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| "Daryl Powell has named his 19 man squad to take on Hull KR on Friday night. Powell makes four changes to his team after last Friday’s loss to top of the table St Helens. Junior Moors, Greg Minikin and Ben Roberts miss out through injury along with James Green. Powell welcomes back Joe Wardle and winger Greg Eden, while Kieran Gill, Tuoyo Egodo and Will Maher could all make their first appearances of 2018 (Maher recalled from a season long loan at Halifax)."
Eh? So what's the point of a season long loan when it can effectly be "cancelled"?
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| I was stunned when I saw his selection.
How's he been doing ? Apparently Mitch Clark has been killing it for fev though he was dour on Saturday and he's only on month to month loan. I agree it seems mental we can just recall a guy on season long loan. Bradford wouldn't let us take Jy Hitchcox back any earlier. Wonder if you'll have James Green as a thank you for release big will.
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| RFL Operational Rules C1.2:18
"Any Loan (Whatever its Original Duration) May be Terminated after it Has Subsisted For 28 Days "
So the Loan Club can do what they want after 28 Days.Championship treated with utter Contempt again
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| It's up the the club who loans out the player to insert a recall clause after the first month, even with season loans.if Championship clubs aren't happy with it don't sign said player. Laithwaite and Butler-Fleming are at Bulls and York on season loans with no recall.
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| Hudd-Shay is going to have a meltdown when he reads this.
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| Quote ="Towns88"How's he been doing ?'"
Not exactly blown us away, but a solid settled team member. This dual reg with Cas isn't running smoothly at all. The only "super league class" contribution so far was Alex Foster in the first game at Fev, even though James Green has run hard in a couple of games.
Of the others, Hitchcox and Clare seemed uninterested and just stayed on the wing, and Springer (to say he's such a big lad) didn't run hard at all and added nothing. Ironically the best quality loanee (apart from Foster) has been Dan Murray who didn't even come from Cas.
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| If I understand it correctly apart from the first twenty eight days there is very little difference to D R.
From more learned people:
When a player is on season loan who picks up the wage tab, is it the loanee club or the loaner club. I suspect the loaner club since they have the recall option, and who does the player train with?
Still a bl@@dy shambles whatever the way.
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| Quote ="Jaffro"Hudd-Shay is going to have a meltdown when he reads this.'" Not really we all know and accept how loans work.No great loss anyway and if we can't recruit it's not stifling Sion Jones development as much.
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| That's what happens with Loans, we all know this/knew this could happen. Maher has impressed for me, sound defensively and regularly takes 3/4 men to put him down. Makes a minimum of 10 metres every carry and he's improved over the last month.
Hopefully we get Green, who also has impressed when he has played for us. Springer also did a good job, even if he didn't bust every tackle against Leigh, he certainly drew and attracted many defenders. I do wonder what some watch during games.
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| Quote ="Matt Baldwin"That's what happens with Loans, we all know this/knew this could happen. Maher has impressed for me, sound defensively and regularly takes 3/4 men to put him down. Makes a minimum of 10 metres every carry and he's improved over the last month.
Hopefully we get Green, who also has impressed when he has played for us. Springer also did a good job, even if he didn't bust every tackle against Leigh, he certainly drew and attracted many defenders. I do wonder what some watch during games.'"
Can't disagree with that MB and Maher put in some big minutes lately when he was on.
It will be interesting how he goes for Cas if he does get a start, he's match fit, on form and done well in the Championship so he's in as good a position to step up to the challenge of SL as he'll get, can he do it??.
May well play a part in his longer term future.
The answer to the last question is.
Some watch for the next thing to moan about whether or not there's any substance to it.
As Jangles says, it will give Sion Jones who has also impressed further chances and of course Adam to get more up to speed.
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| Quote ="faxcar"
Some watch for the next thing to moan about whether or not there's any substance to it.
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"Hope that wasn't prophetic as the latest rumour would cause the mother of all moans.....'"
Aye sadly.
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| Well, that lasted long. Back in the team for the weekend but on DR.
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| Quote ="triran"Well, that lasted long. Back in the team for the weekend but on DR.'"
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| He means Mahar...QLT refused to play at Batley...a real kick in the teeth after what the supporters did to welcome him.
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| Will Maher not in the playing 17 tonight.
Should be okay to play for us instead.
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| Quote ="dazednconfused"Will Maher not in the playing 17 tonight.
Should be okay to play for us instead.'"
Good, but were up against when we cant play Maher when Mr Powell gets the jitters or our other stand out forward Fleming suddenly becomes a Toronto favourite again, and they are both good enough and big enough for that to happen. RM is doing a fine job with them both, i feel very sad for Richard that his hands are tied like this, sign em both if possible.
Were relying on people who historically have not had rock solid friendships with Fax here, they are using us to develop their players then potentially pulling the rug from under us, we, Rugby deserves better than these leaky conflicted player switch shenanigans, there should be more in place from the RFL to protect players and smaller Clubs here. If they are on a loan for a season, it should bind, if its for a month it should bind. If not just call the Championship the Reserves comp and put it out to tender for franchises.
Custodians of the game, my Iestyn Harris.
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| Dan Fleming is our player isn't he? Contracted until the end of next year?
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| Quote ="Matt Baldwin"Dan Fleming is our player isn't he? Contracted until the end of next year?'"
This whole DR Loan thing really takes some keeping track of doesn’t it
He’s a Halifax lad, but doesn’t play for us when we play Toronto, so would assume he is not on our books just yet. Rowley and Powell both have a hold over Richard i do not like, although i very much admire Richards professionalism here.
I’m surprised Daryl Powel hasn’t put a clause in that he will only give us decent players as long as we finish below Fev, but then again he can just recall players stick them in the stands and do us over that way, or unsettle the squad by paying them a hundred quid more than us for someone to carry water on tv for them.
Out of all the forwards we have ‘borrowed’ Maher and Fleming are in my eyes keepers, the SL clubs can come and buy them anytime, but Fax and them both would have a bit more stability and security. Toronto will be SL so include them in this.
Realistically this season could be our last chance for some time to play against SL sides, hence my concern Richard is not getting a fair crack at it.
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| Quote ="Matt Baldwin"Dan Fleming is our player isn't he? Contracted until the end of next year?'"
Yes, he is.
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| Have to query this one, why didn’t he play against Toronto then, if he is our player with clauses, he’s not really our player. And the DR Loans are worthless name tags for borrowing or reserve grade rugby.
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| Zoo if we get in the top 8can Fleming play against Toronto? Even if his contract says he can’t we should play him.
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| Just remind me how the Barlow thing went a few years ago ......
If you agree a player can't play, don't play him.
If you're not prepared to accept the terms, don't sign him.
It's an integrity thing. Stick by your word. Be a man.
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| If QLT was to come back now on dual reg can he play against Toronto in the middle 8s as is contract is not with Halifax
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| Quote ="hooligan27"If QLT was to come back now on dual reg can he play against Toronto in the middle 8s as is contract is not with Halifax'" Don't think anyone knows if these stupid clauses extend to the middle eights or not.Suppose we'll find out if we get there with Fleming.As for QLT don't think he'll ever return and to be honest he's about as welcome as Mike Riley taking photos from the in goal area .
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