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| Quote ="Irregs #16"But......
Would you do the same if it was Mcgoldrick or Sherwin or shenton?
With it being a reserve it does make it easier to reach this conclusion'"
Although possibly not of the same ferocity , Matt Calland is still in a job at Halifax after a conviction for an assault.
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| I have just watched that video, it turn my stomach sick.
Drink or no drink there is no doubt these 2 men should have been jailed.
I'm disgusted with british justice.
I just hope the lad recovered and had no long term damage.
That was disgusting.
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| Got to agree with you guys That CCTV footage is fully disgusting 2 on 1 the other club [ushould [/udo the right thing
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| Quote ="jourdmart"Watching that CCTV footage is frightening. Pair of cowardly thugs. He's lucky not to be in jail and there's no way he should still have a job.'"
Should of been sent down for that . Well done Cas .
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| Glad we didn't try and get him now at the start of the season, i know we have had our fair share of trouble makers but that is absolutely cowardly and sickenining and he doesn't deserve to be a player in our respected rugby family IMO. He isn't fit enough to be a role model infront of people who look upto him, young prospects and rugby players alike.
Feel free to tell me im going over the top but am i? This week should of opened peoples eyes not only with Cokayne but also Pryce and Reardon. Also which i find sad is for is cowardly act, a young talent as now had is contract rightly ripped to shreds!
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| Fully agree with Castlefords decision to terminate his contract, it was a sickening attack and will serve him right if he never get a chance to progress his career.
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| Quote ="WHELDON-ROAD-END"Glad we didn't try and get him now at the start of the season, i know we have had our fair share of trouble makers but that is absolutely cowardly and sickenining and he doesn't deserve to be a player in our respected rugby family IMO. He isn't fit enough to be a role model infront of people who look upto him, young prospects and rugby players alike.
Feel free to tell me im going over the top but am i? This week should of opened peoples eyes not only with Cokayne but also Pryce and Reardon. Also which i find sad is for is cowardly act, a young talent as now had is contract rightly ripped to shreds!
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Last weekend the Independent did a piece having a go at Rugby League for allowing a player (Pryce) who had just admitted an assault charge and been warned by the jduge he faced a custodial sentence to continue to play pending sentencing.
At first I thought it was another example of the national press only paying attention to rugby league when it's to stick the boot in, but on reflection I think the writer had a point. If any top footballer was in the same circumstances would there not be an outcry if he was allowed to play - I think there would!
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| Quote ="Cecil B" would there not be an outcry if he was allowed to play - I think there would!'"
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| Quote ="Cecil B"Last weekend the Independent did a piece having a go at Rugby League for allowing a player (Pryce) who had just admitted an assault charge and been warned by the jduge he faced a custodial sentence to continue to play pending sentencing.
At first I thought it was another example of the national press only paying attention to rugby league when it's to stick the boot in, but on reflection I think the writer had a point. If any top footballer was in the same circumstances would there not be an outcry if he was allowed to play - I think there would!'"
Not on the available evidence, no.
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| Just out of interest (i know quite a bit about this case) does anyone know why the fight broke out with Ben, Steve and Kiel?
I'm not trying to stick up for them and i, in no way, condone what they did. However they were (albeit WAY over the top) doing the right thing
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| Knocking f*ck out of someone who's already unconscious can never be called 'the right thing', no matter what the circumstances. Whatever they believed their victim might have 'deserved' or 'had coming', we have a legal framework in this country which must be adhered to.
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| Quote ="Disco"Knocking f*ck out of someone who's already unconscious can never be called 'the right thing', no matter what the circumstances. Whatever they believed their victim might have 'deserved' or 'had coming', we have a legal framework in this country which must be adhered to.'"
Like i said, i don't condone what they did, but i fully agree with them stepping in. Even though i fully disagree with the extent they did it
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| Quote ="casman2"Like i said, i don't condone what they did, but i fully agree with them stepping in. Even though i fully disagree with the extent they did it'"
With respect: you might- an objective court hearing which heard all the evidence, including their explanation of what they did and why, disagreed.
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| Considering your club have taken this stance (even if it is right thing to do) then why did they agree terms with Cockayne last season before Rovers upped their offer
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| Quote ="General Zod."Considering your club have taken this stance (even if it is right thing to do) then why did they agree terms with Cockayne last season before Rovers upped their offer
'" possibly because certain evidence hadnt come to light at that time? Who knows?
All i will say is we are all human and all will(including myself) happily sit on our pedestals and pass judgement on events such as these.
what happened that night certainly was wrong and by no means am i condoning what happened but it hasnt suprised me in the slightest that the two escaped prison.i have known much worse situations where people have also escaped prison.
as a rugby fan i would much rather concentrate on the sport.i know incidents like these at times tarnish our sport but it happens and not just to our sport but in all sports and all aspects of life.
the clubs will know more information than we do and we should trust them to make the right decision on the matter.and who knows the people involved in this incident might learn from this and be better people for it.
prison is about rehabilitation not punishment so if rehab can happen without prison then so bit it.if the clubs are gonna help the players from making the same mistakes in future then i for one wont be calling for them to be sacked.
cas have sacked the young lad so i trust they have made the right decision if hull dont sack there player then i presume strict guidelines have been placed on him to monitor his behaviour in the future.
the issue has been dealt on a legal front which is most important.
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| Quote ="casman2"Although i know him quite well and a few years ago he was a good friend
I fully applaud Cas for how they have handled this
Also, although knowing Ben quite well too i would hope that HKR/RFL take the same action'"
Blimey, I hope you are choosing your mates more carefully these days.
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| Quote ="Disco"Knocking f*ck out of someone who's already unconscious can never be called 'the right thing', no matter what the circumstances. Whatever they believed their victim might have 'deserved' or 'had coming', we have a legal framework in this country which must be adhered to.'"
Having just watched the video. I have to say the lad getting the kicking, sure as hell doesn't look unconscious at any time during the attack.
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| Quote ="guess who"Having just watched the video. I have to say the lad getting the kicking, sure as hell doesn't look unconscious at any time during the attack.'"
The video I have seen agrees with you but it matters not. What a complete coward - he even tried to have a go at the innocent bloke at the end. How on earth did he avoid prison. Here was a chance for the courts to show an example- lets face it,they can't be often given cctv coverage - and the judge bottled it.
Cockayne - what a complete coward. Hull KR should get rid asap. Its the only and right thing to do.
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| am sure the judge didnt bottle it.i think the problem will be is that the judge in question probably deals with hundreds of cases identical to this every year and a precedent has probably been set that this offence warrants a years suspended sentence.its would have been up to the prosecution to convince a jury that they deserved a higher more severe sentence.
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| Quote ="guess who"
I have to say the lad getting the kicking, sure as hell doesn't look unconscious at any time during the attack.'"
Shear luck, one kick in the right place and it would have been a murder charge.
Conscious or not what right as this animal got using another human being as a punch bag.
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| Quote ="deeman forever Cas"What do you have to do to get sent down nowadays ?
Community service
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bailey and walker got sent down for far less than what ben did in that video imo,i'll also bet that a repeat offender, that also plays in super league will also get off lightly in the not too distant future,who says that kids need role models anyway to look upto?icon_wink.gif
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| Quote ="Irregs #16"Rovers will not do the same thing'"
i don't think that HKR will get rid of ben either as they know perfectly well that another super league side would give him a second chance!
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| it will be interesting next week and also when other two are dealt with
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| Quote ="Fully"Gerrard?'"
Was he found guilty?
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| Quote ="Speedy"it will be interesting next week and also when other two are dealt with
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