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| Bartercard enables member businesses to exchange goods and services with other member businesses without using cash or cash equivalents, or having to engage in the direct two-way swap of goods and/or service.
Sponsoring the rent ?
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| You appear to have logged onto the wrong site. Shaygirls are already discussing it (with their usual lack of knowledge)
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| You spend a lot of time on that site for a football hater Mr FM.
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| Whilst it's all a bit perplexing to me Bartercard have been sponsoring rugby league in Australia for while and been involved in a number of large events, I seem to remember them having large pitch logos for internationals so it does sound like they are high profile. Not sure how it benefits Fax as there is no money involved apparently but we can swap something or other.
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| They will charge fees for their service,so they will have funds to sponsor like any other company unless i'm missing the point.
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| "Fax join a reputable list of teams, including Hull F.C, Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton Wanderers and Charlton Athletic all of whom have Bartercard as a sponsor, Last year £40m was traded on Bartercard in the UK."
Part of the statement by Barter Card which the rabid Luddites choose to ignore.
I wonder if they print similar comments about their fellow "football" clubs.
I personally can't see the point of trying to look at their forums, they are a set of loud mouthed barrack room lawyers best suited to a sport where the majority of supporters, players, managers and certainly chairmen are quite frankly gutter snipes.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn""Fax join a reputable list of teams, including Hull F.C, Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton Wanderers and Charlton Athletic all of whom have Bartercard as a sponsor, Last year £40m was traded on Bartercard in the UK."
Part of the statement by Barter Card which the rabid Luddites choose to ignore.
I wonder if they print similar comments about their fellow "football" clubs.
I personally can't see the point of trying to look at their forums, they are a set of loud mouthed barrack room lawyers best suited to a sport where the majority of supporters, players, managers and certainly chairmen are quite frankly gutter snipes.
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Hull - run by a businessman plugging huge losses and trying to plug them with a knock down offer for the council owned ground.
Owls -£7m a year losses
Charlton - £5m a year losses
Bolton - £160m in debt
4 very badly run clubs that we'd happily slate on our forums. I wouldn't call any of them reputable clubs!
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"Not sure how it benefits Fax as there is no money involved apparently but we can swap something or other.'"
They've paid you in credits which you spend with other network members. Which if you buy stuff off them is fine. However, you may be limiting your supplier choice and as BC charge a transaction fee there are stories of businesses charging more to BC customers to cover the fees. Some members have also told tales of being invoiced if not spending the required number of credits per month.
If this is a sponsorship 'space' you've never utilised, and there are businesses that accept the credits that you can use, it might not be a bad thing. I just hope your commercial director has checked the T&Cs and hasn't been taken in by a salesman or you might end up paying your suppliers more and being invoiced by a sponsor.
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| Quote ="Danger_mouse"Hull - run by a businessman plugging huge losses and trying to plug them with a knock down offer for the council owned ground.
Owls -£7m a year losses
Charlton - £5m a year losses
Bolton - £160m in debt
4 very badly run clubs that =#0000FFwe'd happily slate on our forums. I wouldn't call any of them reputable clubs!'"
We would happily slate ? but haven't, What simple minded people you all must be if you have to slate other clubs.
Incidentally name any profesional club that is beyond reproach and isn't in debt.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"We would happily slate ? but haven't, What simple minded people you all must be if you have to slate other clubs.
Incidentally name any profesional club that is beyond reproach and isn't in debt.'"
Yes, if a club or governing body is acting in a manner that drags the game in to disrepute or endangers other clubs if have no problem criticising them. Were those on here criticising Fev for going DR last season 'simple minded' too?
Erm, Arsenal?
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| Quote ="Danger_mouse"Yes, if a club or governing body is acting in a manner that drags the game in to disrepute or endangers other clubs if have no problem criticising them. Were those on here criticising Fev for going DR last season 'simple minded' too?
Erm, Arsenal?'"
Out of your depth.
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| he has a point though
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| what is it with the lowlifes that follow the Soccer club. I couldnt care less what that club do let alone go to such lengths like Bubba and co to find out how the club is doing and looking in to sponsors and directors records etc of a club and sport I have no interest in. Shame these lowlifes have such a poor life that they have to go around making up stories and thinking they are the fountain of all knowledge when really they know jack.
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| Quote ="Danger_mouse"Yes, if a club or governing body is acting in a manner that drags the game in to disrepute or endangers other clubs if have no problem criticising them. Were those on here criticising Fev for going DR last season 'simple minded' too?
Erm, Arsenal?'" Mousey....Go eat some cheese. ...preferably attached to a trap! Sportsman, shudds. Ilkley, Mary Jane 3.5% Mmm!
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| Quote ="Danger_mouse"Yes, if a club or governing body is acting in a manner that drags the game in to disrepute or endangers other clubs if have no problem criticising them. Were those on here criticising Fev for going DR last season 'simple minded' too?
Erm, Arsenal?'"
You must have slated the old Halifax Town to buggery then.
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| My God I am sick of Town fans coming on here spouting off with a view about everything we do and always negative stuff never about anything positive you may notice just sod off will you and stick to your own club which I also support like many others and will be there on Sunday, you just want a pop at Fax all the bl*8dy time its BORING.
Would you like us lot spouting anti Shaymen things on your site all the time???
No.
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| Quote ="Danger_mouse"They've paid you in credits which you spend with other network members. Which if you buy stuff off them is fine. However, you may be limiting your supplier choice and as BC charge a transaction fee there are stories of businesses charging more to BC customers to cover the fees. Some members have also told tales of being invoiced if not spending the required number of credits per month.
If this is a sponsorship 'space' you've never utilised, and there are businesses that accept the credits that you can use, it might not be a bad thing. I just hope your commercial director has checked the T&Cs and hasn't been taken in by a salesman or you might end up paying your suppliers more and being invoiced by a sponsor.'"
Thanks for that, as I said it's all a bit perplexing but hopefully they won't be going into it with their eyes closed.
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| They used to sponsor us, then we went into admin..........
just sayin.....
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Mousey....Go eat some cheese. ...preferably attached to a trap! Sportsman, shudds. Ilkley, Mary Jane 3.5% Mmm!'"
Ohhhh, i'm sure i know a song about her LOL
3.5% mmmm, session ale
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| Quote ="Danger_mouse"Hull - run by a businessman plugging huge losses and trying to plug them with a knock down offer for the council owned ground.
Owls -£7m a year losses
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Bolton - £160m in debt
4 very badly run clubs that we'd happily slate on our forums. I wouldn't call any of them reputable clubs!'"
Charlton have a new owner as of 13/14 season. Last financial reports were done before that. Club's holding companies have -£11m and +12m. Owner is worth half a billion.
Last season Addicks used Bartercard to install 5000 new seats in stadium and relay the pitch. All done as a trade off for sponsorship, all VAT paid is reclaimed by the club in cash, so no VAT on any of those improvements. Excellent sponsor.
But yeah, slate away.
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| Quote ="Trustafox"Charlton have a new owner as of 13/14 season. Last financial reports were done before that. Club's holding companies have -£11m and +12m. Owner is worth half a billion.
Last season Addicks used Bartercard to install 5000 new seats in stadium and relay the pitch. All done as a trade off for sponsorship, all VAT paid is reclaimed by the club in cash, so no VAT on any of those improvements. Excellent sponsor.
But yeah, slate away.'"
Me stating Charlton was a badly run club was an aside to the sponsor issue, with regards to BC claiming they weren't. A club losing millions per season is not well run just because the owner has deep pockets. Are Chelsea well run because they lose millions every year and are propped up by a rich man? What happens if the owner walks away? What happens if the owner loads debt on the club or takes ownership of assets like the ground to cover the investment?
And I see your point about the seats and the pitch, but why couldn't they have had that done and paid cash of they'd had a sponsor paying them cash? How do you know if they got best value using this payment method rather than cash?
Has the tax man signed off on that VAT arrangement, as if you read about BC you'll see a common complaint is the salesmen claim it'll all be VAT free but the tax office think differently! (Insert own joke about football club's dealings with the tax man here.)
If you read my other post explaining how BC works I've said it might not be a bad thing to get paid this way, if the club has the right circumstances to spend the credits and the person signing the deal has read the small print.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Mousey....Go eat some cheese. ...preferably attached to a trap! Sportsman, shudds. Ilkley, Mary Jane 3.5% Mmm!'"
You're having a shocker with that one.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"They used to sponsor us, then we went into admin..........
just sayin.....
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...again!
One of Omar's that one.
Arguing with fans of the local football club about issues revolving around the clubs' ground. This could be the Huddersfield Forum or our forum. At least Huddersfield and Halifax play at the same ground as the local football team.
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| The Soccer Grubs cant keep away. You dont have any interest in the Rugby Club so bugger off. I couldnt give a stuff what the Ballet dancers do and have no reason to go and comment on their forum. Maybe they have no life to lead
Good to see different companys come on board and not just local ones neither. Sounds like a few more sponsors are backing the club this year which can only be good. The club needs more money coming in from whatever source.
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