www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... s_on_loan/ are you short of wingers?

www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... s_on_loan/ are you short of wingers?

Not short of wingers but short on centres. Will be a good addition though if only for a month. Can't see James Clare getting in now though.

Looks like you'll be sorted for next year though. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

Looks like you'll be sorted for next year though. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

Hope this is true. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

Hope this is true. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

So the centres will be Shenton & Webster?

Now let's throw a load of money at Finch so we have some quality in the halves with Chase and get a second rower too.

Looks like you are the ones prepared to meet Shenton's 100k+ demands. I like the kid, but there's not a British centre in the game I'd throw that sort of money at.

How ironic

In what way?

Shenton is and always has been a fine defensive centre, but he has never offered much in attack which is why I guess that Saints will offload him.

£120k is a lot of dough, based on your ability to sign quality players this season.
Who is coming off contract?

Loads mate, Hudson, McGoldrick, Jones, Snitch, youngquest, Orr, Ferres etc

Nick Youngquest, Joe Arundel, Josh Griffin, Danny Orr, Brett Ferres, Steve Snitch, Stuart Jones, Ryan Hudson, Paul Jackson, Ryan McGoldrick, John Davies, James Grehan - all OOC.

Quite a few on big money there i would have thought, and probably half a team to re-build.
Any confidence you will get a better calibre in to replace them?

Hopefully these 2 signings to be announced will indicate the calibre of player that we are aiming to bring in. Loads of money free'd up with the OOC players.

Out of those listed I can see maybe 3 at the most staying with Cas Tigers. We should bring in about 8 new signings to cover those leaving and as always bring a few young 'uns through.

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I would like to see Shenton back, but not on silly money.

If Saints want rid, time to negotiate or leave alone. But beggars cant be choosers and Cas aint very atractive to most players nowadays

Youngquest - looks like he's set on moving to New York next season
Arundel - Hull bound it seems
Griffin - not Super League standard
Orr - too old, time to move on
Ferres - Huddersfield bound apparently
Snitch - No thanks
Jones - No thanks
Hudson - Time to retire
Jackson - Time to retire
McGoldrick - Why is he even still at the club?
Davies - Needs a new contract, kid will be a beast
Grehan - Why was he even signed?

That's probably 500k on the salary cap - that's a lot to play with for say: Michael Shenton, Jake Webster, Matty Smith and some barnstorming south sea islander second rower then some squad players.

Owen
Clare
Shenton
Webster
Dixon
Chase
Smith
Huby
Milner
Emmitt
New signing
Holmes
New signing

Clark
Millington
Walker
Davies

is the rangu to catalan got any credence? only super league team he could play for..just wondering and not trolling!

As already stated.

Don't think we'll pay Shenton £120k, though, either.

No. Next question.

I would retain Youngquest, Arundel, Griffin, Ferres and Davies. I really do think people are being very harsh on Griffin - perhaps just another scapegoat that people are trying to pin blame on.

Snitch has impressed this season and probably out the lot has looked like he's wanting to earn a contract the most. If he's willing to play for less might be worth a new deal as a squad player but he could probably walk into somewhere like Widnes on a better deal.

Just a question of whether we can sign players to make these people want to stick around (with the higher earners going on to reduced terms).

Backline:

Owen
Youngquest
Clare
Dixon
Griffin
Atkinson
Shenton?
Webster?
Arundel
Chase
Johnson
Brierley?

Forwards:
Massey
Huby
Emmitt
Walker
Millington
Nash
Ferres
Snitch
Thompson
Holmes
Milner
Clark
Davies

That's 24 players if we get them all signed up. We have also have kids like Martin coming through the ranks too.

I reckon we'd probably only need one or two back-rowers and a half and we're nearly there.

I don't think Cas will have a choice with Youngquest, he seems pretty sure on going to NY, Arundel & Ferres are apparently done deals so again nothing Cas can do if that's true, Davies is a must keep.

Griffin however, nothing to do with him being a scapegoat - you're the only person who appears to see any sort of talent in him. He just isn't Super League standard.

On what basis?

His try scoring his ability?

Or his 'apparent' inability to tackle, when he's not even in the top ten. In fact, he's not even in the top 50 for missed tackles.

For us:

Top try scorer
6th in tackle busts
6th in carries
Second in metres
Top average gain
3rd clean breaks

Seems to me like he's a very good attacking player. He just needs someone inside him that is strong in defence and can help nurture his game.

That's because not attempting to make the tackle (or not even being in the right position, or being close to being in the right position) doesn't count as a missed tackle - the exact same reason why McGoldrick never appears on these lists because the both of them just don't bother.

As for his attacking stats - you could put any player at the club on his wing and they'd put up similar stats, in fact if you put Youngquest there they would be even better.

Flying infield when he has no need to do so is just unforgivable as a professional player and the fact he's doing it on a continual basis shows either A. the coaching staff aren't doing their jobs properly or B. Griffin is too thick to understand what he's doing is wrong...and with him being dropped for someone who's been at the club less than a week, I'll go with B.

He's such a good player Nathan Brown didn't want him at Huddersfield, BATLEY didn't want him and Wakefield were all too happy to get rid of him - because all 3 teams knew he was a defensive liability and average in attack.