no segregation as you can go behind the posts. You are just being asked to enter via Doncaster Rd. If you bring 5000 fans then I'm sure you'll take over most of the north stand. It's just a crowd management mechanism anticipating the likelihood that more Wakefield fans than usual will want to "go north". Enjoy the game, but hopefully not the result
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| Can't blame Wakey for trying this, as I feel the home support has always had a disadvantage where crowd volume is concerned at BV compared to other home teams (ourselves included). Now they have a chance to make themselves heard and IMO its long overdue.
However, antagonising away fans 2 days before a derby game that is sure to be a sell out probably isn't the best idea. I have no issues where I stand, but would rather mix with the Wakey fans as we have always done than be segregated away from them. Banter between fans is part of our game.
I can understand they want to try and minimise the trouble that would no doubt ensue after people have been out on an all day bender due to the bank holiday, however, I think they may cause a them and us culture especially if there are stewards in a line down the middle. It only takes one idiot to shout/throw something before it all kicks off.
What are they going to do if the majority of the Wakey fans don't bother to stand in the North Terrace because they've always stood elsewhere? allow us to go there?
How are they going to determine who is supporting who if you don't wear the colours?
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| Seems a bit childish to be honest. There never should be any segregation at rugby league, that's what makes our sport special.
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