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| I have a sneeking suspicion that Inflatable Armadildo is not what he purports to be ( a Rhinos fan with an interest). He speaks very much like a politician so my guess is that he is is actually a long serving Trin Fan with an history in politics. Dave Hinchcliffe anyone?
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| Quote ="chissitt"The man does not have an agenda, he is a rhinos' fan and also a rugby fan who happens to want both clubs in SL with new stadiums, and it just so happens that he lives near Newmarket and wants all the proposed plans for the ground and the industrial units passed for various reasons which I doubt has anything to do with GH getting built.
Thats the problem, you have been listening to the club for far too long now with its semi truths, unlike Mr Wright IA does not need to tell you lies, just the facts as he sees them which unfortunately fwiw you seem to want to ignore.'"
Oh i think he does have an agenda, indeed its very clear that he has one, i know it would suit you to think he hasn't since he has spent the last 18 months telling wakefield fans everything they want to hear regarding both nm and gh (including that nm wouldn't go to pi, which as we all now know was very wrong).
He doesn't need to lie, lots of people don't need to lie but do, or represent half baked rumors as if they were facts, especially on here.
I know you would like to think that ia has us all scared but in reality were all just bored with his tedious trolling.
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| Quote ="cas69"I have a sneeking suspicion that Inflatable Armadildo is not what he purports to be ( a Rhinos fan with an interest). He speaks very much like a politician so my guess is that he is is actually a long serving Trin Fan with an history in politics. Dave Hinchcliffe anyone?'"
Nah, he's not.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Did not have you down as the sensitive type
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I just don't like people spreading stuff that's not true about the club, the directors, the fans or anyone associated with it. Call it what you like, I call it honesty.
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| Quote ="cas69"I have a sneeking suspicion that Inflatable Armadildo is not what he purports to be ( a Rhinos fan with an interest). He speaks very much like a politician so my guess is that he is is actually a long serving Trin Fan with an history in politics. Dave Hinchcliffe anyone?'"
Peter Box has come over to the light side!
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| Did you know Inflatable Armadillo is an anagram of "Banal liar told me.. FAIL".
I'm not saying anything, I'm just saying...
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| Quote ="Disco"Did you know Inflatable Armadillo is an anagram of "Banal liar told me.. FAIL".
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I thought everyone knew that already?
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| Quote ="Georgie Best on a Bloomer"I know he doesn't NEED to tell lies, =#FF0000but he's come up with a couple of bits of ill-informed stuff on here that weren't exactly accurate, as well as accusing people of having an agenda that they clearly don't have. However, it doesn't need me to tell you about trolling, does it?
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Ok, once again, please let me know what wasn't 'exactly accurate'? Please use any of my posts to highlight this... you are too much of an intelligent poster I expect though to say the Newmarket call in... so it can't be that... can it?
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| Quote ="Fully"Not frightened at all.
I know people as well and I_A's comment are, let's just say, wide of the mark.'"
Once again Fully, you make a bold statement but that is all... nothing of any substance to back it up. Just that I_A's comments are "wide of the mark". OK, so off you go, tell me what and which of my comments are wide of the mark?
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| Quote ="cas69"I have a sneeking suspicion that Inflatable Armadildo is not what he purports to be ( a Rhinos fan with an interest). He speaks very much like a politician so my guess is that he is is actually a long serving Trin Fan with an history in politics. Dave Hinchcliffe anyone?'"
I met David Hinchcliffe for the first time recently... does that count?
As Fully is fond of saying, you are 'wide of the mark' there I am afraid. I really do support the Rhinos... I have always supported them, even when we were worse than you!!! That said, 1988 was still a good year!
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| Quote ="pyeman"Oh i think he does have an agenda, indeed its very clear that he has one, i know it would suit you to think he hasn't since he has spent =#FF0000the last 18 months telling wakefield fans everything they want to hear regarding both nm and gh (including that nm wouldn't go to pi, which as we all now know was very wrong).
He doesn't need to lie, lots of people don't need to lie but do, or represent half baked rumors as if they were facts, especially on here.
I know you would like to think that ia has us all scared but in reality were all just bored with his tedious trolling.'"
Another poster who should maybe read my post and not just read what people post about me... especially on your other forum!
Did I post that Newmarket =#FF0000wouldn't go to a PI... is that what I actually said? Please go look again at what I actually said! Did I think Newmarket would go to a PI, no I didn't think it would, but was always clear that it could (with it being a statutory referral and all) and yes, I was surprised when it did. However, I was not alone in thinking it wouldn't and Ian Thompson (personally) and his team in WMDC planning didn't think so either. Please call him and ask him if you wish, he has stated this publicly on several occasions but of course you always knew better I expect?
As for GH, what about GH, what did I ever say about GH other than it would sail through it's reserved matters and made some comments on parking issues following Xcaspe objection? You should check out who bothered and wrote to the council supporting the application, it is public record... but of course, I did this as a smoke screen cover to hide my obvious anti-Cas bias of course!
Half-baked rumours!!! Just pointing out the issues you now face and also posting first hand information from people involved in the process. If you think this is plane sailing, unlike GH but very like Newmarket, then you need your bumps feeling.
I post this information because I believe it is vital for your fans to understand the position of both clubs and how downright foolish it would be for the RFL to kick either you are Wakey out at such an important stage. Of course, you do have the advantage of the public perception of being 'in front' and therefore the stuff I have posted recently does I suppose seem negative and pessimistic if you are a Cas fan, but hey, it is what I know, have seen for myself and have been told first hand!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Once again Fully, you make a bold statement but that is all... nothing of any substance to back it up. Just that I_A's comments are "wide of the mark". OK, so off you go, tell me what and which of my comments are wide of the mark?'"
I have my reasons.
Not stating you're wrong in any way - just that I believe you're wide of the mark on some issues. For instance, Opus' position, the fact you think that the club are driving this project when it's clearly Opus, the club are working on the information provided by Opus; the fact that you seem to think the statements provided by RW are spin on this matter (again when the info is coming through Opus).
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Another poster who should maybe read my post and not just read what people post about me... especially on your other forum!
Did I post that Newmarket =#FF0000wouldn't go to a PI... is that what I actually said? Please go look again at what I actually said! Did I think Newmarket would go to a PI, no I didn't think it would, but was always clear that it could (with it being a statutory referral and all) and yes, I was surprised when it did. However, I was not alone in thinking it wouldn't and Ian Thompson (personally) and his team in WMDC planning didn't think so either. Please call him and ask him if you wish, he has stated this publicly on several occasions but of course you always knew better I expect?
As for GH, what about GH, what did I ever say about GH other than it would sail through it's reserved matters and made some comments on parking issues following Xcaspe objection? You should check out who bothered and wrote to the council supporting the application, it is public record... but of course, I did this as a smoke screen cover to hide my obvious anti-Cas bias of course!
Half-baked rumours!!! Just pointing out the issues you now face and also posting first hand information from people involved in the process. If you think this is plane sailing, unlike GH but very like Newmarket, then you need your bumps feeling.
I post this information because I believe it is vital for your fans to understand the position of both clubs and how downright foolish it would be for the RFL to kick either you are Wakey out at such an important stage. Of course, you do have the advantage of the public perception of being 'in front' and therefore the stuff I have posted recently does I suppose seem negative and pessimistic if you are a Cas fan, but hey, it is what I know, have seen for myself and have been told first hand!'"
you predicted (with some confidence as i recall) the nm wouldn't go to pi and it did, is that statement untrue? no it isnt.
And unless you can provide us with a bit more evidence than 'some guy who's name must be kept secret told me that something was said in a meeting that i'm not willing to provide evidence he was at' then i will continue to regard your 'information' as nothing more than a half baked rumour. Just because you keep repeating it that doesn't mean we will all suddenly believe you.
Even if what you say is true do you suddenly think all the cas and wakey fans will unite under one banner and the the rfl will say 'sod crusaders after all cas and wakey fans are asking for each other to both stay in sl' the only thing the rfl might say is 'ok then merge' which would lead to the irreversible destruction of rl's popularity in its greatest nursery if were to ever happen.
All your vital 'information' has achieved is for wakefield fans to feel better as your telling them exactly what they want to here (your even managing to include 'rw's spin' is more and more of your posts) and cas fans reacting with a mixture of scorn, dislike and boredom. Well done.
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| Quote ="Georgie Best on a Bloomer"I just don't like people spreading stuff that's not true about the club, the directors, the fans or anyone associated with it. Call it what you like, I call it honesty.'"
Who is doing that exactly? Are you still banging on about my comment about RW earlier in this thread which I did regret and retract and apologised for?
I am being honest and now you are calling me a liar! So who should apologise now I wonder?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Who is doing that exactly? Are you still banging on about my comment about RW earlier in this thread which I did regret and retract and apologised for?
I am being honest and now you are calling me a liar! So who should apologise now I wonder?'"
Why don't you all just swap email addresses then you can talk drivel to each other as much as you like.
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| Quote ="Fully"I have my reasons.
Not stating you're wrong in any way - just that I believe you're wide of the mark on some issues. For instance, Opus' position, the fact you think that the club are driving this project when it's clearly Opus, the club are working on the information provided by Opus; the fact that you seem to think the statements provided by RW are spin on this matter (again when the info is coming through Opus).'"
Actually Fully, you might be right here and I have seen some information today that leads me to believe, by admittedly reading between some lines a little, that Opus have seen the mutually beneficial advantage of the current situation and time-frame and indeed they are keen to gain maximum advantage for both Cas Tigers and themselves (and fair play to them!). So Fully, I apologise, I think you are probably correct about the example above (just that one mind! ) and stand corrected. This is looking more like Newmarket everyday, (the overall strategy, not the planning issues, which are very different). This is however a possible banana skin and if things didn't go the way Opus want them to, even though I think they ultimatley will, then you could be back to square one. Although to be fair, you all knew that, just as the Wakey fans do in respect of Newmarket as well.
However, the time-frame situation (because the information is the draft pre-dev/design programme, if you haven't guessed) doesn't change and you are going to struggle to start on GH before (or even at the same time) as Wakey could potentially start on Newmarket and if things go the way Opus are contingency planning for, then it could indeed be years with the potential answer still being a no... even though I don't think it will be! But you knew that too didn't you, if you are honest with yourself?
It just makes me believe evermore strongly that the RFL are gambling with two clubs who will, in all probability, get new grounds if given the next three years of security in SL to deliver their plans!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"
It just makes me believe evermore strongly that the RFL are gambling with two clubs who will, in all probability, get new grounds if given the next three years of security in SL to deliver their plans!'"
Why? Can't Wakefield deliver theirs if they are demoted to NL1?
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| Mr I.A - although a new comer to this forum I have watched it for some considerable time with some interest. Just an observation really but apologising is something that you could do a little better. Always seems a lttle half hearted or mitigated by other facts or information you make sure you include to soften that apology. Like I say it's just an observation and to be fair I could apply that observation to other posters not necessarily on this site. Right, now I've said my peace I'll batter down the hatches now and take cover.
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| Quote ="Fully"Why? Can't Wakefield deliver theirs if they are demoted to NL1?'"
Why do you ask? Can't Castleford deliver theirs if they are demoted to NL1?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Why do you ask? Can't Castleford deliver theirs if they are demoted to NL1?'"
Just seemed odd that you implied that both sides need to be in SL to deliver their respective stadiums. So on that basis, if Newmarket can be delivered with Wakefield in the Championship it doesn't matter what iota what division they are in for that aspect?
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| Quote ="Fully"Why? Can't Wakefield deliver theirs if they are demoted to NL1?'"
Could you?
FWIW yes we can. As I imagine you can, as your not paying for yours either.
Opus for you, Yorkcourt for us.
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| Quote ="Fully"Just seemed odd that you implied that both sides need to be in SL to deliver their respective stadiums. So on that basis, if Newmarket can be delivered with Wakefield in the Championship it doesn't matter what iota what division they are in for that aspect?'"
Odd that you questioned me on the fact that I think the best possible chance for both sides is to be in SL to deliver their respective stadiums. So on that basis, if Glasshoughton can be delivered with Castleford in the Championship it doesn't matter what iota what division they are in for that aspect?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Odd that you questioned me on the fact that I think the best possible chance for both sides is to be in SL to deliver their respective stadiums. So on that basis, if Glasshoughton can be delivered with Castleford in the Championship it doesn't matter what iota what division they are in for that aspect?'"
Cas have said it will be delivered no matter what division we're in.
Given we've probably got a stronger application than both Wakefield and Salford (IMO) then I would hope that the RFL do not demote us.
However, you seem to be stating everywhere that SL should be expanded to accommodate Wakefield on the basis of their stadium plans. Why, if they can deliver them in the Championship? And more importantly, why is it of importance as to what division Wakey are in for a Leeds fans such as yourself?
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| It's good for the game.
IA takes an interest because he loves RL, even if it doesn't involve the colours he wears. Pity others can't follow suit.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Ok, once again, please let me know what wasn't 'exactly accurate'? Please use any of my posts to highlight this... you are too much of an intelligent poster I expect though to say the Newmarket call in... so it can't be that... can it?'"
Succinctly, I'm anti-Wakefield
Wakefield have a better on-field record than Cas over the Super League era
Richard Wright will blame other people if Cas don't get a franchise.
All on this thread. All of which you've acknowledged.
Thanks.
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