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| Quote ="bigalf"You don't get it cas69 because it is not there, even if they sold/let all the Units tomorrow. I fear thet even if the LDF and the PI goes Wakey's way (50/50 IMHO) then they may be in exactly the same position as Cas are now.'"
Nah, you're wrong mate.
Everyone associated with WTWRLFC and especially G.Price's Fan Club are 100% sure that the funding is in place so I'm convinced.
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| Another thread derailed by the desperation of a couple of idiots who think that if they wish for WTW to fail, they will.
No wonder nobody posts here any more - one can't have a reasonable discussion without the trolls taking over.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Another thread derailed by the desperation of a couple of idiots who think that if they wish for WTW to fail, they will.
No wonder nobody posts here any more - one can't have a reasonable discussion without the trolls taking over.'"
Definition of irony. Never mind.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Another thread derailed by the desperation of a couple of idiots who think that if they wish for WTW to fail, they will.
No wonder nobody posts here any more - one can't have a reasonable discussion without the trolls taking over.'"
"My experience and =#FF0000expertise tells me that I will be able to procure support for the funding of the stadium and operational costs in a number of ways. =#FF0000I will seek grant funding support from avariety of sources via local government, local organisations and communities, local and national charities, regional, national and European funding schemes. TheCouncil is contributing £2m to the Trust which would be paid by the Trust toYorkcourt towards the construction costs of the stadium. =#FF0000The Trust will also seek to secure other funding support from the Sports Lottery Fund and the Football Trust"
Yeah! all the funding is in place.
You know who's words they are
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| Quote ="Fully"Definition of irony. Never mind.'"
I don't think he's actually realised when he posts the thread dies completely or there's a spate of off-topic posts all caused by him.
I suggest ignore listing him, it makes this place much better to read (especially when there's Chissit, Deehell etc on it too).
Quote "My experience and expertise tells me that I will be able to procure support for the funding of the stadium and operational costs in a number of ways. I will seek grant funding support from avariety of sources via local government, local organisations and communities, local and national charities, regional, national and European funding schemes. TheCouncil is contributing £2m to the Trust which would be paid by the Trust toYorkcourt towards the construction costs of the stadium. The Trust will also seek to secure other funding support from the Sports Lottery Fund and the Football Trust"
Yeah! all the funding is in place.
You know who's words they are'"
Now now, stop letting facts get in the way of a good rant!
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| Quote ="Gronk!"I don't think he's actually realised when he posts the thread dies completely or there's a spate of off-topic posts all caused by him.'"
There you go again; you're obsessed with me and I'm beginning to find it rather sinister.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Now now, stop letting facts get in the way of a good rant!'"
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| Big Alf what is your comment regarding York Courts letter handed in at the PI confirming the stadium build is fully funded, given your assertion that it wasn't? Is Colin Mackie a liar?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Big Alf what is your comment regarding York Courts letter handed in at the PI confirming the stadium build is fully funded, given your assertion that it wasn't? Is Colin Mackie a liar?'"
Post or PM a copy and I will comment.
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| And Wakey fans say that Cas fans are naive and being led by the nose by RW. On the basis of someone writing a letter saying the funding is in place they are all convinced it is. I will ask the question again what is the makeup of the funding to provide this £12/16m facility.
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| Quote ="cas69"And Wakey fans say that Cas fans are naive and being led by the nose by RW. On the basis of someone writing a letter saying the funding is in place they are all convinced it is. I will ask the question again what is the makeup of the funding to provide this £12/16m facility.'"
A bit different, York Court to my knowledge dont have a long history in failing to deliver on their promises unlike RW.
Whilst I have obviously not seen a copy of the letter, I would imagine there was more substance to it, then just we confirm the stadium is fully funded (I also understand it confirmed the stadium would be built before any units as well)
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| Quote ="bigalf"Post or PM a copy and I will comment.'"
Ain't got a copy, suspect it might go up on the planning portal at some stage. I was just asking your view as you seem to have some knowledge of the planning process and construction and wanted an alternative view as to whether this changed your opinion on the question mark you had over the funding.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Whilst I have obviously not seen a copy of the letter, I would imagine '"
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Ain't got a copy, suspect it might go up on the planning portal at some stage. I was just asking your view as you seem to have some knowledge of the planning process and construction and wanted an alternative view as to whether this changed your opinion on the question mark you had over the funding.'"
All I have seen is the submitted written "evidence statements" which seem to confirm the opposite. Come back when you have a copy.
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| Quote ="bigalf"icon_biggrin.gifRUMMER:
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Pity. You appear to have some knowledge of the process and I asked you genuinely for your view, but you decide to pick up on the way my post was phrased to take the pee.
Perhaps you can provide a reasoned response as to why you think the letter is not that important or wait until it is in the public domain and give your view then?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Pity. You appear to have some knowledge of the process and I asked you genuinely for your view, but you decide to pick up on the way my post was phrased to take the pee.
Perhaps you can provide a reasoned response as to why you think the letter is not that important or wait until it is in the public domain and give your view then?'"
How can I comment on something I have not seen?
Do I believe that at this moment (Now) the NM Stadium is fully funded? then No I don't - just as I would say at this moment in time GH is not fully funded, although some people would say it is (Subject to the sale of WR).
According to written evidence of the person who was speaking today (J Francis?) the projected Profit from the whole development will be £9,576,143. before any thing is taken by Yorkcourt. Will that fund a Stadium?
And I repeat Sir Rod:-
"My experience and =#FF0000expertise tells me that I will be able to procure support for the funding of the stadium and operational costs in a number of ways. =#FF0000I will seek grant funding support from avariety of sources via local government, local organisations and communities, local and national charities, regional, national and European funding schemes. TheCouncil is contributing £2m to the Trust which would be paid by the Trust toYorkcourt towards the construction costs of the stadium. =#FF0000The Trust will also seek to secure other funding support from the Sports Lottery Fund and the Football Trust"
So, is all the funding is in place?
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| Quote ="bigalf"How can I comment on something I have not seen?
Do I believe that at this moment (Now) the NM Stadium is fully funded? then No I don't - just as I would say at this moment in time GH is not fully funded, although some people would say it is (Subject to the sale of WR).'"
So every comment you make is based on full sight of all information beforehand? Whilst the actual contents of the letter are not known to you or I, I have told you the gist of what was said and your comment above tells me that you don't believe the crux of what York Court have committed to writing. Time will tell if your right or not.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309" Time will tell if your right or not.'"
Agreed! But do you know - right or wrong, I won't lose a minute of sleep.
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| The Clans version of Fully Funded:-
"Cat is out of the Bag"!
Quote ="The Clan"The funding from YCP is enough to build a stadium of the correct size and quality to satisfy the RFL criteria for a Grade A rating, but no more!
The funding brought in from grants etc will allow the stadium be built with extra facilities contained within the stands.
Without grant funding we can build 3 box standard stands with little more than toilets and food outlets accompanied by a main stand with hospitality, changing rooms etc.
With grant funding we can build a significantly better facility which has amenities, office space, gymnasiums ECT ECT ECT within all of the 4 stands. If Wakefield Stadium Trust are really successful in securing all the funding available there's a suggestion that the corners could be filled in.
There's also grant applications for further sporting facilities that will rest outside the stadium such as a full sized indoor pitch, 5-aside pitches, hockey pitch, 2nd Rugby pitch with its own dressing rooms and so on.
When YCP say they guarantee a fully funded stadium they mean the basic box standard stadium, when Sir Rodney Walker says we will also need Grants, he's talking about a stadium with bells, whistles, and a feathery balloon attached!
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| Quote ="bigalf"The Clans version of Fully Funded:-
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Yes saw that makes sense in a way, figures stack up more
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| Quote ="bigalf"The Clans version of Fully Funded:-
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Yes but that is without any grants whatsoever. There is high confidence that a large amount of funding can be sourced, but until there are concrete plans, i.e. full PP, applications cannot formally be made. But don't think for a minute talks with people in high places haven't already happened.
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| Quote ="bigalf"The Clans version of Fully Funded:-
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It makes perfect sense doesn't it?
Given Sir Rodder's track record of delivering stadia, I wouldn't be too worried that if the PI goes the right way and with YC's 106 agreement in place to fund the build as per the detail Clan has provided, that a significant amount of grant funding could be attracted to finish the job. I also have it on good authority that a very large organisation has taken an option for naming rights on the stadium if it materialises, so that will be another bonus.
All the jigsaw pieces are on the table - just need Fat Eric to give us the nod and they can begin to be put together.
Alternatively, LCC will win the day and WTW will go down the ter.
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| Quote ="bigalf"The Clans version of Fully Funded:-
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Something to clutch at on them dark nights Alfie!
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| Quote ="pyeman"Like most neutral fans who make similar comments you don't seem to understand where the funding is coming from, the council aren't funding either n(=#FF0000if we had the same level of assistance that fax, =#FF4000leigh, widnes, fc, donny etc had got from there councils at least one team would already have a new ground) so there is no council money to run out. And yes your right if either team doesn't get a new stadium there in big trouble, especially wakefield as they don't own bv and would struggle to pay the rent in the lower leagues which is why why the these new stadiums are vital, welcome to the wonderful world of franchising.'"
The council did NOT fund the LSV , It was grants and private investment , the council agreed to underwrite the project , but didn't need to contribute any cash
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