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| A virtul new team knocked together at the eleventh hour is further down the road than us at the present moment....really...that's damning if true..whatever the reality i'm expecting a fax win on sunday,last weeks shambles can't be allowed a repeat.
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"A virtul new team knocked together at the eleventh hour is further down the road than us at the present moment....really...that's damning if true..whatever the reality i'm expecting a fax win on sunday,last weeks shambles can't be allowed a repeat.'"
My thoughts exactly BJ, and it's not the first time is it? RM seems comfortable with the situation so let's see how it goes. This could be a real make or break season for Fax, and the coach. Up The Fax!
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| Chapman-Smith in 19-a plus.Butler and Grady still missing which is annoying but no DR farce to concern us this week..
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| Disappointment for Hudd-Shay then nothing to grumble at
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Disappointment for Hudd-Shay then nothing to grumble at
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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. PRF, Circa 2019. Up The Fax!
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That's a decent looking squad you and St Helens have assembled.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"That's a decent looking squad you and St Helens have assembled.'" icon_smile.gif .If you have to use DR at least make it work for you.Leigh's looks very strong as for our use-total embarressment...
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"A virtul new team knocked together at the eleventh hour is further down the road than us at the present moment....really...that's damning if true..whatever the reality i'm expecting a fax win on sunday,last weeks shambles can't be allowed a repeat.'"
Would anybody be too surprised if Leigh did get the result as this 11th hour knocked together team are full of experienced quality players, their own and the additions from Saints.
As shown last week against Toulouse where they played for the full 80 minutes as a unit they are further down the road form wise coming into this game.
Fax form in reality so far amounts to showing nothing much preseason and last weeks shambles to go on, with settled team selection still not decided by a long way for a number of reasons.
My main concern goes back over a few seasons and the almost mandatory slow start which is being repeated again with Fax just doing the same easy to read plays and giving penalty after penalty after penalty away.
It's one thing to say we know we need to improve but not as easy to do it as we've seen often enough in the past.
Of course I'm hoping for a Fax win but I'm uneasy about it based on the above precisely because of how big a season it could be for us.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Would anybody be too surprised if Leigh did get the result as this 11th hour knocked together team are full of experienced quality players, their own and the additions from Saints.
As shown last week against Toulouse where they played for the full 80 minutes as a unit they are further down the road form wise coming into this game.
Fax form in reality so far amounts to showing nothing much preseason and last weeks shambles to go on, with settled team selection still not decided by a long way for a number of reasons.
My main concern goes back over a few seasons and the almost mandatory slow start which is being repeated again with Fax just doing the same easy to read plays and giving penalty after penalty after penalty away.
It's one thing to say we know we need to improve but not as easy to do it as we've seen often enough in the past.
Of course I'm hoping for a Fax win but I'm uneasy about it based on the above precisely because of how big a season it could be for us.'"
I could have written that word for word. The frustrating thing about it is that almost everyone is in agreement with it, barring the coach.
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| Such a hard game to call after last weeks results.
Did Fax simply not bother as they thought they couldn't win, or are they simply that bad?
Are Leigh a complete team and DR what makes them one?
I think our lack of creativity will be our downfall and I am sadly going for a Leigh win by two tries.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I could have written that word for word. The frustrating thing about it is that almost everyone is in agreement with it, barring the coach.'"
Come on Pete, Fax must be favourites ,you have a settled Squad, and yer own spin doctor the BFG keeps telling us all how Fax are nailed on for a top 4 spot,we on the other hand have a so called cobbled together side, with a small pack, as BFG has described us, a banker Fax win.
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| Quote ="Encouraged"Whilst I think we will improve I am still honestly reeling from the fact that the club did not take on Sammut when he expressed a clear interest in joining us (and I believe the money was there largely driven by Fax1). Othes have recruited well in those KEY areas and while I realise one many does not make a team - Sunday would have been a whole lot closer with him playing in blue and white. Opportunity MISSED in my opinion.'"
I understand that RM thought the money could be better spent elsewhere as the club are struggling for funds since both Posner and Harvey are not putting large amounts of money into the club to sponsor players
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| Quote ="Dbvada"I understand that RM thought the money could be better spent elsewhere as the club are struggling for funds since both Posner and Harvey are not putting large amounts of money into the club to sponsor players'"
Interesting then that this season will be our biggest spend on players since we fell in to this division.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I could have written that word for word. The frustrating thing about it is that almost everyone is in agreement with it, barring the coach.'"
Yep. It would be no surprise at all if Leigh won this game. Apart from 20 minutes against Widnes we have looked way off the pace in pre-season and that game. We improved the squad in the wrong areas in my opinion and yeah its great having a pack that can dominate its opponents but without the halves and backs to make use of it then its a waste. Butler one of the best players in the division last year will get moved out to centre, why not save the money spent on more second rowers and bring in players in the positions that it is obvious to everyone what is needed the most.
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| Obviously, I didn't see your game last week, but your pessimism about Sunday, surprises me. Our performance against Toulouse surprised us, especially after the way they humiliated our much-vaunted squad in the corresponding fixture last season.
However, we can't rally base our hopes on that one game - more's the pity. You are a good team, with a good coach and, crucially, are at home. It would be a far bigger shock this week, if we were to turn you over. Of course, I hope for a Leigh win, but failing that, would settle for as enjoyable a game as the one we witnessed last week.
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| Quote ="Alan"Obviously, I didn't see your game last week, but your pessimism about Sunday, surprises me. Our performance against Toulouse surprised us, especially after the way they humiliated our much-vaunted squad in the corresponding fixture last season.
However, we can't rally base our hopes on that one game - more's the pity. You are a good team, with a good coach and, crucially, are at home. It would be a far bigger shock this week, if we were to turn you over. Of course, I hope for a Leigh win, but failing that, would settle for as enjoyable a game as the one we witnessed last week.'"
For me Alan, a few Fax fans are playing Ducks and Drakes here,why not humour them.We all heard about the good squad they were assembling, and how we didn’t even have a squad till the 11th hour which was true.
I’m expecting a Fax win by around 8points,but then again I thought Wigan would beat a Sheff in the Cup Final.Yer never know.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"For me Alan, a few Fax fans are playing Ducks and Drakes here,why not humour them.We all heard about the good squad they were assembling, and how we didn’t even have a squad till the 11th hour which was true.
I’m expecting a Fax win by around 8points,but then again I thought Wigan would beat a Sheff in the Cup Final.Yer never know.'"
The facts are though Ian, the last time Fax had any decent results was back in July 2018 and although our squad may look good on paper some key parts of the engine are either in the wrong place or still can’t be used, up to now the Fax machine has been misfiring and clonking along.
Quack quack quack.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"For me Alan, a few Fax fans are playing Ducks and Drakes here,why not humour them.=#FF0000We all heard about the good squad they were assembling, and how we didn’t even have a squad till the 11th hour which was true.
I’m expecting a Fax win by around 8points,but then again I thought Wigan would beat a Sheff in the Cup Final.Yer never know.'"
A bit like the good one we assembled last season, then!
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| Quote ="faxcar"
Of course I'm hoping for a Fax win but I'm uneasy about it based on the above precisely because of how big a season it could be for us.'"
Why is 2019 a big season ? Any more than any other season, like ?
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| Quote ="griff1998"Why is 2019 a big season ? Any more than any other season, like ?
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It’s the vibes coming from within the club.
Some of the reasons include.
Length of time RM has been here.
Linked to that is what Fax set out to achieve under his control.
The feeling that we are getting as far as we can as a part time club.
As a result having the biggest spend on recruitment than any other season under RM.
Because of that a big push for a top 4/5 Finnish and the hope of doing a London with full time and SL as the result.
The realization that any club, coach and group of players only has so long to make steady progress and achieve their ambitions before it starts to go in the opposite direction.
In 2019, Fax, RM and the players are getting close to that point before the change comes and we start all over again.
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| Quote ="faxcar"The facts are though Ian, the last time Fax had any decent results was back in July 2018 and although our squad may look good on paper some key parts of the engine are either in the wrong place or still can’t be used, up to now the Fax machine has been misfiring and clonking along.
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Always a hard game at the Shay,we are in the East Stand, so give us a shout if you see us.Ive heard around 700 Leythers are coming over, we already have sold the 500 allocation for the North Stand , and there’s the East Stand tickets sold and them what turn up on the day , looking forward to it.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Always a hard game at the Shay,we are in the East Stand, so give us a shout if you see us.Ive heard around 700 Leythers are coming over, we already have sold the 500 allocation for the North Stand , and there’s the East Stand tickets sold and them what turn up on the day , looking forward to it.'"
We've gone posh Ian. Season tickets in't East stand now so see you tomorrow.
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| I thought we looked pretty comfortable in that game apart from the 1st 20 or so minutes from there I never really thought we were going to lose. I'm not sure the performance was any better than last week just the reality we were playing a much better team last week, I always got the feeling today we could step it up a few gears. Obviously RM thought we were comfortable too awarded the luxury of getting Murrell off the field early in the 2nd half although it must still be a worry for him that we seem to go to pieces without him on the field.
Still way too many penalties in our game and against a good team we will get punished so hopefully that is something that can be worked on. A few clowns at the end causing trouble but looked to be just more infighting so maybe that was just the fall out of their players falling out on the pitch.
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| Just relieved to have got the result.
The pack looked pretty strong with the backs supporting them well in running the ball out and finished well in attack.
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