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Halifax first duel reg is young lad Jacob Fairbanks from Huddersfield, seen him play before good forward running player let hope Huddersfield dont pick him too much.
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Halifax first duel reg is young lad Jacob Fairbanks from Huddersfield, seen him play before good forward running player let hope Huddersfield dont pick him too much.
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| Quote ="faxflyer25"www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article.php?id=2995
Halifax first duel reg is young lad Jacob Fairbanks from Huddersfield, seen him play before good forward running player let hope Huddersfield dont pick him too much.'"
The snag with the system is that, if he is outstanding for you, sooner or later the Giants will want him back. We had four good young DC players at Leigh last season, but two became SL regulars, and a third one went back to SL periodically.
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| Personally i do not like the dual registered system, Super League players should come on Loan deals, i do not like the fact that they can come in for a few games then go back play in SL then back down the next week, to me it makes a Mockery of Championship Teams.
However, its there and to ignore it whilst others use it is silly, Another Young lad in the team, I am feeling that so far the team we had last year is going to look unrecognisable at the min. Come on, Confirm if we have got black back next year.
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| never liked the dual reg. system.
but another good local lad signed on for the season.
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| Quote ="Alan"The snag with the system is that, if he is outstanding for you, sooner or later the Giants will want him back. We had four good young DC players at Leigh last season, but two became SL regulars, and a third one went back to SL periodically.'"
Yet all bar one qualified for playoffs for Leigh? I'd say you did pretty damn good out of it! At Widnes we only really saw Davies consistently but Wigan would decide last min to draft him in as 18th man or to play Crusaders and we'd be without which was a pain. Farrell ended up in Wigans starting line up so not a lot you can do there and Ainscough was shifted to a SL club once call came in!
You get better players out if it but it us a risk, though if you don't 'rely' on them it will be a good deal for 'Fax!
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| BAD BAD BAD move no matter how good or local the kid is.
Last season proved how crap dual reg is for championship clubs and I cant believe the powers that be would be daft enough to go down this path. What are we now, a feeder club for the midgets?
Sorry, but if this is the way the club wants to go forwards then they will suffer long term. I'm a fan of over 30 years and this move makes my blood boil. Surefire way of putting fans off as far as I am concerned. For those who think im being a little harsh, just read Alan's comment, they were bang on.
Boy thats got the week off to a crap start
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| Quote ="J20"=#FF0000Yet all bar one qualified for playoffs for Leigh? I'd say you did pretty damn good out of it! At Widnes we only really saw Davies consistently but Wigan would decide last min to draft him in as 18th man or to play Crusaders and we'd be without which was a pain. Farrell ended up in Wigans starting line up so not a lot you can do there and Ainscough was shifted to a SL club once call came in!
You get better players out if it but it us a risk, though if you don't 'rely' on them it will be a good deal for 'Fax!'"
That was stretching things! Yet another RFL 'rule' that seems to 'bend' as it develops. I guess it's a (comparatively) cheap option for we Championship clubs, yet it's heavily loaded in favour of the SL clubs - as you guys at Widnes found out!
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| Quote ="Fax Missionary"BAD BAD BAD move no matter how good or local the kid is.
Last season proved how crap dual reg is for championship clubs and I cant believe the powers that be would be daft enough to go down this path. What are we now, a feeder club for the midgets?
Sorry, but if this is the way the club wants to go forwards then they will suffer long term. I'm a fan of over 30 years and this move makes my blood boil. Surefire way of putting fans off as far as I am concerned. For those who think im being a little harsh, just read Alan's comment, they were bang on.
Boy thats got the week off to a crap start'"
I'm with you on this.
If we put dual registered players in the side (in the weeks when the owning club deem that they dont need them) surely it will disrupt the team, as it will put a player out for that particular week. Where do the dual registered players train? Is it with their parent club, or their second club? It is all disruptive and dis-jointed for me.
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| Quote ="Fax Missionary"BAD BAD BAD move no matter how good or local the kid is.
Last season proved how crap dual reg is for championship clubs and I cant believe the powers that be would be daft enough to go down this path. What are we now, a feeder club for the midgets?
Sorry, but if this is the way the club wants to go forwards then they will suffer long term. I'm a fan of over 30 years and this move makes my blood boil. Surefire way of putting fans off as far as I am concerned. For those who think im being a little harsh, just read Alan's comment, they were bang on.
Boy thats got the week off to a crap start'"
Think of it this way, as it stands he won't be a guranteed starter and your playing into RFL 'good books' if you want to get to SL you need to play the game and one or two dual regs to bulk up squad their no harm in. Ours looked bad mainly due to injuries elsewhere. But if fully fit squad most of the year you won't miss them when / if recalled. P.s.
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| P.s. It's not like hudds are short if backrowers next season!
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| Quote ="spanishbob"I'm with you on this.
If we put dual registered players in the side (in the weeks when the owning club deem that they dont need them) surely it will disrupt the team, as it will put a player out for that particular week. Where do the dual registered players train? Is it with their parent club, or their second club? It is all disruptive and dis-jointed for me.'"
Same as SL labs they'll train with parent club in the day and then Champ side at night (I guess do less SL day training in weeks when playing Champ rugby).
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| DR players does not benefit the championship club very well. Fev have opted out of the system.
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| I'm not a proponent of the DR system either. As has been mention previously, it makes a mockery of the squad when a lad from another club can come in as and when his parent club allows, and teams have suffered for this. Also, as has been mentioned, I think this is the way that 'feeder clubs' are going to start up. The RFL's little chat with Wayne Bennett a year or two back is slowly coming to fruition.
I have nothing against young Fairbanks, just the DR system.
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| Quote ="Alan"The snag with the system is that, if he is outstanding for you, sooner or later the Giants will want him back. We had four good young DC players at Leigh last season, but two became SL regulars, and a third one went back to SL periodically.'"
Perhaps it wasn't a good idea for you to sign 3 players from Warrington on dual reg who had already made multiple Super League appearances for them in previous seasons. It was always likely that they would be recalled on a regular basis. Most of the other clubs who used the scheme signed young kids who had little chance of breaking into their parent clubs first XVII's, which is the sensible way to go about things.
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| I think in the case of Jacob it will be more like a season loan deal. However I suspect Huddersfield wanted the option of recalling him at even shorter notice than a loan deal provides if they have an injury crisis. They will still be paying his wages remember..
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| Don't like the club going down the DR route. Do DR players have to be selected if available? Or is it at the discretion of the club to decide if we pick them or not?
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Don't like the club going down the DR route. Do DR players have to be selected if available? Or is it at the discretion of the club to decide if we pick them or not?'"
No, no obligations.
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| Very disappointing. DR signings are nothing but an admission that we are a feeder club. Why not a proper loan signing? I wish we would sign Fax lads who are free agents. I would hope Fax have no more DR signings.
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| Aha there can be no more mickey taking from you lot now.
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| Must admit im not a fan of this system, in essence the only way you get to keep a player is if they are playing poor, we saw with Kopzsack it didn't work, I can understand a couple of utility players, but it must unsettle sides, and you cant build a team round them, loan years fair enough. British RL has taken leave if its senses.
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| The problem is with DR currently in the system what SL side would not go for that over a normal loan? They are obviously going to cover themselves in case of a major injury crisis.
Widnes are in the tricky posistion as our loans always work out great for Wigan but not as great for us. So do we up the anti and say season loans or nothing, hoping with past success they go for it, or do we risk losing out on players they'd simply move to our rivals?
Worst thing about the system is (as usual) the RFL threw it in (initially for Quins & Skolars 2 years back) without thinking every rule through that led to a right mess. Simple way should be every monday morning the SL club decides if player will play for them at weekend or for Champ club and they have to stick with that no matter what.
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| Its SL and Red Hall setting ridicoulous rules, all they want is everyone beneath them to be a feeder club and a second string game. Well i have news for those twerps at Red Hall, the international side are garbage, the coach is useless, Wood and Lewis are buffoons and the standard of SL over the last few years has gone down, so whatever they are doing is tripe.
Good luck to Jacob though, hope it works out for him and Fax, one thing i will say though is dont listen to everyone involved in the game about initiatives, some RL folk aren't the smartest, its a contact sport, not Chess.
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| I hate doing this, defending the RFL, but I find the people that criticise them for implementing this system a little bit odd.
At the end of the day this is not a compulsory system. There are no quotas in place that have to be met. It is up to the club to take up the offer of a player in this way.
If it works then the Championship club potentially get a better quality of player than they might on a loan deal and if the player returns to the SL club for a spell then there is no need to renegotiate a new loan deal.
The SL club are in a position to offer the better quality players knowing they have an instant recall option and the players themselves get to benefit from playing.
You can see it being of great benefit to some of the smaller clubs in the league particularly.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Aha there can be no more mickey taking from you lot now.'"
They will all conform eventually
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| Good to have a local lad with us next season. But I am not a big fan of the DR system at all.
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