Let's leave the nonsense from the Bradford Bell Ends behind and talk about Fax.

I'm in Surrey and just finished work so clearly can't make tonight's forum. Can anyone gives us a précis when it's finished?

Cheer ear, Freddie

anybody go? what was said?

I couldn't attend myself but do understand the meeting got so heated that the fire brigade had to attend.

Gareth Baigent appointed on executive committee.His main task is to better
relations between Fax and Town.This gets my seal of approval.

As regular reades will know I have never posted a negative comment about us on this board, so I will refrain from commenting on this venture but wish Mr Baigent every success.

Main points from memory before the fire alarm went off were:

1.Marshall tasked with top four finish
2.Fax looking at' link' with a SL club and clubs below to have players play for us if it 'suits Halifax' and loan our fringe players respectively.(My guess is Hull KR for the SL club( but that's not been delivered by Fax)
3. Fax pay £52k for annual rent. Shaymen pay £36k annual rent.
4. Scoreboard won't happen unless Fax and Shaymen share cost.
5. Approximately 30 odd tickets left for Summer Bash in North Stand and approximately 90 tickets left for West Stand
6.Big push on linking up with local clubs and possibly have some of the forums or functions at these clubs.
7.Nominated fax player to be linked with each local club
8. Fax currently training 4 times a week and working on more 'flair' rugby.
9. 'Team Halifax RLFC- was the management speak to all of us both on and off the field getting behind the club and spreading the word.
10. Same person who lit the fire at Warrington in Fax stand in Grand Final was at it again last night in the Fax East stand



Hope this helps those that wanted more information.
PS Fax TV to continue with Huddersfield Uni taking over the delivery from PJ(who did a great job) I think they are trying to go down the Leigh TV route and get some revenue if they get enough interest etc.

Sounds O.K. so long as the 2nd one doesn't come off!

Think its fantastic that the club are involving fans in this way.

Think all the points are good, particularly linking with local sides.

Only issue is point 2, I really feel we should steer clear of dual reg. Especially as I dont see Hull KR as a good enough side to have reserves that would benefit us.

Agreed, KR could very well be in the middle 8, hopefully alongside ourselves so how we would benefit is a big question, in fact if that is the scenario it would have potentially weakened us for the end if the season.

I wish the club would hurry up and let us know if they are to have a link/dual reg with a SL club. Some of us need to know whether to purchase summer bash tickets, book hotels, buy new replica etcetera.

So are you saying if we do you won't do any of those things?

Yes.

Let me get this straight, will you stop supporting Fax?

Fax will always be my team, they have been for over fifty years. But yes I will stop supporting them if they go dual reg. I will stop attending games, stop our small sponsorships, stop our purchasing at the club shop and stop my cashfax support. When they see the error of their ways when it all ends in tears, as it inevitability will, IF they go down the dr line we will be back supporting OUR club. The real sad thing about this ludicrous scenario is it won't be just my family who feel they won't be able to support the club if they go down this route, as I know of four other supporters who feel they couldn't follow the club of they choose to go dual reg. These fans are no fair weather supporters, they are long standing dyed in the wool Fax fans. The club needs to look long and hard about which way forward they want to go.

Cutting your nose off to spite your face? The club are talking about links with a SL club (for our benefit) and links with a Champ 1 club (for our benefit) Are you one of the people who said you'd be happy if we had links with a champ1 club to help our younger players. If you are that's just double standards.

This season coming will be one of the best in years and our league is going to be a difficult one to make it into the top 4. I'm not overly happy with DR as a concept but if our club do use it and we manage it correctly it could be of great benefit to HRLFC. You are still supporting Fax, giving your money to Fax, wearing the Blue and white of Fax, supporting the club and players of Halifax. None of your revenue will go to any other club whether its a champ 1 or SL. In fact all you will do is take away much needed revenue from the club you love and have supported for over 50 years.
As I said Cutting your nose off to spite your face. Its very sad you feel that way.

Taking your bat home is for kids.

Well said!
The club are doing everything in there powers to try and level a very unlevel playing field.

I agree that it is sad that I feel this way, indeed Mrs Hudd-Shay mentioned this point to ne but that's the way it is. I don't agree with having a link with a Championship one club, as I have stated on here in the past I don't want Fax to have owt to do with the whole sorry mess that DR is. Halifax RLFC are founder members of The Rugby League. We are not some pit village in Wakefield or Wigan and should ve above all this. The bottom line is I don't want to go down The Shay or away on a Sunday and see some other clubs players playing for Fax for the benefit of the other club and like it or not that is the only reason a SL club would want to link up with us. That's a fact.

The reality is we are a freefall club struggling on gates that have dropped from a regular
8000 to 1250.While i am against DR personally(with super league not champ 1-I'm a double standarder)i would not stop supporting the club because of decisions that the club make which are deemed to be of benefit.Come the day we merge with the dulls and play at odsal then i feck off to Siddal.

You clearly are a true and passionate support of our club. For the past few seasons Fax have not entered into DR and I am very proud our club didn't. However the RFL introduces ideas policies and an infrastructure that is geared up to benefit the top tear clubs while letting everything below wither and nearly die. Next season we will be playing in a tougher league than ever before with full time teams and 2 ex-SL teams. If we succeed and get into the top 4 we can then watch Fax play against SL teams. I find this very exciting. However I think with a part time squad (however good they are) we may struggle to reach the top 4 of our regular season. If we are DR with a club and it is managed well and it helps us achieve our goals then we should support the club in that decision.
We will only be working within the guidelines of what the RFL have set down.

You don't have to like or agree with DR. You don't have to like or agree with Halifax being DR if this is what happens. But one thing is true and that is HRLFC, YOUR club will be worse off because your not at the match.

Fair points Ian but not enough, in my opinion, to justify the club selling its soul. P.S. a bit early I know, but I have been talking to Big Daddy (Gilly)

about a Christmas Eve wander with the lads if you fancy it.

I'm in,no pussying off after 3 pints though.

I would support the club even if it had a squad of 18 Aussies.

It was stressed at the meeting that the DR link up would only happen if it was in our best interests. Halifax RL would not allow the SL club to use us to get players returning from injury match fit (the example given at the meeting was Adrian Morley turning out for Swinton).
The link up with a lower club would allow players such as Joe Martin, who may initially struggle to hold down a first team position, the opportunity to get some game time. Halifax appear to be (temporarily at least) ditching the U20s this year.
I am against the principle of DR, but it is beginning to look as though we will get left behind if we don't look into getting some benefits from the system, especially considering that Richard Marshall has had the bulk of his squad chosen for him by Karl Harrison.

I have to agree with Mr Hudd-Shay. Dual Reg as long as it benefits. can anyone inform me of a lower league club that has benefited?
I can give you examples the other way. Hunslet - dual reg. 5 Rhinos, all decent players, Hood, Moore, Shinehorst etc, but still get relegated.
Swinton - Take various Warrington players throughout the season (including Briers and Morley!!!), and get relegated. Some of the best results for these clubs came when the DR players were recalled.
At the Forum on Monday the message was TEAM HALIFAX. all DR does is destroy teams & teamwork. Put yourself in the boots of our fringe players, training 4 nights a week and not getting a chance to play because of DR.
One of the worst 40 minuets down the Shay by the away team last season was the first half against Leigh. just before half time they withdrew their Wigan DR boys and replaced them with squad players and we all know what happend next. Shortly after that the Centurions announced DR did not work and would be going it alone.
DR goes against my principles and I don`t want to follow a team that feels it needs to go down that route