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| Quote ="littlerich"Think you're almost there with that one. Fax players have totally not coped with the original niggling by Leigh from the first match. They changed the game after being mullered in the first half by sending Barlow on to smash up the flow with blatant dirty tactics. Fax players don't seem to be able to return this tactic to the same effect, instead becoming embroiled in "revenge attacks" and failing badly. The passage of time between the next confrontation may ease the situation. Whatever happens - trouble will follow Barlow around wherever he goes. At the moment it's been a massive plus for Leigh and much of that is down to good coaching.'"
What happened with a certain Leigh born player , after the game had ended ?
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| So, last night it was an attack from behind. Now we've seen the footage, it does look late and high, but clearly from the front and where the charge of using the shoulder comes from I'm not sure. Sam obviously caught something in the face/head that knocked him out, but it certainly didn't look like a shoulder.
Dane will no doubt be found guilty and serve a ban, and maybe a lengthy one, but I think more for the "afters" than the initial collision with Sam.
As an RL fan, I'm really happy that Sam seems to be Ok.
On reflecting overall, I think his coach deserves the ban more than Dane, and with instructions to play a proper game of rugby league would maybe have turned Leigh over last night. They started off on fire and we couldn't contain them, but a more sensible approach (and maybe Jono on from the start and Murrell fit to play) would have been more fruitful.
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| Might not of been from behind but I think the intent was there though. Either way,it was bad!
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"What happened with a certain Leigh born player , after the game had ended ?'"
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What did Sam say to the Halifax bench when he was substituted?
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| Quote ="ChrisRover"Might not of been from behind but I think the intent was there though. Either way,it was bad!'"
Quote from another thread from a Leigh fan last night (before we'd seen the footage) was "That incident started when Barlow was taken late of the ball from behind."
The supporter in question clearly hadn't seen the incident at all (was he even at the game?) as there is no way in a million years it could be said that the challenge was "from behind".
As to intent etc., that's up to the RFL to decide.
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| Quote ="HXSparky"Quote from another thread from a Leigh fan last night (before we'd seen the footage) was "That incident started when Barlow was taken late of the ball from behind."
The supporter in question clearly hadn't seen the incident at all (was he even at the game?) as there is no way in a million years it could be said that the challenge was "from behind".
As to intent etc., that's up to the RFL to decide.'"
It was me who stated that. I was there and at the time I initially thought it was. Having had the chance to see it numerous times since on video, it clearly wasn't so apologies for that. It wasn't a case of misleading anyone it was a genuine error.
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| Quote ="'alifax"I haven't had the benefit of seeing a replay as yet, so have purposfully avoided giving my views on the challenge. If there is one available somewhere, I'd be greatful for a link.
I haven't read your post as a gloat, I have read it as a subtle way of informing us that you have nothing good to say about Halifax RLFC this morning. You seem to have the same view as the Peawaap chap, but are managing to maintain your "impartiality", by hiding what you truly want to say as to avoid upsetting =#0000FF[size=150Halifax John [/sizeand Bentley Man. At least Peawwap has the balls to just come out with it..
Maybe we'll finish 3rd, maybe 2nd, maybe 4th, who know's, we have some issues at Fax that certainly need addressing, but address them we will and be stronger for it.'"
alifax, please don't mention my name when you don't know me or Charlie.
Charlie says what he wants to and I respect that, take a look at what you posted "at least peawwap has the balls to just come out with it?"
He called us the scum of the earth!
Charlie has given his opinion, I may or may not agree with it but I respect it.
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| Quote ="Hindsfordleyther79"It was me who stated that. I was there and at the time I initially thought it was. Having had the chance to see it numerous times since on video, it clearly wasn't so apologies for that. It wasn't a case of misleading anyone it was a genuine error.'"
Will you go back to that thread and retract it?
No, don't think so.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Will you go back to that thread and retract it?
No, don't think so.
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If I can find it. Is there an easy way to find it?
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| Quote ="Hindsfordleyther79"If I can find it. Is there an easy way to find it?'"
Yes
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| Quote ="Hindsfordleyther79"If I can find it. Is there an easy way to find it?'"
Perhaps better not to post it in the first place!
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Perhaps better not to post it in the first place!
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I can post what I like as long as keep to the aup. If what I post I later realise is a mistake I as are others am perfectly entitled to correct it. It's easy to be wise after the event. I stand by what I said at the time it was said. Now I know what I thought at the time was incorrect I have said so.
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| Yes, it's really easy ("View your posts" would be a start), but the point is that you provoked a situation by stating that it was from behind. The facts prove otherwise. That's what's happens on the pitch sometimes - someone provokes a situation and others react.
Dane comes over maybe as a bit of a "hot head" (others would say passionate), but that applies to a lot of sportsmen where physical contact is the name of the game. I don't know him personally, so I can only say what I see - and that's that he's totally committed to the Fax club and team.
None of us (in the stands) know what he was thinking or what provocation before, or during, the game had gone on.
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| Quote ="Hindsfordleyther79"I can post what I like as long as keep to the aup. If what I post I later realise is a mistake I as are others am perfectly entitled to correct it. It's easy to be wise after the event. I stand by what I said at the time it was said. Now I know what I thought at the time was incorrect I have said so.'"
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| Quote ="HXSparky"Yes, it's really easy ("View your posts" would be a start), but the point is that you provoked a situation by stating that it was from behind. The facts prove otherwise. That's what's happens on the pitch sometimes - someone provokes a situation and others react.
Dane comes over maybe as a bit of a "hot head" (others would say passionate), but that applies to a lot of sportsmen where physical contact is the name of the game. I don't know him personally, so I can only say what I see - and that's that he's totally committed to the Fax club and team.
None of us (in the stands) know what he was thinking or what provocation before, or during, the game had gone on.'"
Thanks for the advice, post now edited. I apologise it was never my intention to mislead or provoke anything, I said what I believed to be true. Anyway I hope we can all move on. None of us can change what happened, it's in the hands of the rfl disciplinary panel who have already outlined the charges. Let's hope also that what your coach said after the game about meeting in the grand final happens because it would be another cracking game for both sets of fans, let's just hope for a little less controversy though
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| Quote ="Hindsfordleyther79"I can post what I like as long as keep to the aup. If what I post I later realise is a mistake I as are others am perfectly entitled to correct it. It's easy to be wise after the event. I stand by what I said at the time it was said. Now I know what I thought at the time was incorrect I have said so.'"
So is it Ok if Dane says that he made a mistake, but he's entitled to correct it by saying "sorry" for the punches he threw (I'll leave the initial challenge up to the RFL), and hence no further action?
Clearly not, but read what you've just written, and apply that to RL players on the pitch in the middle of what's always an attritional and physically confrontational sport.
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| Ships passing! Let's move on. All the best for the rest of the season.
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| Quote ="HXSparky"So is it Ok if Dane says that he made a mistake, but he's entitled to correct it by saying "sorry" for the punches he threw (I'll leave the initial challenge up to the RFL), and hence no further action?
Clearly not, but read what you've just written, and apply that to RL players on the pitch in the middle of what's always an attritional and physically confrontational sport.'"
I'm not quite sure it's a fair comparison, but I take the point.
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| I started this thread with,
I have decided to start a new thread as Sam seems to be mentioned on at least 3 other threads.
To me Sam was superb in the first half, at least three or four important offloades two of which resulted in trys.
Threw a silly punch in the tackle early on and was quite rightly penalised.
Booed in the first half when substituted, and more importantly in my opinion, disgracefully, as he was helped off the pitch.
Why do Fax fans dislike him, he opted to play for us instead of that useless waste of space club in South Yorkshire and accepted all the vitriol from them, did't we christen him Slamin Sam.
Sincerly hope he is well tonight,
O'h if you look at the other threads about tonight, leyther94 and hindsfordleyther79 won't be able to reply, they have been sent to bed without any supper.
I was hoping to draw a line under the incident and perhaps move on and talk about the game.
Instead we get a medical update from Dick Jones, fractured skull and bleeding.
What a great way to derail a thread and start all the stupid vitriol that followed.
Dick, I know what great work you do for your club and your passion for Leigh but next time draw a breath, you say you posted it because Mr Rowley said it. Great coach I agree, Doctor or Surgeon? not sure.
But hey don't let the truth get derailed by hearsay.
Good luck Sam, good luck Leigh.
In my humble opinion if you were in Super League this year you would not finish in the bottom three, no other club in the Championship could say that.
Anyway of to bed, apparently Wendy ball is on tv.
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| Quote ="Hindsfordleyther79"I'm not quite sure it's a fair comparison, but I take the point.'"
If you were allowed to backpedal in the Tour De France you would be the winner by a country mile.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"If you were allowed to backpedal in the Tour De France you would be the winner by a country mile.
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Now that I don't believe. Good luck to you guys for the rest of the season
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| No doubt it was a late and high shot from Manning, but as a stand alone incident I'd expect his punishment to depend on whether the red card was issued for the initial challenge or for the scrapping. What he will find himself in hot water about is starting another scrap a full 40 seconds after the initial incident when the ref had split everything up and seemingly calmed it down.
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| Matt, I agree, "the afters" (in my opinion) were worthy of a red card and Dane (I hope) is reflecting that it was pretty stupid. I'm sure there must have been some verbals involved, but "sticks and stones" etc...
I would like to say that, walking out of the ground, regardless of the animosity on the pitch, from my perspective (wearing a blue 'n' white shirt) the atmosphere between the fans was calm and just reflective of a tough sporting tussle.
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| Quote ="HXSparky"I would like to say that, walking out of the ground, regardless of the animosity on the pitch, from my perspective (wearing a blue 'n' white shirt) the atmosphere between the fans was calm and just reflective of a tough sporting tussle.'"
Exactly as it should be, Sparky. Such a shame that everyone is talking about these incidents instead of what was a terrific contest.
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| Quite right and a game Fax should have won.
They have a great squad but are bad tactically' had they thrown the ball out a bit more the game would have been theirs.
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