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So what's craic?
Done summat daft? Had a barney?

All down to consistency and performance Robin and you know as well as I do what Gadwin can bring to a side both the good and not so good.
When he’s on his game and up for it he’s devastating, when he’s not on his game and not up for it he’s frustrating as seen at several of his last clubs.
With Fax and SG It came to a head when he was left out against Whitehaven and he didn’t like it.
Fev could be the perfect club to get the best out of him and really add something to an already strong pack.
I personally am sad to see him go as apart from Tangata we have no one else with his sort of impact.
All the best Gadwin.

Stupid decision.Not seen anything myself of his supposed down side,except maybe the odd daft offload which I’d rather see than the boring 5 metre drives that all our other forwards,Tangata excepted,are capable off.

Knew it was coming one door closes but an opportunity for someone else

The report says he didn’t like being left out. No player does but that’s part of being in a squad. If it’s a ‘I’m don’t like being left out, I should play’ then good bye to him. That’s not a squad/ team attitude. You have to accept what the coach decides. Even if it is hard for the individual player. He is a great player but if he’s not a full squad/team/club player then we have let him go.
It may also be that the club have let him go with other people in mind who they want.

This reminds me of Sam Barlow - if either one of them had worked as hard as a Fairbank then they'd have been playing top end Superleague with their skills and physical attributes. At our level we're going to get either solid workhorses or players who can turn a game but will make mistakes - I'm sure Gadwin and Barlow both frustrated coaches no end - but I'm sure most fans would forgive them their flaws for the excitement they brought to the team. As with Barlow you can almost guarantee that when he plays against us he'll be man of the match.

Grix like all coaches has his favourites, players who can't be dropped no matter how they play. From very early on it was clear that he had a problem with Springer who seemed to be the fall guy a number of times when other players had performed worse. If anything the Haven game should have highlighted that we were crying out for a player like that and to get rid of a player when we are already short of numbers and to a division rival seems a bit daft. Fev will be laughing if this move works out, probably won't cost them much as we will likely have contributed and it weakens a squad that could potentially challenge them for SL.

You could make the argument though that if Springer is seen to be getting away with it on standards, based on the view that he may or may not bring more in terms of attack then that can also filter into the playing group. My view is that he wasn't fit enough - I don't think he ever played that 40 mins total per game. A player like that can blind you a little bit as you are so focused on what he can do with the ball i.e busting the line, getting the offload away that you won't always see what he's doing off the ball and what he brings in defence. It's clear Grix had set standards that he wasn't meeting personally and the coach lives and dies by the standards that players set for themselves, set by the coaching staff and their teammates. If he wasn't seen to be accountable and it was obvious to the rest of the team, then you set yourself up for a difficult situation - tackle buster or not.

1000% this...I like Liam Harris but against Toulouse he was like a turnstyle yet featured the following week.
How many of yesterdays side will get left out next week after conceding 28 points to a poor side ?? our worst
defensive effort for many weeks..

BJ. You can't leave anyone out if there's nobody to replace them.

Which makes the decision to get rid of a player who is without a doubt better than our squad players mystifying at best. Springer was named in the squad otherwise we could not have named a full squad which does make you think we have someone lined up. Id imagine after yesterday Connor Robinson will be back in against the Bulls but the big question is who does he drop out of Harris and Grix? The reality is we have a good idea it will be neither and more likely to be another of his fall guys.

Both your posts on this are spot on for me. you some grix and is double standards up perfectly. How can he be good enough for fev and not for us when they are currently better then us. For me the biggest problem of all is in the long run will the players start to see that certain ones can play poorly and still get picked were others make a couple of mistakes and are straight out of the side and in some cases out of the club. In grix interview he does say hopefully there will be some additions to the squad in the coming weeks. I was told by someone i trust yesterday that he is also trying to offload robinson for next season even thou he is contracted and looking at tom gilmore again at batley for next season if true is this not poor judgement on is behalf did he not know what robinson was like before signing him after hall he did play with him as a player. And did he not know what he was getting with springer he as to take the responsibility for this but he always puts it on the players.

Fair argument Singapore. I am more on the positive with this one as to who can they bring into the team now . Someone with size but a different attitude for me

Grix is looking it at a different angle from fans , he works with the players week in week out , he sees them in training, he as a direct insight into their attitude his default standard is hard work which springer wasn’t, he was roughly playing 20/30 mins per game and I’m surmising on top wages , I’d like to think that with springer, brearley, Hewitt and more than likely bourough out it ll free up some money to bolster the squad, it is mentioned we’re on the lookout.

I don't care who the player is you can't spit your dummy out if your not selected and if you do and start talking about leaving then there is only one option and that's what's happened.

Spot on.

This squad has a great spirit and work ethic. If someone doesn`t like it and has a go at the coach when left out the best thing for all parties is for him to move on.

Team spirit wins games that might be lost in every team game. Think back to Chris Andersons team of rag, tag and bobtails. A whole much greater than the individual parts built on togetherness.

If we get a player that adds to that then everyone will be happy. Just hope there is someone available.

Im not sure there has been a mention of spitting his dummy out rather a player that is not happy about not been selected. Id expect that from any player. I suspect its more a case of unhapiness towards the coach because he's playing to a different set of rules than some other players.

It would be interesting to hear Grix's real thoughts on the matter. Grix signed Springer and most fans could see what type of player he is from watching him. Did Grix think he could change that? Maybe he came under pressure from people above paying a player who wasn't playing. The whole timing is out as we already look low on numbers which makes us suspect that someone is lined up.

I take your your point about what grix sees in training that we as fans don't but springer playing about 30 mins per game is what he as done most of is career. I would assume most coaches talk to one another and if he had a bad attitude surely that would be common knowledge. And i would of thought we signed him to be a impact player not a workhorse for 80 mins basically we knew what we were getting. One last point gadwin spent a good few seasons at castleford under Powell as a coach who is considered one of the best in this country if he had these faults as a player how did he last that length of time there.

Tbh I was gutted when I saw the announcement, I like the type of player springer was going forward dynamic with an offload and I feel with springer Hewitt and bourough gone we have lost a bit of explosiveness especially in the 2nd phase , I would like to believe we have at least one or two players already pencilled in to come in . As regards springer I knew there was a problem as he was replaced in the Widnes game and at the end of the game I was watching him , everyone was congratulating each other and immersed in the Tyrer return and springer looked a little lost , he lives in Normanton I believe so the move to featherstone appears more practical for him . I agree there perhaps seems a little bit of inconsistency in grixs’ cut throat attitude to some players but not others ie worthington who I think is the only player not to score yet throughout the whole squad but is workrate , defence and attitude is spot on but as never been dropped.

I also have a feeling that Grixs’ play style may not marry up to Lawrence turners promise of expansive rugby , if you watch the press conference at the beginning of the panthers rebrand Grix doesn’t say much in response to turners indication of free flowing rugby but in his pre and post match interviews his focus is defend make little errors then use the energy saved by that for attack . It may be that Grix was persuaded by Turner to sign a marquee player like springer in an attempt to attract more fans , like I said in my previous post it’s all conjecture so who knows .

Who are these other players?
Off the top of my head I can think of several who have been left out.
Larroyer, Rawsthorne, Salty, McGrath, McComb, Calcott, Davies, Borough (who should be back with us and eligible for selection this week) etc etc but none of these have followed the route Gad has.
If a different set of rules exist why aren’t any of them so unhappy they want to leave?
How is it every player I have listened to aren’t talking about division within the club, in fact it’s the opposite such as togetherness, team spirit and watching each others back that has played a big part in the current winning streak?
Absolutely gutted to lose our main impact player but he’s gone, the club comes first, time to move on.

To be fair 4 out of the 8 you mention are squad players and probably not expected to play many games. I doubt Springer was signed as a player to pad out the squad. Rawsthorne, Salty and Borough have only been left out when unavailable or injured. When Larroyer was not selected I also thought it were a bad decision because im picking him over our squad players and players like Kav and Garside every day of the week.

This is the problem,the squad gets weaker as the season progresses.Bring in a couple now and we’re still two down and we weren’t good enough at the beginning...