there is no point beating about the bush on this i think he should be sacked as soon as possible and ideally replaced with either john sharp or andrew henderson i would be interested to here other peoples thoughts on this and if you think he should be given more time how bad should it get before he is sacked

In recent memory I cant remember any season where fax fans haven't whinged on about their coach.
You lot even moaned about matt Calland and he brought back the big one ffs.
A succession of coaches since have all got berated by fax fans when the issues are well beyond their achievability given the resources at their disposal.
Trud polishing is the best than can be hoped for with the squad at Grix's disposal.

To be fair, I normally agree with most of your posts but in this case I don’t. That squad is not too bad and shouldn’t be where it is in the league and performing as it is. Now is definitely the time to moan about the coach - the club have spent well on the squad, and more importantly, have spent bigger on a rebrand. Now is the time to get it right on the pitch…

dont you think fans are entitled to whinge as you put it when there side is playing crap or should they just keep supporting the club finically and keep quite is that how you support fev with your tale between your legs just excepting what ever the club does and if i were you i would be more concerned with the behavior of your winger then taking cheap shots at other clubs

How long does he have left on his contract and where would you get the money from to pay him off?

I staunchly defended Grix last week, however this week he will have to take some responsibility for turning a side that couldn't defend into one so scared of repeating last weeks mistakes they lost any confidence in putting together any form of attack . I tend to agree with an earlier poster that historically Fax fans have been quite quick to call for a coaches sacking- while I accept that the team is not playing to its potential at the moment, not sure how the club could afford this as I think he's got another couple of years on his contract.

Halifax does in my view have a long term problem but not necessarily the coach or the players
If over a long period of time you had a manager with total responsibility of running a department for you and no matter what funding or which different staff you put in productivity didnt improve who would change the staff or the manager responsible ?
Who made the decision not to interview coaching candidates? madness.
Who pushed for Marshall to be sacked rather than support him ?

Cheap shots my botty.
What is inaccurate about my post? Every coach since Calland has had stick....one point I will agree is that your entitlement of expression. Thats your right and entirely your choice as to whether you take it.
My point is that the problems facing fax are way beyond the abilities of any coach to successfully address. Other opinions on this are available.

A few random thoughts and questions on the issues surrounding SG and wether he should be sacked and there doesn’t seem to be an easy solution, it’s not just as simple as saying it’s time to go.

1. Can we afford financially to do so?

2. Can we afford not to do so because it may cost us more in the long run?

1. Having the finances to do so is the first requirement, because if we ain’t got the doe he ain’t going to go, at least not that way anyhow.

2. How can anyone predict how it will turn out with SG and if whoever replaces him will do any better?
Edit on 2. If results so far are anything to go by it won’t turn out well under SG.
Still unknown how a replacement would do.

Anyway. The question is front and centre now already this season and not just on here and with each game that passes and with their results it will become more or less so by itself, so one way or another it should be resolved.

A few more bad results he may decide to resign.

I thought is contract was up at the end of this season but as others have said it may be longer i am happy to be corrected on this.As for paying him off my understanding of when we sacked Marshall is that we agreed with him to continue to pay him monthly until is contract expired at the end of that season again happy to be corrected if wrong on this my point would be if this continues to get any worse and i think it will what will it cost us in the long run can we afford not to

what is inaccurate about your post is i never called for a other coach to be sacked and why is it beyond the abilities of the coach to address the on field problems we have if he cant then its time to give up the issues on the field we have are not down to money there down to the coach not being able to get the best out of the players he as at is disposal and that being the case since he took over take your fev hat off and do you think we are really a poor a side as our performances have been and would you be happy if fev appointed a coach with out even advertising the post first to see who was interested in the post to get the best person for the job

Most of our coaches at fev have been appointed without advertising.... but thats irrelevant here. We're not on about fev.
I never said you or anyone else called for grix to be sacked. I point out that got over a decade fans on this forum have complained about every single coach, where the problems facing fax run much deeper. If you think its the coach .... fair enough.... I have no intention of changing your opinion. But in my opinion a change of coach will not make any significant difference.
But hey..... don't let me stop you from venting your spleen on grix..... or any other poor say that follows him in post.... just like those that preceeded him

did your chairman not travel as far as Australia to get ryan carr we could only dream of that type of ambition at halifax and what are these much deeper problems that fax have could you explain seen as they are holding the club back as for venting my spleen on grix or any other coach what do you expect have you watched our performances under is guidance should all fans just be quiet and hand over there money without question i have read your forum and that does not happen on there you cant just not hold people to account other wise we will end up like the government and don't get me started on them.The cheap shot i was referring to was when you referred to halifax like polishing a terd if featherstone were struggling and i went on your forum as a halifax fan and said that how well do you think that would be received

Like most supporters on this forum I was delighted with the squad assembled this year - while covid situation probably brought some players within our budget that wouldn't otherwise have been, I would guess we still probably pushed the budget to the limit. While I've no idea what money Grix is on - I would be very surprised if we had the money to pay him off and then employ a new, more experienced, and therefore likely more expensive coach. If change just isn't feasible as supporters we have 2 alternatives - we slag off the coach at every opportunity, further reducing the confidence of both the coach and the team - or- however crap todays performance was - we get behind him in the hope he can turn things round.

Terry.... if you want to try and score points on fev.... feel free cocker. But this thread isn't about fev.
As I said earlier, you can vent your spleen as oft as you like. That is entirely your perogative.
BUT, it does not negate from the current issues facing fax. Grix, like those before him and in all likelihood those that succeed him, is hampered by the lack of available resources to take fax beyond where they are.
You may disagree. C'est la vie.

I were quietly confident that the team that we had put together would be good enough for 4th and at a push maybe 3rd. the problem is we look to be a team of individuals with no team spirit whatsoever and are just going through the motions. I think it could be time up for Grix unfortunatley just in an effort to save our season, whatever he is doing or trying is not working and the players do not seem to be trying for him. Some need to take a good hard look in the mirror because they are letting him down big style.

Its a very typical Halifax thing for something to get the big build up like the rebrand has only for the players to disappoint on the field. The question has to be what are our chances of making the playoffs with Grix in charge from this point? I would say its slim so then its a question of how much does the club lose in lost revenue from a team not performing compared to how much it costs to pay a coach off with what I believe is another year and a half left on his contract and then the chances of making the play offs with a new coach.

I would agree that we are light years away from challenging for promotion, Toulouse and Fev look a cut above the rest. When it comes to budget, outside of York and London I would imagine we have spent more than the rest or at least up there with Bradford and Widnes. Personlly I don't think we are getting performances that befit that sort of spend though. Bradford fair enough its a close defeat but I think we played poorly for a lot of the game but Toulouse and Oldham today I think both performances are unacceptable. The players dont look d and as a fan Im to the point anyway where Im a little non plussed deciding to spend more time being involved with the amateur game.

Been there.... 16 years ago in the third teir.
But enough of fev already.
Who do you see as the coach that will bring you what you want? Who will get you to play off footy?
I'm not sharing your views on recruitment. Other fax fans I know have concerns about your half backs. They do look very pedestrian and unable to create the openings for able backs to feed off.
I really don't share the view that another coach will be the saviour. Just like all the previous coaches in recent history.

I think GFB makes a very valid point about a lack of leadership - whatever people think about Grix I'm pretty certain players are not sticking to what he's coached during the week. In previous years we've been lucky that in Murrell and Kaye and even Tyrer we had players that not only led by example but who had the force of personality to demand levels of performance from the team. Now when things start going wrong no-one seems to take responsibilty - this was painfully obvious today when everyone seemed to be looking to someone else to take a lead. Brandon Moore is a great player at this level but not s captain - I said at the time I would have given it Fairbank. Wouldn't solve everything but would certainly help Grix if he had someone to help implemant his gameplan

A valid observation there.

Everyone has to start somewhere but I was concerned when SG got the job simply because off his lack of experience.
Every coach sees his side have a dip in form from time to time and usually knows how to turn it around from experience.
Not only with SG but there is no one on the coaching staff who has been there and done it when things go bad.
I wonder who SG can turn to for advice because if there isn’t anyone he’s in a real pressure spot at the moment with everyone from club directors, players and supporters all looking at him for what to do next.

I have kept most of my thoughts to myself recently, as being 8000 miles away, with a sporadic information highway to be able to get accurate information, however:
When I saw the squad that has been assembled I was quite excited that Fax had finally got a real shout at being there or a-bouts the fop of the pile end of season.
As for Mr. Grix, I had a slight concern about his credentials to be coach, especially as there were experienced others out of jobs at the time, however not being privy to the reasons behind his appointment, just had to trust in the decision makers.
Looking at things with a fact on fact view, something is clearly wrong in the dressing room, has the coach lost the respect of the team ?
It will be said he cannot control what happens once the guys are over the line come game day.
Mr. Grix should not need to be sacked, he should walk away penniless, how many of you would receive a payout if you were inept at you job.
Who is out there to take the mantle if Fax need to find a new head coach?
I do not know the pay structure, but in my day ( many years ago and no I did not reach the professional ranks) there was a pay scale for those who did, not just a salary for turning up, but bonus for winning, tries scored, clean sheet, debits for being booked ( sin bin / report now), and almost a hanging if you got an early bath.
Would this work in today’s game? I don t know the answer to that, however I do know the 17 should refuse the pay packet, no disrespect to Oldham but...
Finally, where I reside “our league “is not available, ( even with a VPN the Great Wall is still alive and well) not sure I want it to with Fax at the present situation.
As it says in my profile, bring on the knockers!!!

The concerning point for me was that he couldn't get a response from them. Last week, York had lost 2 on the bounce, one to Sheffield which I am sure they thought would win; they put 60 on Swinton. We never struggled to make metres yesterday and yes, we made error after error in their 20, but we seemed unable to turn any momentum towards us. Oldham won on making fewer errors and if we were being ruthless, both teams were terrible. People don't have patience with Grix because our expectations are related to our previous history: we were a winning team over several seasons. There was nothing catastrophic to indicate that Grix had his hands tied to his back in fact when Marshall got sacked, we was two-points of the playoffs. The evidence was there that season, won first 5 out of 6 and then 2 of the last 12. I think people even forget last year, although only 4 games, that was his squad and apart from one game against York, we were average a best. To make the playoffs, you'rere looking to win anything from 55%-65% of your games. We, therefore, need to win anything from 11 - 15 of our last 18 games. For me, we don't look like we are going to achieve that.

Spot on literally no response to last weeks drubbing. As you say about the standard on show, it looked like two teams of relegation standard playing each other.

Good players do not always make good coaches and good coaches were not always good players. We seem to be in the habit of testing our ex players to see if that is true. Next time let other teams test and go for someone with actual coaching experience of leading a team.

Spot on.

Just reviewing all the games Grix has been in charge of (sad I know); apart from the start, winning 5 of the first six, we've won 5 of the last 24 competitive games. We are a losing club, with clearly losing habits. I don't think you turn that around quickly. It's easier to see a trajectory if we were underperforming beforehand under Marshall but we weren't. We are not marginally but SIGNIFICANTLY worse under Grix right now.