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| well siad FAX FAN.seeing it live is completely different, i am not knocking their commitment and effort , watching Watene , Maloney , Said taking the ball in hard etc - there was no lack of commitment there.We were just 9 pts adrift with 30 to go ; they got a try , our heads dropped and that was that.Big wrap to Barrow - they played the better stuff , ran well , tackled hard and were the better team - no argument there.
Govin must play at 6 next week , Penky must be at 9 AND James back in the front row.Dam iam late for work , plenty more to say about ,knackered , car travelled in broke down , got back about 3am.
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| Quote ="rickster"well siad FAX FAN.seeing it live is completely different, i am not knocking their commitment and effort , watching Watene , Maloney , Said taking the ball in hard etc - there was no lack of commitment there.We were just 9 pts adrift with 30 to go ; they got a try , our heads dropped and that was that.Big wrap to Barrow - they played the better stuff , ran well , tackled hard and were the better team - no argument there.
Govin must play at 6 next week , Penky must be at 9 AND James back in the front row.Dam iam late for work , plenty more to say about ,knackered , car travelled in broke down , got back about 3am.
Never mind !'"
You say well said then have a go at team selection? Your saying what everyone apart from the coach realises. Govin has being quality at 6 when he has played at the back end of the season. Penky is and always will be one of the best hookers in this league yet our leader insists on playing him at 6. As for James im not sure why they decided to get peoples hopes up. There was no chance of him playing a week after getting pot off.
Big Frank was a liability again. He started the season like a house on fire yet has finished it like a damp squid. Im not a Dana Wilson fan but he would do a lot better job for us than Frank did in his 20 minutes.
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| Quote ="faxfan"I think i watched a different game to some people last night and yes i was at the game before people start saying were you there or some other rubbish.
We were beaten by the better team end of, whatever game plan we had, we wouldn't have beaten Barrow tonight. They are a class act now, hence why they finished top. We were in that game for 60 minutes and if a few things had gone our way...such as a certain Barrow player being sin binned things may have been different. i don't think the bounce of the ball went our way either....that Larder pass came at an unlucky time when i think we were just starting to settle into the game. If this game had come after a good run of wins people wouldn't be so critical.
However I don't think Barrow are unbeatable and IF we can win next week i think we will go into the final with a bit more cinfidence that we are obviously still lacking a little.
You would also think that people wouldn't start all this before another big game next week, sorry but theres only one more week some of you negative folk have to wait before you can start your full moaning so why not wait until then, whatever you think of the coach most of you seem to keep saying the players are good enough so how about getting behind our club for the next 7 days? I'm sure thats what they would like to see on here today...this kind of stuff is hardly gonig to encourage players like Shad Royston to stay is it??
We weren't out enthused last night, being at the game is a totally different perspective to watching it on V...so maybe i will changemy mind when i watch it back, but you could tell they wanted it and were gutted at the end, so lets support them, and stop all this because for anyone who has forgotten we still have the chance of having the best season ever, and from my perspective I want to thank the club for that.'"
I accept you was there, but can I ask if you were drunk.
I was there also and I saw a flat team, who didnt seem enthused at all. Okay I dont say there was a lack of effort, but there was certainly a lack of tackling....
Yes Barrow deserved the win 100% they outplayed us in every single position, bar none.
And YES there is another week to go, but the day cost people a great deal of money and they HAVE a right to moan about the product that was given to them for their hard earned cash.
I will be there next week and I will be 100% behind the team and win or loose it has been a good, entertaining season, but dont have a go at people for venting their feelings.
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| Dana Wilson did ok when he played against Leigh then was dropped for an injured Frank the week after
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| I dont get how people are still so defensive, how many more pancake performances need serving up before you call for his head? 3? 4?
Personally id give him one more cance, if we are ripped apart by fev or widnes at the shay i'd be glad to see a change
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| Sorry to say I told you so but when I brought the topic,"Is Calland Up to It" to the forum after the Sheffield game I was poo pooed by many on here. We were first out played and out thought by Sheffield and Mark Aston. We did not heed the warnings, I can tell you that even then there were a lot of people who, like myself, understand the game, thought we could be heading for a fall. Sorry to say it looks as though we are big time chokers and Mr C is just not up to it. Think he should fall on his sword now as he has clearly lost their support. The team cannot play with any less organisation even if he is back in Lancashire next Thursday.
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| Quote ="spanishbob"I accept you was there, but can I ask if you were drunk.
I was there also and I saw a flat team, who didnt seem enthused at all. Okay I dont say there was a lack of effort, but there was certainly a lack of tackling....
Yes Barrow deserved the win 100% they outplayed us in every single position, bar none.
And YES there is another week to go, but the day cost people a great deal of money and they HAVE a right to moan about the product that was given to them for their hard earned cash.
I will be there next week and I will be 100% behind the team and win or loose it has been a good, entertaining season, but dont have a go at people for venting their feelings.'"
You have asked if i was drunk yet agreed with pretty much everything i said? No i wasn't drunk. But i did try and watch the game as a single match rather than bringing up everything from the past few weeks as well. If we hadn't had a bad run i don't think people would be moaning as much about last night as they are.
I never said last nights performance was fantastic, but it certainly wasn't what some of the people on here have been saying. i wouldn't even say Barrow were enthusiastic most of the game, i just think they had moents of brilliance which unfortunately we didn't have
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| If we'd of lost 8 out of 12 at the start of the season in the fashion we just have i think a lot more people would be calling for Calland's head
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| The point is, whatever you think this topic is pointless until our season is finished because it isn't going to help anyone is it?
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| Quote ="faxfan"The point is, whatever you think this topic is pointless until our season is finished because it isn't going to help anyone is it?'"
But you think if fans stop posting negativity on here then someone will wave a magic wand and all in the world of HRLFC will be cushy again?
It really makes no difference whatsoever. Its an open forum and people can express their views.
Unfortunatley on the coaching front we have missed the boat, a couple of weeks agao one telephone call and we could of had Rhino in but we hung around to see if things would pick up. Instead two shoddy victories have just glossed over what will be the inevitable.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"But you think if fans stop posting negativity on here then someone will wave a magic wand and all in the world of HRLFC will be cushy again?
It really makes no difference whatsoever. Its an open forum and people can express their views.
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it does make a big difference, with the crap been posted on here, the other week we lost the chance of signing of a super league player as he had been reading the rubbish on here and said no,,i could very easy get kick of here if i put what i thought about certain posters and the trouble they cause,, all this is does effect the club more then people know, as for sacking matt what a load of b******s, we have the right man in charge, get behind the team on thursday not just slagging them off
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| Quote ="danny dyer 2000"If we'd of lost 8 out of 12 at the start of the season in the fashion we just have i think a lot more people would be calling for Calland's head'"
Yes but we didn't.
If Calland had taken a dump on the half way line, picked it up and thrown it in your face, i'd expect him to be sacked. But he didn't.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Yes but we didn't.
If Calland had taken a dump on the half way line, picked it up and thrown it in your face, i'd expect him to be sacked. But he didn't.'"
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| How many more performances like this are people prepared to accept?
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| Quote ="halifaxxx"How many more performances like this are people prepared to accept?'"
I'm prepared to wait until the end of the season. A season which thus far has been the best one since 1998. But then again, i'm not an unreasonable screaming jackass who's so short sighted that i can't see beyond next week or three month's past.
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| Quote ="littlerich"I'm prepared to wait until the end of the season. A season which thus far has been the best one since 1998. But then again, i'm not an unreasonable screaming jackass who's so short sighted that i can't see beyond next week or three month's past.'"
If we get smashed to pieces next game, we will still have finished second! would this change your mind?
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"But you think if fans stop posting negativity on here then someone will wave a magic wand and all in the world of HRLFC will be cushy again?
It really makes no difference whatsoever. Its an open forum and people can express their views.
Unfortunatley on the coaching front we have missed the boat, a couple of weeks agao one telephone call and we could of had Rhino in but we hung around to see if things would pick up. Instead two shoddy victories have just glossed over what will be the inevitable.'"
What would you have liked us to pay Calland's 2 year contract up with? Magic beans?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Yes but we didn't.
If Calland had taken a dump on the half way line, picked it up and thrown it in your face, i'd expect him to be sacked. But he didn't.'" No but if he did i think he'd come worse off
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| Quote ="halifaxxx"If we get smashed to pieces next game, we will still have finished second! would this change your mind?'"
No. I will of course give a critical assessment of how we collapsed but i will asses the season as a whole and remember that we led the league for most of the season. I will also take into account how Leigh were also amongst the front runners at the start of the campaign but have now been relegated. Maybe i will spare a thought for the sterling work done by the back room staff and the people propping up our club - at their own expense and voluntarily and that other clubs have more resources at their disposal. Then i will say Wow ! We finished second. Not bad that. Roll on next season !
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| Quote ="danny dyer 2000"No but if he did i think he'd come worse off
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| Quote ="seanfax"the other week we lost the chance of signing of a super league player as he had been reading the rubbish on here and said no'"
Sorry mate, I just don't buy that at all. Surely he would want to come beacause of the coaching and the set up if he was truly interested? - To say reading a forum was the basis of his decision to not join the club is a little poor from you in my opinion.
I can just hear it now . . . "So you signing Mr player x?" - "Actually I think you are a super coach, your playing staff looks good on paper for 2010 and the money is right but I saw several posters on your unofficial forum slating recent performances so Halifax is not the club for me" . . . I don't think so.
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| Quote ="seanfax"Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"But you think if fans stop posting negativity on here then someone will wave a magic wand and all in the world of HRLFC will be cushy again?
It really makes no difference whatsoever. Its an open forum and people can express their views.
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what a load of balls sean . clearly he didnt want to play for fax there for who gives a monkeys.
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| Quote ="seanfax"
the other week we lost the chance of signing of a super league player as he had been reading the rubbish on here and said no'"
Even if thats true, which i very much doubt, im glad such a pu$$y wouldnt sign
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| Lol I agree, highly doubt it would sway a players decision.
What a crap day yesterday turned out to be. Our in-play kicking is woeful, our kick to touch from a penalty is laughable, in the first half black took one and the players didnt even have to move forward ready for the tap. Our passing is poor, we used to be able to string 3 passes together to get from wing to wing, now we can't even pass from the base of the scrum ( 1st minute on our own line) the player had to dive to collect the pass, and as for that kick to touch in the 2nd half that just dribbled 5 metres forward, well!
I watched it last night on tv when I got back and heard Bazza say we only made 11 metres from 4 drives, thats woefully poor BUT I agree with the posts on here that Barrows tackling was awsome, it was.
Ballard made a break in the first half, fell over and we still didnt catch him! Barrow off loaded at will and at times it was like touch and pass.
It all looked like it was gonna go sour when we kick on the 2/3rd in the first few minutes then on the 2nd tackle defending we give a penalty away and end up back down where we came from a few moments before.
Our go forward is and has been non existent the last 3 months, no wonder the halves look like headless chickens, this was mentioned many times on sky, at times it looked like men against boys in the collission, players falling off tacklees, not wrapping the ball up etc.
I agree also, Penky is a hooker ffs play him there. I also noticed Haley pushes Worrnicy into field when its the last ready for the high ball, least Calland has fixed that problem.
Heres hoping for next Thursday, we've blown 3 chances of something special this season (cup semi, finishing top, last night ) we have 1 chance left, I just hope we don't finish the season with nothing after having it all in our our destiny for 3/4 of the season.
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| Quote ="chinaman"Sorry to say I told you so but when I brought the topic,"Is Calland Up to It" to the forum after the Sheffield game I was poo pooed by many on here. We were first out played and out thought by Sheffield and Mark Aston. We did not heed the warnings, I can tell you that even then there were a lot of people who, like myself, understand the game, thought we could be heading for a fall. Sorry to say it looks as though we are big time chokers and Mr C is just not up to it. Think he should fall on his sword now as he has clearly lost their support. The team cannot play with any less organisation even if he is back in Lancashire next Thursday.
As the Moody Blues sang Go Now.'"
You were correct, agreed at the time however the thread was locked before i got chance to post on it.
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