If we’re not careful aren’t we?

Three halves without scoring a single point. What’s going on?

We need something to change for the better and quick.

Dare I say it? The players tried really hard! But a total lack of quality. League 1 quality 3 quarters and an ageing pack. Having said that we still shouldn't have lost 46 nil at home. I've been watching Fax a very long time and can only think of more humiliating home defeats in our last SL season.

A ludicrous post. We've half a team out. Cawoods was worse. Get our players back and we will be mid table. That said, today was shocking and totally embarrassing from a Halifax RLFC point of view.

I think that is the problem though isn't it? Our main players that are injured are unlikely to either feature again this season or not be back until near the end.

I went to every game in 2003 and accepted that we were in a bad position, lost a lot of quality before the season started, had any quality we had left jump ship before the half way point, and ended up giving a lot of game time to a bunch of kids. In a strange way things feel quite similar this season except you look at our team and even though I think most of us agree it needs some changes, we still have better players than getting a drubbing at home to Sheffield or that second half against Widnes.

The most concerning thing is not been able to name a full squad most weeks and having to name players in the squad who the opposition will be well aware are not fit to play. What happens if we get some more injuries? We seem to be 1 or 2 injuries away from not even been able to name a starting 17.

I saw the statement that Lee Kenny put out and it was well put together but at the end of the day the results on the pitch matter and our coach is not been given the resources to put together a competitive squad and we could easily end up been around the relegation battle.

How about now..?

No chance!

Am looking forward to L1 something to play for :d

How about now?

This is becoming shambolic and fast. From the board and the poor management of the squad. There is more than enough quality in the 17 to be at least competitive, irrelevant of injuries. A week off and still another 20+ points loss. All 6 losses, we have never been in it (22 point avg.) Stinks of lack of resilience. We are getting pumped. It's not a case of one- score losses. Anything to suggest things will change? Loss against Donny then surely he has to go.

I don't think we do have the quality, especially with the players available at the moment. Take our starting pack yesterday, at least 3 wouldn't get in any other championship team. Same to be said of our outside backs (exc JWH). Writing was on the wall last year and could be seen in early season games where we even struggled to put amateur teams away as well as we should have done. Retained too many players who are past their best and seem to have lost their passion. And brought in some players who are of lower quality. Then top this off with clear lack of shape in attack an even more so in defence.

And then we have either no money and/or no clout (or a stubbornness) to bring loan or new players in. We knew 3 months ago we had several key players out for a long period, yet have failed to bring in replacements, the club even suggesting there is no one available despite all other clubs being able to do this. To the extent now that this is getting to be a lack of player welfare. Rumour is at least 1 other (key) player is wanting out.

Does it really matter? The RFL has destroyed the Championship with its absurd IMG system plus it's impossible to compete with money bags Wakey anyway.

Ironically it'll be more entertaining and meaningful watching Fax in a relegation scrap as we'll have something to play for - survival.

It's got to the stage where I hate Super League and everything they stand for. It was pleasing to see loads of empty seats at the CC semis and teams like Cas and Hull getting thrashed in the league, not just because they have 'orrible fans, but it shows the SL is failing in what they're trying to pathetically achieve.

I agree. Watching the NRL magic weekend just shows what can be achieved in this sport but the people who are in charge have made a mess of it. Going right back to when SL was set up and they sold our sport to the devil (sky). It won’t ever recover and the championship and championship 1 are going to be left to drift away and die. As such the SL will get weaker and the international fixtures will just be England getting smashed.

Sky appear to be losing interest in SL with ever decreasing contract renewals. plus they're farming out live games to the BBC who I'm guessing will pay nak all. SL clubs are relying more on sugar daddies who won't be around forever.

Let's breakaway and go back to winter rugby. Oh how I loved watching Fax at thrummers on a cold boxing day under the lights!

Nail on the head. This team is nearly full of players of who needed easing out at least 1-2 seasons ago. Finn has been well and truly dealt a crap hand, the frustrating thing is that in key positions where other teams in the championship struggle we have a 1,6,7,9 (albeit injured) who are getting in to any other team, we just don't have the supporting cast. 2 seasons with only 1 centre, that is just dire mismanagement. A winger playing at loose forward for the last few games, I mean who looks at that and doesn't think there is a problem?

On top of that we have a jobs for the boys culture at the club and a BOD who just wanted a hobby horse and now look like they are not up to the task. The club looks in a dire situation at this point and relegation is certainly a possibility.

Letts stage a sit in after the Doncaster game if we lose AGAIN until Finn is removed this can not continue

Letts stage a sit in after the Doncaster game if we lose AGAIN until Finn is removed this can not continue

Irrespective of whether one thinks the BOD is up to the task or not, at least they've put their necks on the block and are trying to do their best for the club, and I'm sure they'd welcome anybody on board if they think they can do better.

Difference of opinions over the players, coach and board over the varies social media channels as you would expect.

Some think the players are capable of doing better some think several are past it.

Likewise some think Finn should be doing a better job, others he’s doing the best with what he’s got.

Probably a bit of both with both but we’re not improving and every game shows the same things, we’ve never been in with much of a chance in any of them.

We look the worst we’ve ever looked in both in attack and defence with the same things talked about needing fixing that go unfixed each week we’re we’ve played on every type of pitch in every type of weather with the same showing.

It’s obvious that with what and who we have on the playing and coaching staff things aren’t going to change and there’s no new board waiting to take over.

I get why he’s backing the players in public but it’s not how the public / supporters are seeing things or in the week after week the performances / results or in some of his team selections / comments.

He’s being politically kind and correct or he’s miss judging things, either way he needs to bending the Boards ears big time and say to have any real chance of getting back on track either get at least 2 or 3 decent players in whatever it takes or we may be facing some even more serious consequences.

Maybe just over optimism but I still feel that’s all we need, an aggressive prop who can dent the line in the middle and get us going forward and an aggressive centre / centres who can do the same on the edge.

I think there are some comments in his after game interview that could be taken as trying to force the boards hand this coming week when he says we won't be able to name a full team next week due to the latest injuries. Hopefully that brings a positive response but like has been said its a worry that other teams have been able to afford to bring loan players in but it looks like we can't do that. I just can't see Finn turning players down at the moment so this has to be a decision higher up.

When did we last name a 21 man squad? Most weeks it has been 20 and last week was just 19!

There's issues within the squad with the quality of some players as has been said by others, however with it been so small there's not a case of someone who doesn't perform been dropped the following week. There is no competition for places, and it is likely some players are playing who aren't 100% and if we had a larger squad would be resting that weekend.

Right now we're in a really rut, no idea where the next win is coming from. Something needs to change and quick.

That and the emotions, pressure of the moment.

Just after another defeat and losing 2 more key players from a already thread bare squad with the extent of the injury / time frame unknown during the interview.

I mean if you were a specialist speech writer what could you put down that would change anything or make things sound good?

The board have said they fully back Finn and they work together they need to recognise the importance of the moment and show that now.

If they do and it still doesn’t work then the responsibility / accountability will fall on the coaching staff, if they don’t it will fall on them and there will be repercussions that could split the club and fans base maybe irrevocably.

Worst team I have seen since Anthony Farrell was coach and we nearly got relegated.
Squad is too small . All teams get injuries.
Relying on dual reg is not working.
I won't be spending £20 to watch semi professional rugby without any reward.
Now club has come out saying you cannot express a opinion.
No freedom of speech .

Spot on and if they don’t / can’t respond now then they never will and we’re in deep, deep trouble.

The problem with having a bigger squad and having spoken to a few players at Fax you either have some of a similar standard who think at Championship level their good enough to be playing each week and when there not more or less guaranteed a start would rather move on than hang around such as Aston a couple of years back, Pickersgill, Murray and Moore etc more recently.

Or you have the young lads like Cole Oakley, Ben Foster and this year Campbell who never get a game so what’s the point of having them?

Haven’t given a lot of thought to what others are doing, is it only us?