Well for me if any player puts on the blue and white for Fax and gives 100% that'll do for me... We've had a few players in loan both short term and long term over the years and some have had huge impacts on the team, Flanagan, Kopzcak etc.... Nobody moaned then... As long as we don't become Hull KR'S bitch I don't see an issue and I don't think Chester or Marshall want that either... Sounds a sensible cost effective business decision to me

What a dark day for Halifax RLFC. Shame on those who have taken our great club down to this level. Fax will always be our team, we will be blue and white forever but until this shameful arrangement ends in tears as it will, and we regain our pride we are done with supporting the club. After well over fifty years of following Fax it breaks my heart to say that but you only live once so city breaks and trips to the dales for us until sense prevails. Birchencliffe, Laphroaig 40 % Mmm!

Talking pooh again chazza

Thankfully not been violated for over a year now, I would tell you that you'd get used to it but that would be a lie, try sneaking some lube in

We were in the sheeite when our ex boys did it, but it still hurts today no matter how hard we try to defend it

Hope everything works out

Personally I have never been a fan of DR and it has annoyed me at times when it has patently been abused. It doesn't look as though it's going to go away anytime soon and whether we like it or not we are not automatically going to be one of the top 4 sides next season. This Championship is going to be hotly contested, week in week out, and the BOD have , in my eyes, taken a pragmatic view that we haven't the funding to match our ambition and have looked at this as our only option, at this time, to try stay in touch. Ian Croad , at one of the forums kept stating that we would only do DR if it suited Fax. Not sure how it will work, only time will tell, but they are the people in charge at this time and will be proven right or wrong over the coming season. Some passionate commentary on this topic and I am saddened to see some stalwarts are voting with their feet. I will continue to support the club as I have for the last 47 years and continue to do so whether this decsion is proven to be the correct one or not.

Ok so say we get some decent players from Hull KR (not going to happen), make it in to the middle eight then all those players disappear and we get absolutely spanked for five games. No thanks.

Don't be such a drama queen, pour yourself a snowball and look forward to next season or did you prefer watching 1950s RL under Harrison?

'Thankfully not been violated for over a year now, I would tell you that you'd get used to it but that would be a lie, try sneaking some lube in'

Hope everything works out Maurice.

What does Harrison's style have to do with this? We have sold out in order to get into the middle eight. But nobody seems to be answering what happens when we get into the middle eight with Hull KR. Chesters says "No way are my players playing in the same league as us" and withdraws them all. Now you are asking actual Halifax RLFC players who haven't had a game all year to step in and perform against SL teams. Fantastic ing idea.

I think you underestimate our new Head Coach. Do you really think he's left a top job at Warrington to be Chris Chesters patsy..........do me a favour.

The only things we'll be selling out of at Christmas are the new playing shirts.

Once again ignoring the actual point because you don't like the answer.

Not really, you've looked into your crystal ball and come up with a worst case scenario. I'm saying that you underestimate our new head coach if you think he would box himself in to such a position.

Is that clear enough for you?

Lots of assumptions in the 'what if' question around Hull KR v Fax in 8 team play off. 1. Hull KR finish in bottom 4 of SL. 2. Fax finish in top 4 of Championship. 3 Fax have loads of Hull KR players playing for us all season. If all that was true at the end of the season then we won't have any Hull KR players in the team as Hull KR will look after their best interests and we will have to look after ours. I am sure the BOD and coaching team are just as much aware of this, as we are, and that situation will have to be dealt with if it comes around. Enjoy the rest of the season (which hasn't even started yet!) we are going to win a few and lose a few, with or without Hull KR players, but at least these games will mean something and we won't be watching 5 drives and a kick rugby.

After the way things have been going I admit I am really excited for the start of the new season more so than I probably have been in at least the last 3 years but after todays announcement I cant help but feel a little bit deflated. I think there are so many questions that need answering that its really hard to know where to start. This is just going to be a general ramble and is going to be all over the place.

I went to the fans forum where it first came up and looking back it seems the club had probably gone quite far down the route of agreeing the partnership by that time. I also got the impression that neither Richard Marshall or Marlon Billy were particularly keen on going down the dual reg route and it felt from what the directors and Craig Poskitt had said it was more them that were pushing for it. I saw someone mention earlier that maybe RM was not happy with the squad that he had inherited but I believe that this is the polar opposite of the truth and he is happier than he thought he might be.

Michael Steele says in his statement that this announcement shows how we will bridge the gap to the teams spending more money than us. Im struggling to get my head around it really and how that is going to happen, Ok if it were a top team I could see how getting first teams coming back from injury or young players could help us on the field, I mean look how well Workington did with the Wigan link up. Its not a top team and no disrespect to Hull KR I really cant think of many of their first team that could come in to the team and have the desired effect that we may be looking for that is unless we brought in say 3 or 4 of them and its pretty unlikely that would happen. Their youth system is pretty much pee poor and I honestly can not see us benefiting from taking many if any of their young lads thinking they will improve our team.

I get the Chester and Gene thing and know Chester especially will try to have Fax's best interests at heart but we would still have to be the first dual reg Championship club not to get abused in this system if it is true what the club have said is going to happen. That is the big question though and will that actually be the case? As much as I get the links to ex players and everything I still harp back to my point above trying to figure out on the field if the link is really going to do us that many favours.

Team morale is a big thing and I doubt our players are in favour of this type of set up and again questions have to be asked how its going to run. I take it KR offer us a player we then say yes or no, if we say no then I guess said player gets offered to Gateshead and they probably say yes. From a purely selfish point of view this could mean one of our young lads misses out on a game because Hull Kr are obviously 'the boss' when it comes to the arrangement. This problem is obviously made worse by the clubs decision not to run a second team which also leads to the questions about the scouting idea that came up.



This I do not get, we scout local schools and clubs in the area for the sole benefit of Hull Kr. Well it cant be for our benefit because these young lads do not have a team to play in so this can only be for the sake of Hull Kr trying to tap in to the obvious talent that is in the area. You only have to look at a couple of the Siddal teams coming through and its plain to see it would take a minor miracle if any of the lads who are good enough to make it at a high level are snapped up by Fax, obviously thats no change from recent years, but how does that change now with the new agreement? Now again I could see how this could benefit us if we had teams for the lads to progress in as we would have the benefit of using the Robins scouting network(not that it appears to be great to be fair) that could save the club money.

Maybe the off field stuff makes it worthwhile and the Robins are running their business a lot better than us and we can learn a lot from them. Is that the case though? I mean on our board we have a few guys running successful businesses and I would think when it comes to running the club they are able to do a pretty good job without any other help(obviously monetary help would be different). Again though there is really no harm in listening to other ideas and we might be able to pick something up.



Meh not really sure what to say on that quote, its basically a think tank by the sounds of it but I thought we already had something like that going on. Once again though if this will save the club money because Hull KR will let us use some of their facilities or goods that will help in this regard then its all good but I would think its mainly stuff the club already can get its hands on given the nature of the clubs directors or sponsors work.

Ramble just about over and as mentioned I think if it benefits the club then it could be a good and shrewd move and that is really all that any of us want, Im just struggling to get my head around it at the moment. Yes its going to cause a heated debate but as has been said the best thing we can do is to try and get behind the team in what could prove to be an exciting era for the club and I dont think we should let this decision dampen our excitement just yet. It would be a real shame if the club lost fans because of this decision.

I think most coached will tell you that 99% of ther job is the development & well being of players they're in contact with regardless of were they come from.
The club will grow or die by the decision made by the board

Worst case scenario? Fax getting into the middle eight is the worst case scenario?

The naivety on this thread astounds me. This will be no different to any of the others that has failed massively in the past few years. All we will succeed in doing is driving away our own players and making RM's job even harder.

Is the other 1% results?

Yes your right, it's a big call but I don't think there was any other choice, we've made a nice big hole for ourselves over the last 3 years.

Except now if RM does his job well enough some of his squad could just disappear back to the mothership.

Drive which players away? The ones we spent thousands on developing from youth, or the ones who have had 7 clubs already having not made it at the top level, and playing for tuppence? With any competition for places last year, 75% of the squad shouldn't have made the match 17. Any professional worth their salt would welcome improvements to their squad. A successful team is not made of 17 players, as we so readily demonstrated in 2014.

I think why people are so precious is because they believe Halifax are too big for DR, that we don't need it. That it would undermine our efforts to become a SL club. Thing is, as soon as we ballsed up last season and didn't finish 2nd, we were put in a position where we DO need it. We need extra resources. The new structure means we are no longer a top club in our division. All that counts is, for the first time in a while, what happens on the pitch. If the HKR players which play or turd, the gamble has failed. If they help us win more games, it has succeeded.

Your scenario was based around Fax getting into the top 8 on the back of a load of Hull KR players then the rug being pulled away by 'our masters'. I'm saying Richards smarter than that. The only person that drove players away was our last coach.

In all honesty no its not about results.Results take care of themselves.The 1% was more about the link between the playing side and the the board.
Thers always a choice mate.I hope your not digging a bigger hole with this decision,the same as the Leigh club did

I suggest you look at the U19s league table before making comments on their youth system.

That about sums it up for the vast majority.

All the concerns and questions we have about this must have been asked and carefully considered by the club before entering into this arrangement.

Instead of speculating either way why not wait to see how it gets applied to us and then make an informed decision on actual facts.

Bye!

I am struggling to work out why some long time fans are so against the club trying to level a very unlevel playing field, yet they, I assume would be quite happy to continue their valued support if the club continued to slide lower down the league while our competitors improve by using systems that the RFL have put in place.