Well said.

We don't need this disruption at this time of the season.

Focus on the next match is needed by all.

What makes you so sure?

The article reads as if he wants a two year deal but only Leigh are willing to offer it. Perhaps he is holding out for one here.

You believe this if you wish...

Personally I think sitting on it is the wrong thing to do, let him announce he's signed for Leigh and concentrate on leaving in the best way possible. You believe everything the club puts out do you?? Its merely press spin to appease the fans who feel that they are in the dark and want to know what's going on!

Of course he told his sponsor he hadn't signed anything yet!! - The club want a lid on it until the playoffs are over.

and all started by a journo.

Rumour is his dad has told him he will sack him and remove him from the will if he doesn't sign this time.

In a nutshell......yes.

Just using this as an example.....

So you believed the statement the club put out about its license application last season and the fact that the club knew nothing about the fans demonstration etc?

Cos I can assure you that was press spin too

The point im making is everything that the club puts its name to isn't always 100% factual!! Even if they claim it is!

Lets also remember the fact that this statement was from Penky to the Courier. Nothing to do with the club.

So your talking about your Spirit of 1885 crusade? Well I sure the club were aware of it but kept their distance as any other professional club would do in any sport.

A press spin is very different to fact.

Now then, give me something proper that the club have said that isn't factual?

And yes like Nat said - Player to newspaper story - where the player happens to be playing for Halifax RLFC. I suppose that's the clubs fault too.

I like KH's apparent comment..

"if you don't want to play for fax then fu** off"

We all love Penky but if he wants out then thankyou and



Bring on the next outstanding 9 (there's plenty out there).

with the team recruitments occuring and DP comments that Fax have all the brass why on earth would Penky want out now? Hope he stays but there's life after Penky.

The manner of Dane Manning`s injury?

At what point was it not factual - the news was just slow to come to the forefront surely?

Well it didn't happen on the rugby field for one and to go back to your previous comment, we ran the spirit of 1873 crusade (as you put it) at the request of the club! It was there idea, we merely fronted it!!

exactly!

im sure Penky has decided one way or another, and all that he apparently said to the courier (hardly 100% accurate themselves!!!) has been spun the way the club wanted it.

If he leaves then he goes with my best wishes, as long as he performs as well as we all know he can in the next (hopefully) 3 games of the season.

Fax legend - they come and go though.

to be fair Chris, the player sponsor and Penky were sat next to me and penky was sat two seats from me when he said he hadn't signed - so i believed him, its not any BS from the club or player or press

Technically he can't sign for anyone else yet, surely?

If he eventually does come to Leigh, I'll be delighted, but I'm sure he will give absolutely everything to 'Fax in your last game/2 games/3 games. That's the way he's always played.

Hey up Alan.

Do you know if coverage of Penky's signing will be on the radio

Attendances!

Yes from 1st July they can when out of contract that year.

No I'm sure Penky did say that to his sponsor but do you not think they (players) will be made to tow the line when it comes to what info they can and can't part with?? - his sponsor or not

The info will all be what / how the club want it presented. He simply will have been told what to say and what not to say. Simple really that the club wants its own spin on things.

Why on earth would the club take the risk of lying to a sponsor? We really have nothing to gain from keeping it quiet if he has signed for Leigh! All we are doing is putting potential replacements off signing up. Do you think Ellis would come here to split time with Penky?

What the chuff has Ellis got to do with it?? Yes I do think players would be instructed to keep things quiet even to sponsors. You live in cuckoo land if you think they spill everything to essentially fans! Do you not think Dane Manning's injury or should I say how he got injured is a lie on a massive scale then?? I think you calling it a lie is a bit too strong. As I've always said its manipulating a situation for their own means to keep Positive spin.

Or as you put it do I think they'd "lie" to a sponsor?? Yes I do if it benefitted club and player. The same as they've withheld information regarding Manning's broken jaw!!! Otherwise it creates negative press.

Oh dear. You ignored my main point because it dosen't fit in with your theory. Why would the club instruct Penky to lie? We have signed and lost many players before the end of the season. Why would Penky be any different? We dont gain anything out of keeping it quiet, whereas another player, for example Ellis, may think "I won't go to Fax as I might be sharing playing time with Penky and that wont be good for my future ambitions". There is a big difference between not "spilling everything" and point blank lying when asked a question by somebody who has put a lot of his/her money into the club.

Has it occurred to you that the Manning jaw incident may be subject to criminal proceedings so the club can't say anything! Once again, difference between not saying anything at all and lying!

Nothing like this thread to create negative press.

Dear me!! Just to pick a few holes in your repost..... Do you think players like Ellis would be approached in the first place Unless the club knows either if a player is leaving or won't be offered a new contract??

Secondly surely the club can say that a player was assaulted and as a result has a broken jaw, no further comment will be made until the police investigation has been completed blah blah blah?? Or do they say..... Manning broke his jaw in the 2nd half v Leigh but he's a tough lad and played on blah blah blah??

They don't have to make up a story just because of a police investigation