Yes but sale officials were seen at Denny's house before this so called retirement from rugby league. Then their is the case of Denny turning up to sale training session while still a Castleford player.

Cas have a strong case here.

The repercussions for the sport if sale and Denny win is plain bad news. What's to stop other player pulling the same retirement trick when they get offered huge wages from a union side as there would be no transfer fee involved.

They will claim and he and his agent will confirm he had already made his decision but forgot to notify his club. As for turning up at Sale and training didn't stop all those A N Other appearing in league sides.
Personally think it's going to be difficult to stop it after all we don't seem to be able to stop it happening between our own clubs

You would hope that there were provision for this within the standard playing agreement.

Just think it'll end with the undisclosed fee statement.
It's going to be difficult for a court to say you cannot play any other sport other than league a ban from league yes a ban from other sports unlikely.
I'm sure some legal brief will quote Chase retired from the sport and was allowed to sign for Cas (with Leighs agreement) and that Dwyane Chambers was serving a ban when he signed a trial contract at Cas

it doesn't matter. Chase did so with Leigh's permission so didn't breach contract, Chambers had no contract to breach.

Theo Farges? Joel Moon? Hudson Smith? All walked out on a contract all against their clubs wishes all signed elsewhere for the UNDISCLOSED FEE.
Can't see this ending any other way

because their clubs allowed them to.

If they do come to some agreement, it probably will be undisclosed, but I wouldn't bet on it being an insignificant amount.

The amount will be irrelevant for the new Sale owners already taking of spending millions.
Don't get me wrong nothing would please me more than Sale getting hammered in the courts but look at their history they stitched up Sale RFC when stealing their name they stitched up Stockport County when they bought Edgley Pk and they didn't do a bad job letting Salford nearly bankrupt themselves getting Barton up and running only to take the opportunity to get control of the stadium without spending a penny

In the end remember Marwan Koukash demanding a world record fee for Farges to deter Saints didn't work.

Like I've said that will be the outcome of this also a lot of talk a lot of posturing and in the end he signs for Sale.
Cas need to get the best deal they can but if they dig in to much Sale will let it run and if a court rules against them (unlikely) they will move on and Cas end up with a very unhappy player and we've all seen where that ends

In the end remember Marwan Koukash demanding a world record fee for Farges to deter Saints didn't work.

Like I've said that will be the outcome of this also a lot of talk a lot of posturing and in the end he signs for Sale.
Cas need to get the best deal they can but if they dig in to much Sale will let it run and if a court rules against them (unlikely) they will move on and Cas end up with a very unhappy player and we've all seen where that ends

Opps double post that's what happens when you multi task

Sale cant just ignore contract and employment law. He has a fixed period contract and cannot work for another employer outside that contract period with his employers consent. Most people have an open ended contract of employment but with a notice period one month three months 12 months etc. You cna give notice but you cant just walk out and start working without honouring those terms. Many contract also have covenants which cant dictate who you work for but that you cant take business or clients with you. A sporting contract is for a fixed period and any court would enforce that regardless of the industry involved. The only way around it is to compensate the exisiting employer or pay up the value of the constract

In a nutshell that's what I've been saying like Leeds did with Moon encouraged him to go to a tribunal failed he claimed homesickness said he wouldn't come back Salford forced into accepting a UNDISCLOSED fee same with Farges and the same will happen here. Wrong I accept but that's how it goes.
As I said earlier can't see a judge stopping him from accepting a better contract but can see one accepting a ban from rugby league only

If he has "retired" as reported then there's very little Cas will be able to do other than chase him for a couple of months worth of salary which would cover the time he should be at the club running his notice down. Sale have been somewhat immoral but it doesn't appear to be illegal what they've done and nothing worse than what RL has done to RU in the past.

Cas may be posturing now saying that they don't agree with it, but faced with the prospect of an expensive court case they likely gain very little from, they'll cut their losses and agree to his release just as other clubs have done before

Cas can't sue Sale for breach of contract as Sale do not have a contract with Cas.

What Cas should be doing is suing Denny and seeking an injunction preventing him from playing for anyone else. Drag it out and get some cash from Sale. There is no point in forcing Denny back to Cas.

I hope I never see him on a rugby league pitch again and I hope he gets found out in Union.

He should definitely get some kind of ban from the RFL that's for sure. If he doesn't don't think league clubs will be rushing to sign him if he flops in union.

He shouldn't be allowed to walk straight back into rugby league. The RFL have to show some kind of leadership here.

If this was an NRL player he would be slapped with a ban.

Also why are some people saying this is no different to when league clubs signed union players?

Union players were amateurs the time. Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't that mean they had no working contracts with there union clubs.

I imagine they'll be able to retain his RL registration for the remainder of his contract with Cas which will stop him moving back to League without Cas getting some money, but as you say, RL and RU have no agreement, and Cas have no contract with Sale over Solomona so they can't chase them. They can go after Solomona but really all they will be able to get is a couple of months worth of salary back (assuming they're still paying him). The only question I'd have is regarding his Visa, how would renaging on his contract affect his right to work in the UK?

correct but nearly everyone of them had a paid job and I know one who's employer outside of Rugby union but a Union club sponsor threatened him with "you will never work in that industry again"
Ask yourself why so many chose to appeared as A N Other before taking the plunge it was because those none paying union people could make life extremely difficult for anyone even having a trial

What about sale tapping Solomona up while under contract. Meaning sale are guilty. Both as bad as each other.

They were anonymous mainly because if they even trained with an amateur RL club they would have been 'professionalised' and banned for life from rugby union. This was the case until the RL MPs pointed it out in the 90s

I would hope that for the good of the sport of RL Cas & the RFL join forces to legally challenge this move by Sale & Denny, financially & technically, using everything at their disposal.

I find it hard to believe that with the alleged evidence previously mentioned that there hasn't been some interference/incitement/tapping up by Sale & if the connection can be made by mere onlookers/fans then highly paid lawyers should be able to prove without doubt a breach of contract by Denny &/or some sort of charge against Sale.

I hope there isn't a law against overuse of slash/marks ?

RU can have no complaints about RL's past behaviour.

If their players were amateur, as they loftily claimed, they'd have no contract to break. Hypocritical toe-rags.

I am still amazed he was on £40k pa at Cas.

Sale Sharks' head coach truly taking the here:

[i"There are no governing body registrations between the sports," added Diamond.

"It is just like someone coming from another sport to rugby union, whether it be football or basketball and I don't understand what the furore is about."[/i

If this is the case, then what's to stop every rugby league player retiring and jumping ship? What a shambles - Sale should be ashamed of themselves. Cas are not a rich club - I hope this legal battle doesn't do us more harm than good.

As with any standard period contact, there is no "notice" to be worked....technically, without prior agreement of an early release, his notice period would run until the end of the contract.

As there is no agreement between the RFL and RFU, there isnt alot Cas can do to stop his registration. They can however, take it to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, what that would achieve....i dont know. It might not be worth it in the end.

For me, if I was Cas, I would take the case to court regardless...more for principle than anything, Sale will expect it to get dropped because its "little old Cas who cant afford a brass bean"