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| Six contracted players :-
Sherwin to 2010
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McGoldrick to 2012
Do we have any quota places left for next year and does the number of imports per club reduce after the 2010 season ?
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| The rules for 2010 are:
Quote At least 7 home grown players.'"
Huby, Owen, Westerman, Shenton, Boyle, Massey, Thompson, Arundel, Cording, Davies, Gledhill, Walker
Quote No more than 5 quota players.'"
Sherwin, Sargent, Chase, Widders, McGoldrick
Quote No more that 6 overseas trained players inc quota players.'"
Evans (UK passport) + quota 5
Quote Rest of squad to be from players trained within same federation.'"
So we have filled all our quota spots, meaning that no overseas players will be coming next year, unless we get rid of one of our quota players, which looks pretty unlikely.
For 2011 we can only have 5 overseas players, so it looks like one of Sherwin, Sargent and Chase will be leaving at the end of next year - I imagine it'll be Sherwin.
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| How long do players after be here before they come off the quota?
I Thought it was 5 year. Surely Mcgoldrick and Evans have been here for that period.
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| That rule was scrapped a few years ago.
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| What about Drew and Martin then?
Are either of them exempt or have we got some plan up our sleeve?
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| Quote ="mdean"What about Drew and Martin then?
Are either of them exempt or have we got some plan up our sleeve?'"
Neither of them are joining Cas.
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| Quote ="Fully"Neither of them are joining Cas.'"
Which is a very good thing!!
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| Quote ="Fully"Neither of them are joining Cas.'"
Hmm, I want to say to you "based on what do you say that" but you're saying that based on the same thing that I am saying my post from - pure speculation, so I will take that on the chin!
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| Quote ="mdean"Hmm, I want to say to you "based on what do you say that" but you're saying that based on the same thing that I am saying my post from - pure speculation, so I will take that on the chin!'"
werent they signed under the impression that they would then become "off quota", as can be seen from the initial posts of the thread there isnt any space for quota players
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| Quote ="OmneFC"werent they signed under the impression that they would then become "off quota", as can be seen from the initial posts of the thread there isnt any space for quota players'"
Even if they were off quota there wouldn't be any space for both of them in the six overseas trained spots. Even if Evans hadn't been re-signed.
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| Quote ="Bearded"Even if they were off quota there wouldn't be any space for both of them in the six overseas trained spots. Even if Evans hadn't been re-signed.'"
because of the new "Gene exemption" rules, players meeting certain criteria , i.e. being in the country long enough, can apply to become federation trained, Stanly Gene is the main example, but Willie Manu at Hull is also going through this process
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| Quote ="OmneFC"because of the new "Gene exemption" rules, players meeting certain criteria , i.e. being in the country long enough, can apply to become federation trained, Stanly Gene is the main example, but Willie Manu at Hull is also going through this process'"
Well if Manu can do it, having come to the country the same year as McGoldrick, surely Ryan can too?
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Quote ="Gazemous"Well if Manu can do it, having come to the country the same year as McGoldrick, surely Ryan can too?'"
not brilliant on the rfl rules side, but people better than be believe manu is eligible
viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
heres the link
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Quote ="Gazemous"Well if Manu can do it, having come to the country the same year as McGoldrick, surely Ryan can too?'"
not brilliant on the rfl rules side, but people better than be believe manu is eligible
viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
heres the link
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| Quote ="Poker Face"Six contracted players :-
Sherwin to 2010
Sargent to 2010
Chase to 2010
Evans to 2011
Widders to 2011
McGoldrick to 2012
Do we have any quota places left for next year and does the number of imports per club reduce after the 2010 season ?
Thanks'" Evans won't be quota
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Well if Manu can do it, having come to the country the same year as McGoldrick, surely Ryan can too?'"
Manu is getting married next week. Don't know if that makes a difference.
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| Quote ="Bearded"Manu is getting married next week. Don't know if that makes a difference.'"
hhmmmm may be the difference, may have to be uk citizen to apply for the exemption
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| Quote ="Bearded"Even if they were off quota there wouldn't be any space for both of them in the six overseas trained spots. Even if Evans hadn't been re-signed.'"
Right as it were you were signing Martin and we were signing Evans in effect a straight swap for the want of a better description. Cas realised that they could not sign Martin because of the quota fair enough, but they had already decided to let Evans go so therefore what was the problem signing Martin. And finally if they cannot sign Martin how come they can resign Evans whats the difference maybe a Cas fan might know because it is certainly confusing to me
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| Quote ="chissitt"Right as it were you were signing Martin and we were signing Evans in effect a straight swap for the want of a better description. Cas realised that they could not sign Martin because of the quota fair enough, but they had already decided to let Evans go so therefore what was the problem signing Martin. And finally if they cannot sign Martin how come they can resign Evans whats the difference maybe a Cas fan might know because it is certainly confusing to me
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It s definatley a confusing situation. at the end of the day no one outside the clubs and there agent know exactley what went on, there was never any official anouncement made with regards to either player, so we dont know if they ever put pen to paper, or even if a deal was ever one and it was just silly rumours. Either way i think the matter will be put to bed as i would expect wakey to resign martin.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Right as it were you were signing Martin and we were signing Evans in effect a straight swap for the want of a better description. Cas realised that they could not sign Martin because of the quota fair enough, but they had already decided to let Evans go so therefore what was the problem signing Martin. And finally if they cannot sign Martin how come they can resign Evans whats the difference maybe a Cas fan might know because it is certainly confusing to me
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Maybe you're not as well informed as you think you are and no deal was ever on the cards.
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| Quote ="pyeman"It s definatley a confusing situation. at the end of the day no one outside the clubs and there agent know exactley what went on, there was never any official anouncement made with regards to either player, so we dont know if they ever put pen to paper, or even if a deal was ever one and it was just silly rumours. Either way i think the matter will be put to bed as i would expect wakey to resign martin.'"
More than just rumours but i guess we'll never know the full story, some back peddling by both clubs is in order and then we can move on.
At times both clubs seem to be run poorly.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Maybe you're not as well informed as you think you are and no deal was ever on the cards.'"
Presumably if I was as imformed as you imagine I think i am then surely that would have been a silly question for me to ask. As it goes it would appear that neither of us are as imformed as we would like to think we are, the difference being that i recognise that hence the question in the first place where as you by your own admission can only assume that you know the answer hth
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| Quote ="chissitt"Presumably if I was as imformed as you imagine I think i am then surely that would have been a silly question for me to ask. As it goes it would appear that neither of us are as imformed as we would like to think we are, the difference being that i recognise that hence the question in the first place where as you by your own admission can only assume that you know the answer hth
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Exactley, as i said we may never know what what happened and i think the matter is best put to bed now. All it can possibley achieve is more bickering between the two sets of fans which i really dont want to see anymore of, i enjoy it far more when we stand side by side against little planks from huddersfield.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Exactley, as i said we may never know what what happened and i think the matter is best put to bed now. All it can possibley achieve is more bickering between the two sets of fans which i really dont want to see anymore of, i enjoy it far more when we stand side by side against little planks from huddersfield.
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There was plenty of rumours going around from both sets of fans and i thought that if they were true it seem a little strange, but as you rightly say we will probably never know and maybe they were just rumours nothing more. When all is said and done there is plenty of them going round at the moment especially at our place, we will be lucky to have a team come next Feb. If you want to know anything Wakefield which I am sure you dont anyway, go on the midgets board Queen Marsden is holding court at the minute.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"More than just rumours but i guess we'll never know the full story, some back peddling by both clubs is in order and then we can move on.
[size=150=redAt times both clubs seem to be run poorly.'" [/size
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| According to today's League Express Evans has a dispensation not to count as 'non-Federation trained'.
I'm not entirely sure this is correct but if it is we have room for 1 more 'non-fed trained' player next year. I'd also not be surprised if Chase is KOLPAC hence doesn't count on overseas quota* in which case we can sign a Quota player.
* 2010 restrictions being up to 6 'non-federation trained' players of which a maximum of 5 can be overseas quota** players.
** Overseas quota players being those that do not hold an EU passport or qualify under the KOLPAC ruling.
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