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| Seen as we have no game this week to talk about from what you have seen so far this season were do you think we need to strengthen for next season. I will go with fullback.,halfback,and secondrow and will leave my opinion on the coach until the end of this season.
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| It depends on what ambition the club has really, also what funding/format will be in place. If we are happy with a top four finish I think the present squad is perfectly adequate for that. Aiming higher I would have another second rower and another prop at least. Woody at fullback looks fine and Robinson at half has yet to prove himself again as has Harris who is very hit and miss. As for the Coach, SG will be judged at the end of the season. He would not have been my choice and there have been a few horrendous performances to date but if a coach is judged on improving players and results he will have at least another year especially if he achieves a top 3/4 finish. We'll see. Up The Fax!
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| In my view at the moment we have a lot of good solid reliable players definitely good enough to get the team into the top 4. Up until last couple of games JWH has been a revelation this season but other than that what the team seems to lack is an "x factor" player someone who can get the crowd out of their seats and turn a game that's not going well. In the recent past we've had Penky, Ben Black and Rob Worrincy in his pomp that could do that - I think Robinson is a good half at this level but top of my wish list would be a really good pacy s o to go with him. I accept this may be unrealistic with our budget - but we do need someone to get the crowds excited again.
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| I would be looking for a fast winger, and another quality centre. A big prop or loose forward (they seem interchangeable these days) that can break the line or at least dent it. As for second row if we could sign Hewitt he would do for me. If a top quality half back became available and we could afford one then why not. Widdop`s coming home?
As for the coach? Well we should have beaten Bradford and if we had.... That one was down to the players so give the coach to end of season and review then.
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| For me 2022 planning will unfortunately have to be the finances. Furlough and no rent has masked many of the perennial financial problems at the club . The off field structure of actually having an MD albeit he didnt charge a wage for several years will be a large gap to fill. As to overall delivery of a financial plan on budget I think that will dictate what we see on the field . This years squad looks capable of delivery particularly if Simon Grix improves Only he knows if he has the drive and will to better himself . Personally I still have my doubts but it is worth persevering and helping him to improve . He could start by at least trying to be more dynamic in his video clips
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| As it’s been for many years the pack is the problem.Get on top of teams and the rest falls into place quite easily.Take out the strike of Springer and Borough and we had a virtual amateur match last Sunday.Need half a dozen players in your squad that hurt the opposition like Fev not two.
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| As said it depends what the ambition is. If it is to aim for 3rd or 4th then we got it right this season and with a couple of additions we should be able to do that again next year. If its more than that then we probably need 2 quality wingers, another good centre, at least one half back, Amir Borough, and another prop/second row. That's probably how far we are away from the top teams. By the sounds of it Springer was dropped again becuase of his tackling but as we saw against a lower team it literally left us with no impact at all. Id also imagine from the lack of minutes that Morris did he probably should not have been playing which was a big loss in regards to impact.
There were a video out before the start of the season where Ian Croad was interviewed and basically said we had started planning as if there will be no central funding next season. The result of that is likely a drop in quality in the championship as some players simply quit but it also means there are going to be a lot of quality players available on reduced wages. I hope the top two have a back up plan if they do not go up because their squads look to be expensively assembled and with Leigh also coming down I think they could fall apart again as they have very few players signed up past this season and will need to put together a whole new team again. Its going to be survival of the fittest next year and beyond.
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| Isn’t the key question how much money is available for us next year compared to the rest of the league.
The loss of some sky money will result in all championships clubs having less to spend. I suspect Leigh will be an outlier as after relegation this year will still have Derek’s financial support.
We have been reasonably good in recent times at getting sponsorship, although our balance sheet will be ok now I suspect that will be mainly due to government schemes directly or via the RFL, and some of which money will need paying back over next couple of years.
It’s a real difficulty for the Board. I believe our present chairman has been one - if not the one - of our biggest sponsors in recent years, and most other board members give up huge amounts of time but can’t add money they don’t have. So I see no cash help there.
So I suspect if we do go for a big push and extra recruitment it will be down to all players in league getting smaller share of smaller pot and us managing to get every penny in we can.
Glad I’m not on the board!
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Apart from a couple of teams who may have the support of benefactors the rest are faced with the same problems and it's who from these can put a successful team together with what they have.
Spending loads of money doesn't guarantee anything as can be seen by a number of examples over the years with York being the club this time round but obviously they bigger the income streams the more chance you have.
Echoing the thoughts of many, Craig Lingard was having a real go at the RFL in the this weeks RL press and the local news for still not knowing what if any central funding will be available next year.
https://www.batleynews.co.uk/sport/othe ... rd-3307838
Closer to home there is still some uncertainty what the implications are concerning our BOD following on from recent events which will also play a major part in what lies ahead for the club.
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Apart from a couple of teams who may have the support of benefactors the rest are faced with the same problems and it's who from these can put a successful team together with what they have.
Spending loads of money doesn't guarantee anything as can be seen by a number of examples over the years with York being the club this time round but obviously they bigger the income streams the more chance you have.
Echoing the thoughts of many, Craig Lingard was having a real go at the RFL in the this weeks RL press and the local news for still not knowing what if any central funding will be available next year.
https://www.batleynews.co.uk/sport/othe ... rd-3307838
Closer to home there is still some uncertainty what the implications are concerning our BOD following on from recent events which will also play a major part in what lies ahead for the club.
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| Some really good points so far. I don't know if anyone saw a online interview i think with one of the directors in pre season he talked about the club in his words surviving 2020 consolidating 2021 and thriving in 2022 what this actually means for next season i don't know but i look forward to finding out.
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| Quote ="Dbvada"
Glad I’m not on the board!'"
I remember a few years back your lot would have given anything to get control of the club........
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| Quote ="terry silver"Some really good points so far. I don't know if anyone saw a online interview i think with one of the directors in pre season he talked about the club in his words surviving 2020 consolidating 2021 and thriving in 2022 what this actually means for next season i don't know but i look forward to finding out.'"
Yeah its on Youtube somewhere Terry.
[urlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U29CCi_BUg8[/url
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| Off topic it looks like amir bourough as been recalled by wigan i just hope he comes back as soon as possible.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Yeah its on Youtube somewhere Terry.
[urlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U29CCi_BUg8[/url'"
That was one my concerns I mentioned because since that interview two of the directors are no longer on the Board.
Does that change anything?
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| Quote ="terry silver"Off topic it looks like amir bourough as been recalled by wigan i just hope he comes back as soon as possible.'"
That will be a huge loss if that's right. He's been our best hooker this season. Id be playing Moore as hooker for the full 80 minutes now as much as the Davies twin trys I only ever see him been a squad player at very best.
Edit: Certainly true as he is in the Wigan team so a bit of a lack of comunication from the club. Dewsbury also had a welsh lad by the name of Connor Davies play for them last night and don't remember seeing anything about that.
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| From all the above I just dont see how championship rugby is sustainable without central finance support . The attendance figures just dont make it viable to cover match day costs on many matches ie whitehaven . It's a conundrum which I dont see an answer as already the entrance cost many would argue is too high for the product on the field , spectator numbers are unlikely to dramatically increase so just how does the business model work is the question I would think many clubs are asking maybe dave grayson saw the writing on the wall .
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| How's Sean Jones getting on in his rehab? I know he's been spending some time at Hunslet. Thought he really was a significant talent. Hope we get to see him back this season. I think Davies deserves a run in the team in Borough isn't coming back. His distribution is pretty good.
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| Also where is chester Butler these days did he progress at the Giants or just drift .
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| Also where is chester Butler these days did he progress at the Giants or just drift .
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| Quote ="Ohmetoe"Also where is chester Butler these days did he progress at the Giants or just drift .'"
Long term injury i believe.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"That will be a huge loss if that's right. He's been our best hooker this season. Id be playing Moore as hooker for the full 80 minutes now as much as the Davies twin trys I only ever see him been a squad player at very best.
Edit: Certainly true as he is in the Wigan team so a bit of a lack of comunication from the club. Dewsbury also had a welsh lad by the name of Connor Davies play for them last night and don't remember seeing anything about that.'"
I think the club could and should do better in that department. No mention about the players you mention and a update on how sion jones as been going on at hunslet would be good.
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| Quote ="Listenup94"https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/simon-grix-outlines-perils-coaching-21135804.amp?__twitter_impression=true'"
An interesting read and some's up a lot of the problems the teams at this level and below are facing.
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