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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Kicking either of the clubs out of the Shay no matter who or what offer was on the table would be hugely controversial, where would Town or Fax play if that happened somewhere out of Halifax?
That would kill either club lets be honest and as for this non rent payment its all very well Town fans sitting on the higher moral ground at the moment while Town are solvent with a 'money man' and cash from sold players behind them but as a Town fan as well as Fax fan with a long memory this has not always been so and I would not want the roles to be reversed and see Town kicked out, my forlorn wish is for the same from some numpty Town fans who just hate the rugby club but I can't see it sadly.'"
The town fan who has been talking about this on our forum has stated one of the conditions of the offer is that the rugby club are kicked out and never allowed to play there again. He's said it's a football fan backer. Pitch works would be done using the upfront rent, then it'd be 52 weeks of just football, then the pitch leasehold company would be able to get another team in to share as long as it wasn't you.
At least that's what I can piece together from the posts he's made on our board.
It's obviously a wind up, even if there is genuinely such an offer there is no way CMBC would kick either club out. However, hopefully this FOI will allow us to move on from this stupid debate.
By the way - you can set up an account at WDTK in any name and you don't need to give an address, so you can set up an account and ask anonymous questions. Just don't register using your council email address!
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| The insurance itself would be a nightmare to sort out.
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| Quote ="Danger_mouse"The town fan who has been talking about this on our forum has stated one of the conditions of the offer is that the rugby club are kicked out and never allowed to play there again. He's said it's a football fan backer. Pitch works would be done using the upfront rent, then it'd be 52 weeks of just football, then the pitch leasehold company would be able to get another team in to share as long as it wasn't you.
At least that's what I can piece together from the posts he's made on our board.
It's obviously a wind up, even if there is genuinely such an offer there is no way CMBC would kick either club out. However, hopefully this FOI will allow us to move on from this stupid debate.
By the way - you can set up an account at WDTK in any name and you don't need to give an address, so you can set up an account and ask anonymous questions. Just don't register using your council email address!'"
There is a genuine bid which i have always believed would faulter as surely any rent outstanding would be paid if the option was eviction.The bidder however believes the sum owed to council is way in excess of what has been rumoured.
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| Quote ="mr t hall"There is a genuine bid which i have always believed would faulter as surely any rent outstanding would be paid if the option was eviction.The bidder however believes the sum owed to council is way in excess of what has been rumoured.'"
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"It has been common knowledge the club has had issues with the rental agreement with the Council but Mr Byrnes was keen to put the record straight "Whilst there has been issues in the past I am pleased to say once the next monthly rental payment has been made Halifax RLFC will be fully up to date with any payments to the Council."
So you're saying that Mr. Byrnes was lying then?
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"From 20th February. Quote
"It has been common knowledge the club has had issues with the rental agreement with the Council but Mr Byrnes was keen to put the record straight "Whilst there has been issues in the past I am pleased to say once the next monthly rental payment has been made Halifax RLFC will be fully up to date with any payments to the Council."
So you're saying that Mr. Byrnes was lying then?'"
I'm only passing on what i've been told.Furthermore the above mentioned cheque is alleged to have bounced whilst the disputed sum of £1200 per month was never paid
and goes back over 3 years,so you can see this is not a minor issue.Could explain why we didn't see the expected recruitment last week.......
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| Told by who? FCHT supporters? Hardly impartial are they? They are only ever prepared to believe anything negative about Fax and that, apparently, includes yourself.
The only statements regarding the alleged pitch leasing bid have come from Peter Noble (Flea) and he is totally obsessed in his hatred of all things Fax. Even Bubba said on your forum that he had mentioned it to 2 councillors (IIRC) and they laughed and said that no such bid existed.
This has now been going on for over a month since it was first mentioned and nothing has materialised so you will forgive me for being sceptical.
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| Rabidly obsessed and hypocritical to the 9th degree.
I should imagine they cause much embarrassment to most Town fans
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Told by who? FCHT supporters? Hardly impartial are they? They are only ever prepared to believe anything negative about Fax and that, apparently, includes yourself. The only statements regarding the alleged pitch leasing bid have come from Peter Noble (Flea) and he is totally obsessed in his hatred of all things Fax. Even Bubba said on your forum that he had mentioned it to 2 councillors (IIRC) and they laughed and said that no such bid existed.
This has now been going on for over a month since it was first mentioned and nothing has materialised so you will forgive me for being sceptical.'"
To be honest I don't know what to believe.Flea has just posted that Fax have made a recent significant payment towards the arrears,so hopefully this issue is now put to bed.
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| Quote ="mr t hall"To be honest I don't know what to believe.Flea has just posted that Fax have made a recent significant payment towards the arrears,so hopefully this issue is now put to bed.'"
I bet he is seriously annoyed at that! How inconsiderate of them.
Edit: Just read the updated string. Those guys are bleeding hilarious! Firstly, they state that the rumour about the bouncing cheque came from a Fax fan, not quite true, it came from an alleged fan of both clubs who heard it from FCHT fans. Secondly, they think that the imaginary pitch bid put imaginary pressure on Fax to pay up the arrears. So now Flea will try to take credit for something that no-one other than him has any proof actually exists and that proof has yet to be released.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"I bet he is seriously annoyed at that! How inconsiderate of them.
Edit: Just read the updated string. Those guys are bleeding hilarious! Firstly, they state that the rumour about the bouncing cheque came from a Fax fan, not quite true, it came from an alleged fan of both clubs who heard it from FCHT fans. Secondly, they think that the imaginary pitch bid put imaginary pressure on Fax to pay up the arrears. So now Flea will try to take credit for something that no-one other than him has any proof actually exists and that proof has yet to be released.'"
Fair enough,but you can drop that bit.
Who else was daft enough to go to both last Friday's games at great expense and a soddened son.
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| Only half daft. The decision to go to Odsal was remarkably intelligent.
I see they've now done their usual trick. When comments start getting libelous they move the string to a Members Only area.
Incidentally, I can't believe that Fax actually have their own sub-division on there where they can rip into us without the distraction of a 2-sided argument. How sad is that? Can you imagine us having a "Sod FCHT" section?
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| [ :3ljrdtfkquote="Fax Machine"Only half daft. The decision to go to Odsal was remarkably intelligent:3ljrdtfk.
I see they've now done their usual trick. When comments start getting libelous they move the string to a Members Only area.
Incidentally, I can't believe that Fax actually have their own sub-division on there where they can rip into us without the distraction of a 2-sided argument. How sad is that? Can you imagine us having a "Sod FCHT" section? Certainly was for 39 mins.
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| Can't be ars-d.
I have said many times on this forum that I dislike with a passion anything to do with the "sport" of football, but wish FC Halifax every success as they carry the name Halifax ( do you know they are not allowed to display the Halifax crest) unlike us.
But after all their recent vitriol I am beginning to change my mind.
Play offs slipping away?
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| Nothing much to see in the private forum. I think anyone is free to sign up but when you post do expect to get a lot of abuse from about 3 or 4 individuals who are possibly old enough to know better but there is some interesting discussions on there from a few others who can actually get a point across without resorting to abuse.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Even Bubba said on your forum that he had mentioned it to 2 councillors (IIRC) and they laughed and said that no such bid existed.'"
Had a meeting with the Councillor Leader and the manager of sport services. As you say, neither claimed to know of any such bid and I got the impression that whilst they have their frustrations with the rugby club (and I am sure with FCHT at times too) there does exist a good working relationship with a desire by [uall[/u parties to move the Shay forward positively.
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| Quote ="Bubba"Had a meeting with the Councillor Leader and the manager of sport services. As you say, neither claimed to know of any such bid and I got the impression that whilst they have their frustrations with the rugby club (and I am sure with FCHT at times too) there does exist a good working relationship with a desire by [uall[/u parties to move the Shay forward positively.'"
That's good to hear, Bubba, because the bad feeling in my opinion is holding both clubs back. Can you imagine what could be achieved if the 2 clubs could work together? I can live with criticism of Fax when its deserved but some of the comments from an, admittedly, small number of FCHT fans are completely out of order and, in some cases, simply untrue.
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| I have said before, I don’t get some of the hatred. And it was there way before anyone even contemplated sharing grounds. The rugby and football clubs are not rival teams they play different sports. BUT they both represent the town of Halifax, play in the same colours, at the same ground. It should make shared marketing, shared sponsorships, joint fundraising events, etc. so much easier and maybe save on some expenses, but hey maybe that’s too much like common sense.
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| Quote ="gizempo"I have said before, I don’t get some of the hatred. And it was there way before anyone even contemplated sharing grounds. The rugby and football clubs are not rival teams they play different sports. BUT they both represent the town of Halifax, play in the same colours, at the same ground. It should make shared marketing, shared sponsorships, joint fundraising events, etc. so much easier and maybe save on some expenses, but hey maybe that’s too much like common sense.'"
I couldn't agree more.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn" do you know they are not allowed to display the Halifax crest'"
Who told you that rubbish?
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| Quote ="Bubba"Who told you that rubbish?'"
your supposed to tell him he's talking bollox..
The current board of FCHT decided when the club reformed that they would have a
new crest for a new identity.This was not a popular decision(especially for people who had recent had a tattoo done of the old crest )
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| Sorry I got that wrong, or did I?
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| Quote ="Bubba"Had a meeting with the Councillor Leader and the manager of sport services. As you say, neither claimed to know of any such bid and I got the impression that whilst they have their frustrations with the rugby club (and I am sure with FCHT at times too) there does exist a good working relationship with a desire by [uall[/u parties to move the Shay forward positively.'"
In what capacity did you have the meeting?
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Sorry I got that wrong, or did I?'"
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"In what capacity did you have the meeting?'"
In any capacity.
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| Bubba,obviously you have a keen interest in Halifax sport but i'm led to believe you no longer attend matches.Could i ask what reasons keep you away and what could entice you back ?
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