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| Quote ="faxfan"Jbfax you really are boring.
The whole why was Martin Hall on holiday when should he go on holiday? We had this whole debate last year....he is not the coach. Most of his job is done off season signing new players so he therefore has to go on holiday at some point. Stop posting stupid comments without knowing what his job entails, its just embarrassing'"
Hall was present for the signing of Ostick, However he wasn't for the Swinton game and games either side. He also wasn't on holiday he was out of the country for a month or so to do work on his house in said country. When you are running a business (supposedly) on a professional footing, I am not sure he should be away for such a long period mid-season.......
Calland and Co were left in charge of coaching maters, selecting the team etc, in Halls absence (as usual). Maybe Hall if around would have checked Osticks admin, contract etc as he does the paperwork etc for the club and assumed such a basic task was well within the coaching staffs abilities . . . . . . . . Apparently not and maybe the reason for Callands suspension???
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| Lets be honest here, this may not be just about this incident, this may be the straw that breaks the camels back, Matt may well have some good coaching skills midweek and some nice looking badges, I dont wish the guy any malice when Ive spoken to him hes not at all the way some paint him out to be, but for his first coaching role at this level his learning curve and mistakes have not only cost him dear but had an effect on lots of other things, this investigation may or may not absolve him but he has continually made mistakes since he took over and been given chances to overcome his own problems and that of his team, we really had no other choice, this constant state of unfilled potential and making all the wrong headlines has to end somewhere, Halifax RLFC has a fantastic history and great potential. We certainly dont need to be worried about upsetting one man, none of them are bigger than the club and well be fine without him should it come to that. Onwards and upwards, you never know this may release a huge weight from some of the players too. Well done for taking this action Mr Steele, I applaud you today, it was the right thing to do.
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| Quote ="Number Cruncher"Why are you all trying to draw your own conclusions about who is & who isn't to blame?'"
Without the facts, what are we left with other than speculation?
There is a chain of command and someone has to be held responsible.
Quote ="Number Cruncher"Were any of you actually present when Ostick was signed or team was selected for Swinton? NO!
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What's that got to do with it? Maybe if Shayfax had been there, this whole sorry mess wouldn't have happened!!!
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| Quote ="Trustafox"Wouldn't be too sure, he taught me PE, and I'm still awful at RL'"
Bally has managed to get the school team to the national final again this year after winning it last year. The guys done good. Give him some credit.
Perhaps you were just beyond help. Even the therapists have probably given up on you.
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| No Calland incharge for Sunday? Ey we stand a good chance of winning now.
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| We cannot really speculate what is going to happen regarding responsibility for the Ostick fiasco but must wait and see. At least the matter does seem to be being dealt with properly.
I am surprised that this affair has not been branded 'Ostickgate'.....all other mess-ups seem to get the 'gate' suffix.
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| What a bad few days for the clubs reputation, the chance of a good cup run gone. the morale of the team right now can't be good.
plus the RFL would have been looking for a good reason to not give us a franchise and we have just dangled the excuse right in front of there faces.
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| Quote ="faxfox"We cannot really speculate what is going to happen regarding responsibility for the Ostick fiasco but must wait and see. At least the matter does seem to be being dealt with properly.
I am surprised that this affair has not been branded 'Ostickgate'.....all other mess-ups seem to get the 'gate' suffix.'"
....but only for a first of (fence)
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"....but only for a first of(fence)
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| Quote ="dazednconfused"Bally has managed to get the school team to the national final again this year after winning it last year. The guys done good. Give him some credit.
Perhaps you were just beyond help. Even the therapists have probably given up on you.'"
Obviously I wasn't being serious and giving my own lack of ability as a reason to not have him coaching! I'm sure between him, Hall and Gene we have a solid enough group of people to look after on field matters.
Added to this, hasn't Gibbo just won cup with the college lads? If Ball was to step up on a temprary basis there's no reason either Stanley, or someone like Gibbo couldn't fill in for the role he moves up from is there? Suspending Matt could be beneficial, if we do well without him, he could go for gross misconduct, if we fall to pieces, he can come back!
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| Quote ="Trustafox"Obviously I wasn't being serious and giving my own lack of ability as a reason to not have him coaching!
I'm sure between him, Hall and Gene we have a solid enough group of people to look after on field matters.
Added to this, hasn't Gibbo just won cup with the college lads? If Ball was to step up on a temprary basis there's no reason either Stanley, or someone like Gibbo couldn't fill in for the role he moves up from is there? Suspending Matt could be beneficial, if we do well without him, he could go for gross misconduct, if we fall to pieces, he can come back!'"
Let us all pray we beat Barrow then Come on Fax
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| A week to forget.
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| Quote ="urbancarrot"I will be in the minority with my views but i think it will be sad if we were to lose Matt as coach. OK he has had his problems but he is a young upcoming BRITISH coach still learning his trade.'"
Totally agree. It's sad that some on here are "dancing on his grave" so to speak, after making a significant contirubtion towards making watching Halifax RLFC become a pleasure rather than a chore. But that's "fans" for you.
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| Trying to look to be on the higher ground again Tony Fax huh! Give it a rest.
I'm surprised not more people are calling for Ostick to be dropped, after all he is the one person who knows 100% if he is cup tied surely. The fans know the rules and most on the forums so why not him, he's turned out to be the clubs most expensive player for a longtime!
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Totally agree. It's sad that some on here are "dancing on his grave" so to speak, after making a significant contirubtion towards making watching Halifax RLFC become a pleasure rather than a chore. But that's "fans" for you.'"
Tony your a legend Do you work for Gordon Brown in your spare time
Every club needs people like you though.
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| TF would side with anyone if it meant he looked to be taking the moral high ground and be a better fan then all of us. He'd start an argument with himself in an empty room.
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| Quote ="justthebasicfax"Tony your a legend
Do you work for Gordon Brown in your spare time
Every club needs people like you though.
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Speaking of which:
Sky News - 'Gordon Brown Quits as PM'
Just how high up does this Fax scandal go?
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| Quote ="Waddy-Fax"TF would side with anyone if it meant he looked to be taking the moral high ground and be a better fan then all of us. He'd start an argument with himself in an empty room.'"
Hell be back on later with a reposte no doubt.
Today our club can finally move forward from a sorry period of under achieving, may be a few more bumps yet, but its all coming to a head, which it needed.
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| Quote ="Waddy-Fax"Trying to look to be on the higher ground again Tony Fax huh! Give it a rest.'"
Better than watching it constantly from the gutter like yersen
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| Quote ="justthebasicfax"Gordon Brown'"
Brown is my hero. I can't believe he didn't win
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Brown is my hero. I can't believe he didn't win
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A man with absolutely no charisma, no decorum and lifeless who people cannot abide to deal with is your hero . . . . . . . . . . You are Gordon Brown and I claim my £5
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| Quote ="Trustafox"Wouldn't be too sure, he taught me PE, and I'm still awful at RL'"
Is it his fault that you fail to pay your rent and council tax as well?
Sorry mate couldn't resist that one.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Better than watching it constantly from the gutter like yersen
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I've never been to your house though.
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| Dont rate calland as a coach, but this is looking for a scapegoat blaming him. Martin Hall is the guilty party here this type of issue should be his bag.....what does he actually do from 9-5, 7 days a week.
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