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I guess that most of you on this forum feel exactly like we, the Board of Directors do, in that not only did we not get a franchise, but that at least one team who's complete disregard of the "rules" set out by the RFL some three years ago, seems to have not mattered a jot to the powers that be at the RFL.
Halifax RLFC and to a large extent Calderdale Council took those "rules" as being important. Together with FC Halifax, we all have helped build a stadium in Halifax which not only meets those apparant RFL "rules" but in my view at least is a better facility than a number in Super League. Indeed the comments from those Super League teams who have played here this season support that view.
We told the RFL as part of our bid, that we were going to run our Club within the budgets we had, or that we might aspire to if we were given a franchise, and that we thought it financially imprudent to suggest that we could bring in a sugar daddy millionaire to inflate our financial standing(as some Clubs have done to the extent that a number of Club financial failures can be attributed to that one man sponsor having financial difficulties himself). For the last few years we have been running our Club to at least break even.
I have seen on TV tonight that Ralph Rimmer suggested that he had already spoken to Tony Abbott one of our Directors, who is currently out of the country on holiday. He did make such a short call. . . I dont think I can say just yet the supposed reason he gave why we were unsuccesful, but to say that I'm personally angry is an understatement
For a senior person at the RFL to say that our bid wasn't as good as some Clubs who bids dont seem to have even met the so called "rules" is not good enough
That we have spent the last three years aspiring to something that has been dismissed in this way is disappointing, not just for our Club but for any other Championship team who might have similar aspirations
Michael Steele our Chairman has put a statement on the Club's web site at
www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article.php?id=5473
I suggest its worth reading
Our Club has four Directors none of us are millionaires as perhaps the RFL might prefer, but we all work for nothing, indeed it obviously costs us all a good deal of money to help run the Club. On days like these I have to say that putting the bid together cost a good deal of time effort and money and it seems to me as if it was all a complete waste of those three resources.
Its difficult right now to believe that I personally would want to go through this exercise again in three years and to be honest its a view that seems shared by several other Championship teams' officials, judging by the phone calls we have received today.
However I am a Halifax fan first and foremost. so it is disappointing to read on other forums that many of our fans have now said they will stop supporting Fax as a gesture to the RFL.
I'd rather show the RFL a different gesture, by winning the Grand Final! and just letting them see what they've missed by this decision.
So disappointed as we all are, hopefully tomorrow we can think again, get behind the team, and lets not make the RFLs decision seem justified
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I guess that most of you on this forum feel exactly like we, the Board of Directors do, in that not only did we not get a franchise, but that at least one team who's complete disregard of the "rules" set out by the RFL some three years ago, seems to have not mattered a jot to the powers that be at the RFL.
Halifax RLFC and to a large extent Calderdale Council took those "rules" as being important. Together with FC Halifax, we all have helped build a stadium in Halifax which not only meets those apparant RFL "rules" but in my view at least is a better facility than a number in Super League. Indeed the comments from those Super League teams who have played here this season support that view.
We told the RFL as part of our bid, that we were going to run our Club within the budgets we had, or that we might aspire to if we were given a franchise, and that we thought it financially imprudent to suggest that we could bring in a sugar daddy millionaire to inflate our financial standing(as some Clubs have done to the extent that a number of Club financial failures can be attributed to that one man sponsor having financial difficulties himself). For the last few years we have been running our Club to at least break even.
I have seen on TV tonight that Ralph Rimmer suggested that he had already spoken to Tony Abbott one of our Directors, who is currently out of the country on holiday. He did make such a short call. . . I dont think I can say just yet the supposed reason he gave why we were unsuccesful, but to say that I'm personally angry is an understatement
For a senior person at the RFL to say that our bid wasn't as good as some Clubs who bids dont seem to have even met the so called "rules" is not good enough
That we have spent the last three years aspiring to something that has been dismissed in this way is disappointing, not just for our Club but for any other Championship team who might have similar aspirations
Michael Steele our Chairman has put a statement on the Club's web site at
www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article.php?id=5473
I suggest its worth reading
Our Club has four Directors none of us are millionaires as perhaps the RFL might prefer, but we all work for nothing, indeed it obviously costs us all a good deal of money to help run the Club. On days like these I have to say that putting the bid together cost a good deal of time effort and money and it seems to me as if it was all a complete waste of those three resources.
Its difficult right now to believe that I personally would want to go through this exercise again in three years and to be honest its a view that seems shared by several other Championship teams' officials, judging by the phone calls we have received today.
However I am a Halifax fan first and foremost. so it is disappointing to read on other forums that many of our fans have now said they will stop supporting Fax as a gesture to the RFL.
I'd rather show the RFL a different gesture, by winning the Grand Final! and just letting them see what they've missed by this decision.
So disappointed as we all are, hopefully tomorrow we can think again, get behind the team, and lets not make the RFLs decision seem justified
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Great post Mr. Riley, and thanks for all your efforts with the bid.
To say I'm disillusioned right now with rugby league is an massive understatement, but I'll never give up on Halifax.
I firmly believe the the franchising system is a good thing for rugby league. However the problem lies in those making the decisions on who should get a license and who shouldn't.
Sad day for rugby league today.
C'mon Fax.
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fantastic Mike, i aplaud you.
Real fans of Halifax know just how much time, effort and money you guys put into our club. and from speaking to you on just afew occasions, i have left the conversation deeply touched at how much the club means to you personally. Its not just two fingers to Halifax, like you say this must have really shaken up the already plummiting opion of many below SL clubs!
i dont for one minute think Fax fans will stop supporting the team, but it is difficult to see where progression is going to come from, we as a club do everything we can....jump through hoops, quite clearly have a better case than some who have been awarded licences, and still no reward.
4 of my friends and i have purchased tickkets for the RFLs 3 'main events' this autumn, and i am gutted i have given them a penny! i wish i could give them back and give Halifax the £45!
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Good post Mike and thank you.
I am sure that some of the fans have said they will stop supporting as a "knee jerk" reaction. I hope that they do come to their senses and see that the only way to survive and make it even more difficult for the RFL is to keep supporting their club. If they decide to never attend any other RL events then that is up to them, but they SHOULD continue to support their own club.
I guess the players will also be as gutted as we and yourselves are, and I hope they vent their frustrations on the pitch on Saturday night with a performance worthy of Halifax RLFC.
It is a difficult job for the board now to keep the fans coming, to what seems to be a dead league, but it is also important that the board dont give up and continue their already good work, starting with the replacement of the Coach.....
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here here I will be supporting the club even more than ever and I hope more do the same
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Is there anyway the club can take legal action if backed by the fans.
I really hope there dont franchise the championship and fatty leaves it alone.
bring on warrington 2011 , Blackpool 2012
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i have already posted a thread on here about winning the GF AGAIN!!! and how the RFL would look even more incorrect with their decision.
what happens if Wakey havent installed a new burger van and some new portaloos by the season start 2012? oh thats right we dont know do we, us paying fans dont get to find out the 'truth'.
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The only consolation is that this outrage may help us out lots next time. Widnes springs to mind/
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The club cant take legal action but a group of fans can Im sure. Does anybody have some time to head it? I would happily contribute small amount of money to fees and I am sure many others will but I have barely any spare time to organise anything.
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What we need is a former player who is a solicitor to look into this for us ...... please Olly ......
There is no chance as our budget could not cope with the budget with the RFL - but if we had someone who could help us meet all the Court Deadlines etc I am sure there would be others who could dredge up loads of contradictory annoucements from the RFL with video footage to support such a case !!!!!
I am sure there was a sports legal expert on the so called independent panel though ....
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| Quote ="Knock On Nigel"The only consolation is that this outrage may help us out lots next time. Widnes springs to mind/'"
this is true, and this is what we have to grip onto, after all that hard work by the club, players and fans, it doesnt really seem a fair trade does it.
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I won't stop supporting Halifax because of this, that'd be daft. But if, as is widely rumoured, the Championship's TV rights are to be sold off to Premier Sports, I will not carry on with my Sky Sports subscription for the Super League.
The money you and the rest of the directors put in to the club is very much appreciated by the clubs supporters, and I for one would rather you spent that money in other areas of the club rather than playing the RFL's ridiculous games in 3 years times. I hope it doesn't get you guys down too much and that we bounce back to win the Grand Final and carry on being the Championships most successful club with an Under 23's squad to match!
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I have seen on TV tonight that Ralph Rimmer suggested that he had already spoken to Tony Abbott one of our Directors, who is currently out of the country on holiday. He did make such a short call. . . I dont think I can say just yet the supposed reason he gave why we were unsuccesful, but to say that I'm personally angry is an understatement
Mike R'"
Why cant you say yet what the reason is that we didnt get in? What is the mystery? If they gave a reason for us not getting then they arnt going to change it and i cant see the problems with posting it on here.
Just out of interest in the interview with RR he mentions that the RFL came to Halifax a couple of times and highlighted a couple of areas we needed to improve on recently, any chance of saying what those areas were? I also cant see why these cant be posted as the fans deserve to know.
I really hope this isnt just brushed under the table and the club sticks to their guns in the way Michael Steele has started today. If they dont then 3 years and peoples hard work has been for nothing and anyway what has the club got to lose? Its not like we have another chance of getting in especially with the average crowds lowering now Widnes arnt in and Crusaders probably will be. |
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Thank you mike for putting you and the clubs point of view. Like many others I will always support fax come what may . I am sure I speak for many when I say that I appreciate and applaud the work that you , the other directors , Sarah etc do in running our club. Thanks
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Great post and much appreciated. I'd also like to take back my post from earlier, I was just in an extremely angry place. I will struggle to get to a lot of games next year, but I will try and make it to as many as possible.
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You have my fullest support. In my eyes, you have done everything asked of you to enter Super League. It must be frustrating that your bid has not been successful.
However, I do hope that you are not bracketing my club (Castleford) as one of those who have broken promises. As a club we never, ever promised that we would be playing in a new stadium by 2012. What we did promise was "significant development" towards a new stadium (which was the RFL stipulation by 2011), which has being achieved with both outline and detailed planning permission being given for a stadium at Glasshoughton. Our obstacle now is to sell our current ground, which requires planning permission so a retail development can be built. We will need to overcome this obstacle and be playing at Glasshoughton by the next franchise application.
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I will be cotinuing my obsessive support of Fax and doing my best to contribute to Del Boy Powell's corner shop, but from now on, I will not contribute to any other matches the RFL are involved in until the gruesome twosome are no longer involved in the farce they have created.
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Its not that we didn't get a license, its that the process is fundamentally flawed, and to be honest, insulting.
Personally i think this has now gone beyond Halifax RLFC, this is a problem for RL's integrity and dignity.
I would like to know who the RFL are answerable to and accountable to, they are completely out of control and an embarassment to sport.
Anyone who wishes to pursue a meaningful, peaceful, intelligent and legal protest to this debacle has my full backing and support. For the good of our sport i'm afraid its down to fans now.
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That has to include any Grand Finals or NRC Final as the RFL take the gate receipts etc. Fat, greedy, lazy, cheating, good for nothing wan***s the luvvin lot of em
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I and many others are surprised that you didn't get a Super League licence for next season, but have no fears. There is no chance what so ever of Wakey having having a ground within 3 years. Remember that Wakey have been promising the RFL since 1999 that they willl have a new ground still we wait.
Don't lose the faith, your day in the sun will come soon.
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I very much doubt that we will ever get our day in the sun.
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I am a Wigan fan and I think can be reasonably objective about the franchise system.
IT IS A COMPLETE JOKE!
The morons at the RFL have some serious explaining to do. It's not that long ago that Widnes were kept out of SL because they went into admin. Why have Wakey been allowed to stay in, especially given their track record on the stadium front? I feel sorry for Wakey's fans, they've done nothing wrong, but clearly Fax should have been given a go in SL.
The whole thing is a farce. It's time a club challenged this decision making process in the courts and showed these total muppets up for what they are.
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You will trust me. If wakey and Cas are not in new stadiums in 2013 their out your in. Don't lose the faith.
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| Quote ="justthebasicfax"Its not that we didn't get a license, its that the process is fundamentally flawed, and to be honest, insulting.
Personally i think this has now gone beyond Halifax RLFC, this is a problem for RL's integrity and dignity.
I would like to know who the RFL are answerable to and accountable to, they are completely out of control and an embarassment to sport.
Anyone who wishes to pursue a meaningful, peaceful, intelligent and legal protest to this debacle has my full backing and support. For the good of our sport i'm afraid its down to fans now.'"
I myself have sent a short e-mail to Jason Mccartney MP who is on the All party committee for rugby league.He was another guest at a meeting I went to last year where he shared the forum with Rimmer and Robbie Paul both of whom were extoling the vitues of franchising he was not best pleased with them I can tell you.There are several of these MPs on that committee and I intend to contact them all as well as our local ones. I will not be knocking any other Club I will merely pointing out their undemocratic way of carrying on and be asking them if they can do anything about it.
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Just want to say a massive thanks to all at the club for the magnificent effort they put into the franchise bid.
The fact that the rfl continued to change criteria and were forced to wriggle to avoid making the hard decisions shows that our submission was very strong. Something which was undoubtedly unexpected from any Championship club when the rfl first came up with this proposterous idea.
Once again heartfelt thanks and keep up the good work.
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