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| Quote ="Fully"We've beat Widnes once this season already HTH.
And to deny that it wasn't your Cup Final is laughable. You were naturally going to raise your game for it. You get one chance and to beat your local rivals in a major competition and create a Cupset was single-handedly a small mark you wanted to include and put on your next licence application.'"
What a set of patronising piloks, some of us have seen Rovers win the cup and league for that matter so as good as it was trust me a 4th round game against castleford is no cup final
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| Quote ="castigersdave"oh yeah forgot about fev shipping 120 points in games against sheffield and halifax, really a SL side :/ hmmm (last o/t)'"
Still beat you old lad didnt we
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| Quote ="gingdong"What a set of patronising piloks, some of us have seen Rovers win the cup and league for that matter so as good as it was trust me a 4th round game against castleford is no cup final'"
One day soon I hope to be able to exchange views face to face with Mr Gronk I'm sure it will be very interesting. Someone must be able to set that up folks. I'm such an admirer.
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| Quote ="fevbornnbred"One day soon I hope to be able to exchange views face to face with Mr Gronk I'm sure it will be very interesting. Someone must be able to set that up folks. I'm such an admirer.'"
Deary me, you really need to get over your jealousy and obsession with Cas, it's going to make you all poorly if you caary on like this. Need any evidence? Just look on your Total RL forum, every other thread relates to Cas and every single word is bitter.
Back to Cas and I'm confident we will put in a good performance against Wierdness and take the 2 points on offer.
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| =#FF0000This thread is purely for the Cas v Widnes game. Please can people stick to this topic, it is nothing to do with how we have done against Featherstone or how they have played against us. If people haven't got the mental capacity to do this, than the thread will be locked!
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| If we can get back on topic, i'm not to optimistic about our chances on this one, we are down to the bare bones and even when we have been near full strength this season we've often looked like a poor imitation of last years side.
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| It will be even more difficult now that Widnes have signed O'Carroll.
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| Widnes also have several players out injured too.Be a close game, but i think if O Carroll is fit this be a boost for forward power.
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| No Chase again v Widnes
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| Widnes win by 16
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| I think its going to be a close one where either team could just edge it. Chase being out is a massive blow for you, but our defence is pretty shocking and work in progress. Tough one to call.
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| Why does everyone think we'll lose because Chase is missing? Last time we played Widnes on 7th May we had no Chase and won comfortably.
Last time we played Ganson was ref too. He's ref this time.
I believe that we will win. We have the forwards to dominate the game and you are guaranteed at least 4 pens off Pickersgill and Cross alone.
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| We also had Daz Clark and Owen available, monday we wont.
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| Quote ="Towns88"We also had Daz Clark and Owen available, monday we wont.'"
Given Owen's propensity of making errors I think Youngquest can do just an adequate job at FB.
As for Clark, maybe so but I have the confidence that Milner can step up just as well.
Looking at the team - we also didn't have Holmes or Jackson back in the squad then. Our pack is very strong and if they dominate, they can set the platform for Goldy and Orr to work magic.
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| Quote ="Fully"Given errors propensity of making errors I think Youngquest can do just an adequate job at FB.
As for Clark, maybe so but I have the confidence that Milner can step up just as well.
Looking at the team - we also didn't have Holmes or Jackson back in the squad then. Our pack is very strong and if they dominate, they can set the platform for Goldy and Orr to work magic.'"
deluded. At best we'll scrape a 4 point win against the worst side in the league, a team who wouldn't be top 3 in the championship. < That is at best. Still think we'll lose. Milner doesn't offer the same as clark at hooker, in fact, he's completely different, less effective in attack, good in defence.
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| Quote ="Towns88"deluded. At best we'll scrape a 4 point win against the worst side in the league, a team who wouldn't be top 3 in the championship. < That is at best. Still think we'll lose. Milner doesn't offer the same as clark at hooker, in fact, he's completely different, less effective in attack, good in defence.'"
Clarke and Milner are completely different - Milner will play a pattern and a plan and put on the plays the halves tell him to the majority of the time and allow there to be one chef in the kitchen.
Clarke is completely different, on the one hand you have the variety and unpredictability, but on the other hand, your halves will not get the plays they want when they want them, only when he wants - this is more of an issue with younger players that are trying to mke their own names in the game.
Different players for different scenarios and I actually happen to think as a pair, they are brilliant in the 17. For Monday it is actually a day for concentration, game management, set management and completion, not fancy gubbins. First team in front by two scores I fancy to win, that should be enough to dent the armour of the others belief. If Widnes get 12-0 inside 20 minutes, it could stink like my gym bag by half time.
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| Not been keeping an eye on the situation, but is Chase available to play tomorrow night following his (cough) indesgretion or is he "banned for a longer period"?
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| Mdean - They are different , yep, that is exactly what I put
Kinley - still on paid suspension.
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| Ok cheers, not sure wether or not to have a bet, what's the spread?
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| You're so bad even Widnes can stuff you.
It wouldn't really be a suprise if a quality coach like Ian Millward wanted out of your club to go somewhere that can match his ambitions.
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| If we're a mid table Championship side, what does that make you on tonights showing ?
Seriously, we were bad but Cas were terrible. How many Players do you have left from 2007 ?
You looked like you wern't interested tonight, especially in the second half................
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| Quote ="Bomb Jack"If we're a mid table Championship side, what does that make you on tonights showing ?
Seriously, we were bad but Cas were terrible. How many Players do you have left from 2007 ?
You looked like you wern't interested tonight, especially in the second half................'"
We were extremely poor, this is probably the worst season we have had in super league, not to take anything away from widnes you wanted it more and deserved the win, good luck for the rest of the season.
From 2007, we had huby and mcgoldrick playing tonight with owen and dixon on the sidelines.
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| What do you think of that then Fully? (i told you so)
Millward is one of the worst coaches in the game.
Matterson is God in comparison.
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