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| Quote ="bren2k"A tongue in cheek comment on a thread that has little merit other than to provoke exactly that type of response.
It has no bearing on your original dishonest use of part of a quote from an unrelated thread.'"
By gum! Make sure you don't get a nose bleed up there on your horse.
Back on topic - I think either club would be daft not to share a ground until their own was completed.
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| All small minded drivel aside and without any point scoring, I am not into petty rivalries I want to watch my team have the best advantage commercially, facilities and in infrastructure terms, whatever that takes:
If there was a completed stadium within the catchment area I think both clubs would be idiots not to consider it and use that to safeguard their future.
From a business perspective looking at the infrastructure, tourism and sustainability elements, in my mind the Glasshoughton development is a prime site for that development, but that’s my own opinion.
A stadium does not make the club and the fans - in fact the opposite; fans can make a stadium and support and therefore a club.
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| Quote ="bigalf"By gum! Make sure you don't get a nose bleed up there on your horse.
Back on topic - I think either club would be daft not to share a ground until there own was completed.'"
Don't worry, I'm quite comfortable up here on the moral high ground.
Back on topic - you're a wazzock.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Don't worry, I'm quite comfortabe up here on the moral high ground.
Back on topic - you're a wazzock.'"
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| Quote ="bren2k"Don't worry, I'm quite comfortable up here on the moral high ground.
Back on topic - you're a wazzock.'"
Are you Chissits' love child?
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| Quote ="Fully"Depends how you decide if we 'fail'.
[size=200The reality of Cas 'failing' is zero because we still have full PP and still have our own asset to sell. Therefore, whether it is 1 year, 5 years or 10 years, Glasshoughton will be built sooner or later.[/size This is in contrast to Wakefield who are relying on the PI to go their way, which if it doesn't then it's back to the drawing board. I do suspect, however, that should this be the case that a new planning application for the same piece of land will be drawn up but on a smaller scale.
Opus are obviously behind WR 100% and are putting significant cash into the project through their various pre-consultations, reports etc, to fully supplement the Planning application for full PP on Wheldon Rd. They wouldn't do that if they were confident and the unprecendented support (over 22k signatures) just makes the work a whole lot easier. It's harder to argue with public opinion.
Anyway, we'll cross this bridge when it happens but for now there is no reason why both stadia shouldn't be built in both sets of fans' opinions. Let's hope that this is the case then this discussion can finally be put to bed and fans from other club can finally go foxtrot oscar.'"
How do you know it will happen? Not long ago you where taken in hook line and sinker by Dickie Wrights Ben bailey angle. You refused to accept that the value of WR was considerably below the cost of building a new stadium (like I said all along). The whole Opus thing is obviously still in its infancy until the planning permission goes in (if it ever does) all your doing is speculating. It’s all wishful thinking and nothing factual has happened till that PP goes in. The truth is that nobody really has a clue what is going on behind the scenes. The whole Ben baileys fiasco took you all by surprise; I feel a few twists and turns will come with this Opus thing.
Wishful thinking will not get you your new ground.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Wishful thinking will not get you your new ground.'"
Nor will it stop us getting it!
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| Quote ="pyeman"[size=150Would you come to watch trinity play at gh kinleycat out of interest?[/size
No brainer for me if we share a nm the club will either be merged, dead or playing in championship 1 within 5 years. I think we will take outr own chances thanks. Good luck with newmarket.'"
It's not the same it though Pyeman! I'd rather us be playing right in Wakefield, Durker/Thornes Park but that wasn't to be. Now we have to compromise and move practically outside of town to edge of Stanley. The distance between Wakefield centre and Cas centre to Newmarket is near equal. If we have to share at any the only fair answer would be Newmarket, it would involve both teams moving a distance from their supporter base but that called compromise. Sharing at Glasshoughton would only benefit Cas Tigers, Newmarket would be a fair compromise.
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| Quote ="deeHell"How do you know it will happen? '"
Because we have an asset to sell to part or full fund it.
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| Quote ="matt_casfan"Are you Chissits' love child?
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Are you're suggesting that Chissit is capable of mitosis, or do you have another party in mind for your depraved theory?
Either way, I'm as certain as I can be that Chissit played no part in my conception.
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| As its turned into an appendage proportionality competition, something Mrs KC says i will never win so i'll bow out.
66% against, to be honest i thought it would be higher.
Good luck, hope none of us have to rely on this scenario, but im sure there are many bridgge for lots of water to go under.
Cheers.
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| Only 13% against on our page, which im cheerfully surprised about.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"As its turned into an appendage proportionality competition, something Mrs KC says i will never win
so i'll bow out.
66% against, to be honest i thought it would be higher.
Good luck, hope none of us have to rely on this scenario, but im sure there are many bridgge for lots of water to go under.
Cheers.
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It would be interesting if you try the same poll questions on both boards with the opposite scenario -
"Castleford are on with GH and NM isn't looking like happening"
See what results you get then
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| I think i answered you (now on numerous occasions on both boards), the differences are IMO enough to skew the results.
Do it from your POV, i'll certainly take part.
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| So as this thread is supposed to be hypothetical what about another scenario that maybe not many people have thought about.
The town of Castleford could come under the district of Selby if it were to move away from WDC. There as already been talk of the boundaries moving towards the north yorkshire direction. Therefore Tigers (not been part of the Wakefield district) would not be able to accept this mythical ground sharing option at Newmarket.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"So as this thread is supposed to be hypothetical what about another scenario that maybe not many people have thought about.
The town of Castleford could come under the district of Selby if it were to move away from WDC. There as already been talk of the boundaries moving towards the north yorkshire direction. Therefore Tigers (not been part of the Wakefield district) would not be able to accept this mythical ground sharing option at Newmarket.'"
O/T I know but the boundary changes your talking about (if they are approved) are for MP only, the local council responsibility for Cas would still lie with WMDC.
Personally I wouldn't want to share as imo it brings us one step closer to what I and a lot of others fought against with fans from the other two clubs across the district. As soon as we start sharing the RFL will be doing nothing but spouting the 'M' word, trying to cajole the two clubs to become one.
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| Quote ="Junglefever"O/T I know but the boundary changes your talking about (if they are approved) are for MP only, the local council responsibility for Cas would still lie with WMDC.
Personally I wouldn't want to share as imo it brings us one step closer to what I and a lot of others fought against with fans from the other two clubs across the district. As soon as we start sharing the RFL will be doing nothing but spouting the 'M' word, trying to cajole the two clubs to become one.'"
I think you are right Junglefever, if we ever decided to share a stadium, that is what the RFL would want.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"The town of Castleford could come under the district of Selby if it were to move away from WDC.'"
Are you planning on moving it by yourself, or do you have some helpers?
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| Would you ground share? No way, why ask? When will it sink in? We want nothing to do with you on any terms. Simples.
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| The BOD at Tigers know how unpopular a move to Newmarket would be with the fans - even if only for a season. I personally think if we were to groundshare until the stadium at Glasshoughton was built we would go to Doncaster or even a re-vamped Post Office Road. All this tripe about "NM is nearly an equal distance between Wakey and Castleford" will not wash with the Tigers faithful - our BOD know that.
I get the feeling from some people involved at WTW that the club are desparate for a co-tennant even as far as to say without one there will be no new stadium at Newmarket.
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| Quote ="Junglefever"O/T I know but the boundary changes your talking about (if they are approved) are for MP only, the local council responsibility for Cas would still lie with WMDC.
Personally I wouldn't want to share as imo it brings us one step closer to what I and a lot of others fought against with fans from the other two clubs across the district. As soon as we start sharing the will be doing nothing but spouting the 'M' word, trying to cajole the two clubs to become one.'"
Think you are right about the boundary changes, shame really i think most of the people of cas would jump at the chance to be part of selby council district instead of wakey.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"The BOD at Tigers know how unpopular a move to Newmarket would be with the fans - even if only for a season. I personally think if we were to groundshare until the stadium at Glasshoughton was built we would go to Doncaster or even a re-vamped Post Office Road. All this tripe about "NM is nearly an equal distance between Wakey and Castleford" will not wash with the Tigers faithful - our BOD know that.
I get the feeling from some people involved at WTW that the club are desparate for a co-tennant even as far as to say without one there will be no new stadium at Newmarket.'"
I think in part, you've hit the nail on the head, perceived popularity!
But lets just say (hypotheticaly) that a problem arose with GH, affecting the short term. Not long enough to worry cas, but long enough to worry the RFL.
Would cas (the fans or the club) prefer to travel further rather than IF NM is built, go there?
I agree long term, the paranoid Kinleycat, would be expecting the M word to come from on high the RFL, so i wouldn't, nor would i expect anyone at WTW to support such a long term move.
On the other hand, it would benefit financially both clubs and sets of supporters, and i do believe (and if i'm honest i thought that ground share,was the original idea when NM was first mooted) it is a very sensible project in a very sensible area.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I think in part, you've hit the nail on the head, perceived popularity!
But lets just say (hypotheticaly) that a problem arose with GH, affecting the short term. Not long enough to worry cas, but long enough to worry the .
Would cas (the fans or the club) prefer to travel further rather than IF NM is built, go there?
I agree long term, the paranoid Kinleycat, would be expecting the M word to come from on high the RFL, so i wouldn't, nor would i expect anyone at WTW to support such a long term move.
On the other hand, it would benefit financially both clubs and sets of supporters, and i do believe (and if i'm honest i thought that ground share,was the original idea when NM was first mooted) it is a very sensible project in a very sensible area.'"
If cas fans had to travel most i'm sure would prefer doncaster, never heard a cas fan have a bad word to say about the ground and if every 'home' game becomes an away one we might as well go to a ground we all like. Wouldnt bother with newmarket doubt i could be bothered to spend the money traveling to every 'home' game if we had to go there, anyway as mentioned the cas bod know moving there, even for a season is a licence to lose money, how many rl teams have moved to a ground outside there home town and not decreased there support? I know you dont have any choice about where you have to move to but even for yourselves i can see you getting thousands less at newmarket than you would at a new stadium actually inside wakefield. Also who would financially benefit from cas sharing at new market? not cas obviously we lose money from matchday revenue and have to pay rent, who would get that rent money and what would they do with it. Sorry KC but you've got yourself a complete and utter non starter here.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Which proves that your original out of context mis-quote was, at best, an act of childish mischief designed to play to the gallery, or at worst, a dishonest attempt to highlight a point that I never made in the first place.
Totally wrong pussy, the only act of childish mischief is the original post, the scroungers should not even be in Superleague and as for belle vue or whatever you lot call it now, wheres the promised improvements ?????
Glasshoughton will be built and then your lot will be around with the collection buckets again, havent you noticed, Yorkcourt have gone all quiet about the stadium part of the scheme ??????
Castleford will never share with the unwashed from over the common .............. simples
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| Quote ="deeHell"How do you know it will happen? Not long ago you where taken in hook line and sinker by Dickie Wrights Ben bailey angle. You refused to accept that the value of WR was considerably below the cost of building a new stadium (like I said all along). The whole Opus thing is obviously still in its infancy until the planning permission goes in (if it ever does) all your doing is speculating. It’s all wishful thinking and nothing factual has happened till that PP goes in. The truth is that nobody really has a clue what is going on behind the scenes. The whole Ben baileys fiasco took you all by surprise; I feel a few twists and turns will come with this Opus thing.
Wishful thinking will not get you your new ground.'"
And scrounging will not get you yours ............................
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