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| Quote ="Disco"I'll decline to comment on what I think Richard Wright's thinking, but any groundshare is bound to be taken by fans as Step 1 towards a merger. I could be wrong but given the choice:
a) Watch (what would inevitably become) Wakeford Trinity Tigers playing in Super League, or
b) Watch Castleford RL play in the Championship
... I'm pretty sure most Cas fans would prefer 'b' to 'a'. With that in mind, Wright must know that if he's forced into moving over to (eg) Stanley, he'd by and large be moving a dead duck.
However I'm still not at all sure it will come to that. It seems to me that Walker could be 'putting out feelers' - perhaps because he knows he can't deliver Stanley on his own? I don't take League Express, but I've not seen or read anything to suggest that Cas are diverting their energies away from Glasshoughton just yet.
As I said, if Wakey are dependant on a share with Cas to get their new ground then that's their problem and theirs alone. Still, nice try though...
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If the clubs did merge, I would stop going. Would be crap!
As for the ground, Wakey would be able to go alone and don't need Cas. I believe it would be a bigger benefit to have a ground each but hey that's just me.
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| Personally I don't see merger at all - I think that is a huge leap. What I do see is a development that clearly has legs and one that seems to be getting a warm reception from all concerned at the top end.
Truth is two stadiums within 3 miles of each other in the current economic climate would be very hard to justify, especially one that sits almost exactly between the two conurbations.
Further to this it's worth noting that the Stanley development is on what is now very cheap land. Whilst the Glasshoughton site is now well advanced and doesn't really need a stadium as a piece. I'd imagine the land value at Glasshoughton is currently far higher making that stadium a more expensive option. Added to that the Glasshoughton site only seems to have space for a stadium rather than a full blown sports village, I may be wrong there but that's how it looks to me.
For my money a shared Stadium must look very plausible to a lot of movers and shakers who think with their heads rather than fans who think with their hearts.
I'm not a developer but to me it's starting to look like a real attractive possibily from their angle.
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| Completeley agree with you vasty (never thought id say that lol) the only thing thats not ringin true is the 12000 bit if it was to be shared surely they could stretch to 16000 this way it could be a gig venue serving all west yorkshire to pay the bills , gets my vote !!
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| Quote ="binks"Completeley agree with you vasty (never thought id say that lol) the only thing thats not ringin true is the 12000 bit if it was to be shared surely they could stretch to 16000 this way it could be a gig venue serving all west yorkshire to pay the bills , gets my vote !!'"
I think that figure would be more likely for a shared venue, of that I have no doubt.
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| Quote ="chissitt"That is a suprise you usually have a lot to say about nothing
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| How do Cas fans feel about this, i know if it where the other way and we where sharing at Glasshoughton i certainly would not be keen on the idea?
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| Quote ="Barry Clegg 2nd"How do Cas fans feel about this, i know if it where the other way and we where sharing at Glasshoughton i certainly would not be keen on the idea?'"
Considering there's an announcement coming this week, I think it would be silly discussing and entertaining such an idea.
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| Quote ="Fully"Considering there's an announcement coming this week, I think it would be silly discussing and entertaining such an idea.'"
Will it be same old?
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| Quote ="adam9641"Will it be same old?'"
Not according to our leader. He said that we "are making progress."
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| Quote ="Fully"Not according to our leader. He said that we "are making progress."'"
Does he not say that all the time and then you seem to get no further
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| Quote ="adam9641"Does he not say that all the time and then you seem to get no further'"
Yes, but he has to realise that there is no time for empty statements now. The fans demand, and we need to see real action.
If Glasshoughton doesn't happen, we'll have to go ahead with Plan B which is turning The Jungle around.
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| Quote ="Fully"Yes, but he has to realise that there is no time for empty statements now. The fans demand, and we need to see real action.
=redIf Glasshoughton doesn't happen, we'll have to go ahead with Plan B which is turning The Jungle around.'" is that feasible, I know there is room to turn it
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| Quote ="snowie"is that feasible, I know there is room to turn it'"
knocking the main stand down and turning the field around has been spoke about for years and im sure was the original plan before a new stadium got brought up,where we would play while the work was done is anyones guess.
but thats a last resort, i still believe glass houghton will be delivered if not now then when the economic climate changes and picks up.
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| Am I missing something here? Wakefield announce "plans" for a stadium and all of a sudden everyone is talking about us sharing a ground with them? No feasibility study, no outline planning permission, no proof of funding, not even a design of what the stadium will look like!
Lets just wait until Cas make an announcement about our stadium. I know no more than anybody else on here, but unlike Vastman I am not going to guess about what Cas have or haven't done. He spends so much time talking about Cas, I'm sure he's a secret Tigers fan!!!
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| Quote ="Tigerfeet"Am I missing something here? Wakefield announce "plans" for a stadium and all of a sudden everyone is talking about us sharing a ground with them? No feasibility study, no outline planning permission, no proof of funding, not even a design of what the stadium will look like!
Lets just wait until Cas make an announcement about our stadium. I know no more than anybody else on here, but unlike Vastman I am not going to guess about what Cas have or haven't done. He spends so much time talking about Cas, I'm sure he's a secret Tigers fan!!!'"
You are RW and I claim my fiver.....
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| Richard Wright: "We've got a new stadium project up at Glasshoughton, it's been about 3 or 4 years in the making and we've got a planning permission and hopefully in 2011 we'll be there playing Super League football."
Dave Woods: "you say hopefully, how certain are you that this move is going to take place?"
Richard Wright: "er a great deal of works been done, obviously the financial climate at the moment is slowing everything down and people aren't coming on with projects that were planned but wer'e pretty confident that everything is going to plan. We've got the funding package put together and we're pretty sure we're going to be in in 2011."
Dave Woods: "Near neighbours Wakefield are looking for their new stadium, Is there any chance of sharing between the two clubs?."
Richard Wright: "Its always been a difficult sell for the fans, the prospect of one or the other playing in the others back yard and I think that's a difficulty er.. You never know what's going to happen.. Er . but to be honest Wev'e you know. . We're we fair fairly fortunate that we've got this leisure destination on our doorstep at Glasshoughton. A stadiums a great fit for the whole place and er y'know this has been going for some time so we're very fortunate to have that in our vicinity, so we we'll have to see what happens. We're just pluoghing our own furrow at the moment."
I put the stutters, the ers and the y'knows in the quote because it seemed to illustrate a general nervousness from RW. The first part of his statement also seems to contradict the second.
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| It reads far worse than it sounds to be honest.
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| Quote ="Disco"It reads far worse than it sounds to be honest.'"
Theres a suprise with a Wakie fan writing the script out
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| Quote ="braytontiger"knocking the main stand down and turning the field around has been spoke about for years and im sure was the original plan before a new stadium got brought up,where we would play while the work was done is anyones guess.
but thats a last resort, i still believe glass houghton will be delivered if not now then when the economic climate changes and picks up.'"
Surely turning the pitch around and rebuilding the stands would be as expensive as the Glasshoughton option, if not more so. Why not just replace the main stand with a mega structure accomodating all the requirements of license criteria eg minimum seating capacity etc OK the ground still wouldn't look attractive but it would be fit for purpose and we would get to keep the type of atmosphere which most new stadia are totally devoid of.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I put the stutters, the ers and the y'knows in the quote because it seemed to illustrate a general nervousness from RW. The first part of his statement also seems to contradict the second.'"
Whilst John Kear doesn't "er" once during his interview regarding the new ground does he
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| Quote ="Tictac"Whilst John Kear doesn't "er" once during his interview regarding the new ground does he
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Kear is a Coach, RW is a CEO - you'd expect one to be better informed than the other
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| Quote ="Tigerfeet"Am I missing something here? Wakefield announce "plans" for a stadium and all of a sudden everyone is talking about us sharing a ground with them? No feasibility study, no outline planning permission, no proof of funding, not even a design of what the stadium will look like!
Lets just wait until Cas make an announcement about our stadium. I know no more than anybody else on here, but unlike Vastman I am not going to guess about what Cas have or haven't done. He spends so much time talking about Cas, I'm sure he's a secret Tigers fan!!!'"
Apart from a 10 year old sketch we could be talking Glasshoughton.
TBH you have a point, but the only one that really matters is proof of funding the rest IMO are window dressing. Proof of funding is the one thing neither of us have - same at Saints and Salford for that matter.
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| Quote ="vastman"Apart from a 10 year old sketch we could be talking Glasshoughton.
TBH you have a point, but the only one that really matters is proof of funding the rest IMO are window dressing. Proof of funding is the one thing neither of us have - same at Saints and Salford for that matter.'"
That's true, the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that the RFL could/should have a leniant stance come 2011. I think that it would be hypocritical should the RFL pontificate about the lack of quality stadiums in the next round of franchises, as in all honesty, I don't see our ground or any other being completed for that matter. The only difference is that Saints have the best team in Super League and won't be kicked out because of that, whereas what with BBC sport relocating to Salford, I don't think they will be left out. So those two clubs don't seem to be in the rush that the two West Yorkshire clubs are, as this seems direct competition with eachother. I genuinely hope both stadiums are built, but I don't think it will be done in the time frame required- but surely the RFL will use common sense and see that 4/5 clubs are in the same boat and with the state of the economy it is unfeasable to complete before the next round of franchises.
Just out of interest, what is the situation regarding other clubs stadiums? I seem to remember Bradford requiring work to be done at Odsal, or a new facility built, would the RFL kick them out should nothing happen and if there poor form and dwindling crowds continue? I don't say this to belittle Bradford, just stress the point that they would be a much harder option for the RFL to get rid than "smaller" clubs such as Cas or Wakefield.
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