Halifax are a bigger and better club than Batley IMO.
Simple, it's my opinion and I am entitled to it, Batley have less money, a pitch
Only cheese rollers would be jealous off, poor crowds, a certain amount of what seems bitter fans( Harold shandy bass ). We get further in most cups, playoffs and leagues, have been to 3 finals in 3 years, poached you coach and players, because they want to be at a bigger better club. Can attract good sponsors and people like noble.

We will ALWAYS be better than Batley, because I am a fax fan first and foremost!.
Now toddle off to tell tales on your inferior total RL site

All these anti-Fax Batley supporters are going to be shaking with excitement after your post!

Exactly!! I don't care about there opinions, I am excited about running away with the league next year and getting the treble, we can then build for SL in the knowledge we have already been told we are in, we can then cherry pick a few of kears signings to a bigger better club. All this whilst Batley and dewsbury chew chunks off each other, they will never notice because they are just a speck of dust in the RL world and we are on par with top NRL teams.

They ask for it really the stupid sods!.

Arrogant.

You missed of our fantastic Blackpool 9's win.
Need to do more research in future before posting.

The thing is if your gonna act with a bit of arrogance taking their best players off them and saying 'their alright' despite finishing 3 spots above you, naturally their gonna be a bit peeved... Same with Sheffield fans previously tbh!

I can understand why Batley dislike Fax as they are arrogant.Wonder if Fax with 2100 averages are within the cap.The players they have signed will want the wonga.

As you should well know, 1 season does not define who you are as a club.

Off the cuff, it was said as a wind up, if they must troll and come up with childish comments on their forum then at least they now have something to put. Arrogant, not at all, sarcastic, certainly !!

How long exactly have you been a fan? Well in the last 25 years Fax have achieved

1 Challenge Cup Final winners (1987)
1 Challenge Cup final Runners Up (198icon_cool.gif
1 Regal Trophy Runners Up (1990)
1 Northern Rail Cup Runners Up (2011)
1 League Champions Trophy (1985)
1 Championship Grand Final Runners Up (2009)
1 Championship Grand Final Winners (2010)
1 Premiership Runners Up (1986)
1 2nd Division Premiership Runners up (1991)
Charity Shield Winners (1986)
Charity Shield Runners up (1987)

What has Batley achieved? You won a Cup that is treated by many as a joke even coaches. Now looking at the record over the last 25 years Fax are easily the most successful side outside of SL. Infact even looking at the past 5 years with 3 Final appearances and a win we are with Featherstone the most successful sides.

Lets see what average crowds you lot get over the years
2011 HALIFAX= 2096 (3rd in the League) BATLEY= 1098
2010 HALIFAX= 2509 (2nd in the League) BATLEY= 1058
2009 HALIFAX= 2325 (2nd in the League) BATLEY= 895
2008 HALIFAX= 2217 (3rd in the League) BATLEY= 1030
2007 HALIFAX= 1959 (4th in the League) BATLEY= 1120


So Crowd wise Fax in the past 5 years alone have been one of the big clubs regarding attendances whilst Batley struggle to get more than a 1000. That means Fax have more money coming in through the gate!

Lets see the League Positions
2011 HALIFAX 6th BATLEY 3rd (Batley)
2010 HALIFAX 2nd BATLEY 7th (Halifax)
2009 HALIFAX 2nd BATLEY 8th (Halifax)
2008 HALIFAX 3rd BATLEY 9th (Halifax)
2007 HALIFAX 3rd BATLEY 8th (Halifax)

So only one season have Batley finished higher

If ail to see how Batley fans can get so upset when their club has not won or even reached as many finals as Fax have and never will. Batley get around half the crowd Fax do and have far less money as well yet they seem to think Halifax are not bigger than themselves. Try looking at the facts that Halifax alongside Featherstone are the most powerful clubs on and off the field in this league with Widnes gone. The likes of Batley are smaller and will remain so as Featherstone and Halifax are simply bigger clubs with more power and pull in way bigger crowds and sponsorship money. Batley fans get that chip off your shoulder and enjoy your most successful period since probably 100 years ago!

Mate I know your the bigger club.Fax,Leigh and Fev have the most fans now.But I think Leigh will be not as strong next year.I think Fax look the strongest.

Fev first then Fax at the moment. Settled team and coaching system. Only lost 3 games in the League in the past 2 seasons. Fax are still for me some way behind Fev both on and off the field. Fev have a very successful youth system in place as well. Then there is daylight to Batley and Sheffield who are still some way behind Fev and Fax in many areas

Feisty this thread!

Thank God it's not just me who can't stand them. They pontificate about how well run they are with their 500 fans and $hihole of a ground, no reserve team and no hope except survival.

And got knocked out of the playoffs by a team not only below them in the league ladder but on on their own turf as well.

As for Graeme Smith's comments, well, all the negativities that you speak of are true but being a fan of a club that's overcome those obstacles gives one a certain thick skin. I dare say that overcoming the bad times you speak of has made us stronger as a group of fans and as a club in general so the 'arrogance' that you mentioned I think is a belief that we can do well no matter what. I think a certain section of your support is arrogant because all of a sudden all of these people have seen it fit to slag everyone else of just because you've finally become competitive on the pitch in the last couple of seasons.

Good luck to Batley (and I genuinely mean that) but don't mistake arrogance for pride in the badge, keep your whining to your kintting circle and we'll let what happens on the pitch do the talking next season

If you are going to use the quote "and these are factually correct", then at least make sure the statements you use are, infact, factually correct.

In the mean time while you do your research enjoy walking in the shadow of your more illustrious neighbours.

Are they all Americans in Batley? Is sarcasm and irony lost on them?

To quote Rhino at last night's past players dinner, Halifax are the biggest club outside super league.

Got it in one

But they don`t want as much wonga as the ones that have been let go , we are still well below the cap and that is fact.

Lets prove it then. Bring on 2012

Can not wait to take on the biggest club outside SL

Halifax are MASSIVE. Next year we should just advertise our next fixture as Halifax RLFC vs Another sh*te village team.

Apart from say a dozen or so posters on here who have looked at the coach and the team that is being assembled and anticipating being very competative, how is that being arrogant?

Who else from the much larger Fax support who never come on here have you spoken to if any and of these who have come across as being arrogant?

Yet you tar everybody with your anti Fax biased brush.

It is only Halifax that you claim as having a masive opionion of themselves.

I don't see the same comments against other clubs like Fev for example who recently at boardroom level, supporters level are publicly saying that they will dominate this league for a good few seasons to come.

Your not saying they are being arrogant are you.

If it is not because of being jealous or having a dislike for the club then what is then.

You are clearly showing discrimination and yet blame Halifax for why you are doing it.

Sort yourself out before telling others what they need to change.

Look big can mean having bigger pulling power and support it don't always mean you are the best club on the pitch, look at football and how many 'big clubs' are not in the Premiership like Leeds, the two Sheffield clubs and Forest yet you have clubs like Blackburn, Bolton, Fulham, QPR and Wigan in it.
Bigger clubs should do better than smaller clubs but they don't do always as its what goes on the pitch that counts, well normally anyway even in RL.Its what makes sport worth watching sadly money is taking over and the juggernaughts like Man U in football are taking over.

I can take most of what you say on the chin and accept some is true about the finances but the comment about not being 'gracious' over not getting a SL franchise and our good effort at a PR coup with the Father Christmas and you swallowing the RFL line about our application being poor through their 'bought' auditors KPMG is way off the mark.
What are we supposed to do just accept being stitched up as acceptable behaviour?
Thing is if your club had one of the best levels of support home and away, is pretty succesful on the pitch and has a long and proud history like Halifax what do you feel you should say when compared to others without that - nothing?
Fax are probably now along with Leigh the biggest clubs outside SL closely followed by Fev.