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| DS Security, who have a reputation for their, lets say "heavy handed" tactics, when working on the doors around the nightclubs of Halifax.
Something to do with complying with the CMBC Health & Safety certificate apparently.
They're surely not needed unless we're playing Fev. If they are, do we actually need to employ as many safety stewards? Are the council paying for this contract or the club? Unneccesary added costs to the Shay Payroll in my opinion.
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| Couple of them stood at the back of the South Stand for a short spell during the York game for seemingly no apparent reason. They got some very strange "what the heck are you doing here?" looks.
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| That was not for no reason. They were there to escort one of the people in the courier photo line-up to the waiting police.
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| They have been at the football friendlies as well. 4 bouncers just stood there in a crowd of 800 doing absolutely f**k all.
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| Some on here dont half talk total crapola, They are damned if they do and damned if they dont.
If you have done nothing wrong then there isn't a problem and i would prefer some security guards who know how to handle themselves and do actually get stuck in than some muppet than can hardly spell there own name and are probably employed on minimum wages to show a presence but dont do anything when they are needed.
I for one the people who have got a decent security firm in. At least the club or stadium whoever is responsible for this is seen to be doing something and actually getting one of the 8 in the photos taken to task by the police. Perhaps other clubs could follow this example.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"Some on here dont half talk total crapola, They are damned if they do and damned if they dont.
If you have done nothing wrong then there isn't a problem and i would prefer some security guards who know how to handle themselves and do actually get stuck in than some muppet than can hardly spell there own name and are probably employed on minimum wages to show a presence but dont do anything when they are needed.
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the people who have got a decent security firm in. At least the club or stadium whoever is responsible for this is seen to be doing something and actually getting one of the 8 in the photos taken to task by the police. Perhaps other clubs could follow this example.'"
I suppose they can't be any worse than that trumped up Scottish head stewardess who paces up and down the front of the east stand barking out orders down her walkie-talkie & pointing up and down and shouting at stewards when they've done nothing wrong.
Theres another steward that looks like hes come out of an asylum & they employed a blind steward a few years back, and a steward that needed a walking stick, I kid you not!
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| Got to agree I feel safer with those guys about than a normal steward ,one was given a bit of a shout on Sunday as he has bought a B&B in Blackpool . Had a bit of a smile to myself as I wouldn`t want him towering over me telling me to eat my greens or I couldn`t go out and play.
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| i did wonder about this myself.
if Featherstone employed bounsers like this they could have saved themselves alot of trouble, and embarassment for both clubs.
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| Anybody heard who was taken in by the Police. Thought that was the situation when it was happening.
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| There was someone escorted under the stand but 5 minutes later he was back up there. Don't know if he was removed again after that
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| Quote ="Blue&White84"There was someone escorted under the stand but 5 minutes later he was back up there. Don't know if he was removed again after that'"
As far as I know, the police took their details and let them on their way, doesnt mean they won't speak to them again though.
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| Quote ="Brew"As far as I know, the police took their details and let them on their way, doesnt mean they won't speak to them again though.'"
I'm sure "self-defence" is not a crime. I trust the alleged perpetrator cleared that up with the local constabulary.
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| I wonder what I could moan about today...errr....I know measures..... I will moan at people who make efforts in making the club safer and following the rules set out by the governing bodies!!!!! I will also moan without any real understanding and without any facts....
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| Looked very much like they were escorting a couple of people out of Skircoat stanbd at last nights game.
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Apparently they're there as there are bars serving alcohol and its a legal requirement. That will explain why at Rugby they still have a Steward stood on the door of the South Stand bar and the Gorillas stand about at the front of the stand in pairs,
Claims they made the situation on saturday worse from some fans, denied by some Fella from The Shay, well he has to say that doesnt he!
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Apparently they're there as there are bars serving alcohol and its a legal requirement. That will explain why at Rugby they still have a Steward stood on the door of the South Stand bar and the Gorillas stand about at the front of the stand in pairs,
Claims they made the situation on saturday worse from some fans, denied by some Fella from The Shay, well he has to say that doesnt he!
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| They should put 'em to good use & make the club money by standing outside the junior turnstiles. Its well known that quite a few of the away fans at the football "try it on" and go through the kids gate & often get away with it, as they are full of ale & the bloke on the gate or the steward doesn't want the bother.
As in my original post, these guys can be heavy-handed as seen on Saturday. They are effectively nightclub doormen & can't wait for some biff to happen.
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| From a Corby fan on Courier website
[iFirst and foremost I'd like to thank the Halifax fans that I met in the pub before the game and the ones in and around the stadium, they were top class and a credit to the club. Having done a bit of research i have found out the the firm of bouncers (because that's what they are) are owned and run by a local business man, now this business man must have some first class contacts at this paper because this article has been very selective of the facts. The bouncers were overly aggressive and very confrontational to the away support from the kick off. The main scuffle that happened in the stadium was caused by the bouncers who deemed it an offence to celebrate a goal being caused. I personally witnessed a 14 year old Corby supporter being put in a 'choke hold' by an industry approved meat head. There's very little trouble in this league and very little in the way of segregation, so why is this needed at Halifax? My suggestion is that its the industry approved meat heads who heightened tensions so much that it lead to a altercation between two sets of fans. Also the Corby fan wasn't ejected for using abusive language, he was ejected because the meat heads felt like it. My only surprise is that it's taking them this long to get their story straight, proof that steroids don't increase brain capacity[/i
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| From town fan site, seems I'm not the only one who isn't too keen on these people
[iThat article is typical Courier e - basically a load of .
Surely we can employ anyone but these thugs in suits. [/i
[iI don't think fans need to be segregated at all. Maybe if a team is going to bring 200 or so down, or its a cup game, but as a general rule, teams like Colwyn, Bishops, Histon etc... are going to rarely bring more than double figures.
It seems this firm of thugs are trying to justify throwing people out and acting like dicks, and talk themselves in to having a purpose. If we must have extra security/stewards at the Shay then so be it, but surely we don't have to use a company that has such a history of being overly aggressive, nasty and thuggish. The amount of criticism that they have come in for, not just at the football, but in how they run every event they are involved in, should be a massive red flag to those at the club. WE DONT WANT THESE THUGS IN OUR GROUND. Employ another firm please.
Its bad enough we have the thiefs running the East Stand food, nevermind having to put up with these tw&s as well[/i
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| It's a shame that they did'nt throw McDermot & O'Connor out during the Widnes game for being a pair
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| Quote ="jeffvickers" They are effectively nightclub doormen & can't wait for some biff to happen.'"
I sense you have some issues with doorstaff in general mate...
I know the firm and the lads you are talking about. In fact I worked for them for several years and in the most part they are a good bunch of lads, paid to do a thankless and hard job. One that 90% + couldn't and/or wouldn't do.
I too am "effectively a nightclub doormen". To generalise in the way you have been says to me you have very little understanding about what your talking about...
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| Quote ="maverick"
I too am "effectively a nightclub doorman".'"
You lookin' at me squire? Come on then. . . . .
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| Quote ="littlerich"You lookin' at me squire? Come on then. . . . .'"
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| Quote ="maverick"I sense you have some issues with doorstaff in general mate...
I know the firm and the lads you are talking about. In fact I worked for them for several years and in the most part they are a good bunch of lads, paid to do a thankless and hard job. One that 90% + couldn't and/or wouldn't do.
I too am "effectively a nightclub doormen". To generalise in the way you have been says to me you have very little understanding about what your talking about...'"
I work Leeds and felt offended by the comments. We are not all bad (or on steroids!), I'm a really nice bloke I am.
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| My husband is a nightclub doorman and both of us were offended by this post.
I know the 'meatheads/bouncers/nightclub bouncers' personally and can say they are nothing like what is being wrote about them.
In fact last weekend 34 doormen from the Acca & DS Security played each other in a charity football match raising money for my husband doing the Great North Run for Starlight Childrens Foundation. Many had worked till 6am in the morning, played the match at lunchtime and then went to steward at The Shay in the afternoon before working again that evening......... So far from the picture that Jeff Vickers is posting of these Gents.
I am a Bulls supporter but have friends that play at Fax and from what I have heard and witnessed at matches you need a proper security firm instead of the useless stewards that cant control anything. The language at The Shay is far worse than ive heard in many rugby grounds especially when there are so many children present so I think its a good thing having DS Security there.
And for the record not every doorman or big guy takes steroids.......some people just train hard and work hard
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