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| I was told on Friday night that Andy Hay had been brought in last week to answer questions on why Gledhill had been allowed to leave the club. Pure speculation of course, but I suspect there are a fair few fans who would like to hear the answers to such questions too.
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| Simple reason. Not enough money or prospects offered. The lad belived in his abilities far more than the pwers that be. Apparently they were suprised when the offer was rejected but never made an attempt to up it. Little did they know Leeds and Wakey had made offers with a couple of others making enquiries. I suppose with never playing super league they did not want risk offering more. Playing 21's though surely you come accross super league players week in week out.
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| Did Lee Mossop also used to play for us? He's just signed a new contract for Wigan after rejecting the Canterbury Bulldogs ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="casman2"Did Lee Mossop also used to play for us? He's just signed a new contract for Wigan after rejecting the Canterbury Bulldogs
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No, that was Jason Mossop.
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| Quote ="Fully"No, that was Jason Mossop.'"
I knew it was someone Mossop ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="eric"Simple reason. Not enough money or prospects offered. The lad belived in his abilities far more than the pwers that be. Apparently they were suprised when the offer was rejected but never made an attempt to up it. Little did they know Leeds and Wakey had made offers with a couple of others making enquiries. I suppose with never playing super league they did not want risk offering more. Playing 21's though surely you come accross super league players week in week out.'"
This is all true, but before Cas fans beat themselves up to much it needs pointing out that Gledhill was at Wakey before he joined Cas at 16. So he never was a total creation of the Cas club.
As has been mentioned there is a lot of movement between the two clubs for obvious reasons.
Also Wakey and Cas take on junior players differently. Wakey don't pay big money to 16 year olds where as Cas do. Cas get the cream of players at that age however it's a risk. If a glut of them make it then clubs like Wakey are in a better position as Cas can't afford to keep them all.
You could say Wakey are lazy or shrewd but it's just a different approach. At the end of the day Wakey won't go into a bidding war with Cas for an unproven player who may never make it or who they will probably pick up later anyway. The flip side is that Wakey do have a lot of 20+ players in the squad all on similar and fair pay rates and all have a better chance to make it.
Both ways have there merits and both work, just looks more spectacular when Castlefords method fails.
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| Quote ="vastman"This is all true, but before Cas fans beat themselves up to much it needs pointing out that Gledhill was at Wakey before he joined Cas at 16. So he never was a total creation of the Cas club.
As has been mentioned there is a lot of movement between the two clubs for obvious reasons.
Also Wakey and Cas take on junior players differently. Wakey don't pay big money to 16 year olds where as Cas do. Cas get the cream of players at that age however it's a risk. If a glut of them make it then clubs like Wakey are in a better position as Cas can't afford to keep them all.
You could say Wakey are lazy or shrewd but it's just a different approach. At the end of the day Wakey won't go into a bidding war with Cas for an unproven player who may never make it or who they will probably pick up later anyway. The flip side is that Wakey do have a lot of 20+ players in the squad all on similar and fair pay rates and all have a better chance to make it.
Both ways have there merits and both work, just looks more spectacular when Castlefords method fails.'"
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You are Blazing Saddles 'Ditto' Sheriff and I claim my fiver!
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| played today in U20 and got creamed by Jonny Walker no great loss IMO
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| Quote ="hazzard"played today in U20 and got creamed by Jonny Walker no great loss IMO'"
Yep and 3 weeks ago he creamed Clint Newton, it was a good hit though and i think he felt it.
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| Quote ="hazzard"played today in U20 and got creamed by Jonny Walker no great loss IMO'"
Oh well that's it then career over, Jonny Walker makes Clint Newton look like a fairy. You're right no great loss, please send anymore "no great losses" our way - thank you.
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| One big hit does make a player. Two drives a set, three tackles a set and a try make a good player. How did Jonny play other than that hit then?
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| Quote ="eric"One big hit does =#FF0000NOT make a player. Two drives a set, three tackles a set and a try make a good player. How did Jonny play other than that hit then?'"
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| =#8040FFWalker big hits EVERYONE though
remember when he put Stosic on his backside last year? and the Burgess twins in boxing day this year? the lad is a MONSTER and should be in the first team.
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| If he's that good why isn't he in the first team?
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| Quote ="lad13"If he's that good why isn't he in the first team?'"
=#8000FFBecause Matterson is a complete and utter idiot and refuses to play the kids even though they're on form and playing better then Sargent & Higgins.
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| The 'big hit' was quite some way from where I was standing but it certainly caused Gledhill to leave the field for a short while. It looked like a three man shot but if it was your man Walker then it was a good un.
However if this Walker kid is any good surely TM is not that dumb and stubourn to at least try him for a game or two from the bench.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"
TM is not that dumb and stubourn to at least try him for a game or two from the bench.'"
Oh but he is.
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| Quote ="poppys mum"Oh but he is.'"
=#8000FFSummed up 9 letters
You have to remember Buster that this is the same coach who dropped one of his own under 20's players after doing nothing wrong in France v Catalan in favour of a Wigan u20's player.
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| If this kid is a good as you say he is think Matterson would be wise to give him a chance as JK will be watching with interest no doubt.
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| WALKER knocks over Glehill - a new Westerman is born and the Cas over hype begins - some on here never ever learn ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="vastman"WALKER knocks over Glehill - a new Westerman is born and the Cas over hype begins - some on here never ever learn
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You know, you'd been posting some sensible stuff recently, then you go and spoil it
A couple of digs back from cas fans to wakey fans doesn't get anywhere overhype does it now? ![Shoot Poster a026.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a026.gif)
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| Quote ="vastman"WALKER knocks over Glehill - a new Westerman is born and the Cas over hype begins - some on here never ever learn
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=#8000FFI do hope your Mum/Dad/Carer/Nurse (delete as appropriate) come back soon
FACTS such as he put Stosic, Gledhill & the Burgess twins on their backsides plus an assessment of his build calling him a "monster" all of a sudden makes him over hyped? you really do need help you pathetic hovel dwelling troll.
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| Playing the role of prop is not just about 1 big hit per game. The lad has to make yards, bend his back and tackle etc. Jonny is a really good player and really does need blodding in the first team to see how he fairs. Come on TM, give JK a ring and ask him what to do to promote youngsters and what to do if the big names don't perform for their big money.
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