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| I don't understand the bitterness from some of our fans with respect to last night's loss on the field, really, to criticise the stated attendance, to state "fat coach", no fans etc etc etc really does read embarrassingly for me & I hope people regret making those comments.
First things first, call Aston what you like, but he get's his side up for the so called big games, and they're the currnet champions, he'll be laughing into his spam & double egg butty this morning no doubt, we got spanked last night.
The no fans bit is all a little boring now, we're not in such good shape ourselves by recent season's comparisons looking at our home attendances, i myself have only been to one home game in the last seven for various reasons, but 1,500 average is alarming. Fev away & last night tells me that there is still the interest to follow our team for the important away games, indeed, i really wish this morning i was looking forward to London away in the challenge cup quarter finals, so if the Eagles pull that tie, the very best of luck to them and for the rest of the cup campaign, let's hope it amounts to damaging their league results a'la Fev last year & doesn't have the opposite effect in giving them improved confidence 'cos if that happens, there'll only be one winner in the other comps.
I really do think that our injuries & team selections due to the injuries are hampering what we want to do on the field and every club goes through such periods, but Sheffield looked far quicker in defence & worked our forwards over just like Fev did, they kicked better than we did, they dominated field position & at no time during the game did i feel we were good enough to win. The Worrincey incident/wrong option did cost us when they scored and we were on top at that moment but they came away & punished our error. BUT, if there hadn't been a man in support you'd simply call it a great try saving tackle. I'm not gonna slate his efforts last night, his energy should have been infectious, he worked very hard & yet again coped well with their obvious kicking plan. There's nothing to say that a pass would have guaranteed a score, but he took the wrong option fair do's.
Luke was again the pick of the forwards by a long way, i'll leave it at that, but great shift last night Luke lad.
The subs bench, gameplan, interchanges etc must have been disastrous with Scott's injury on thursday night. The draw was made a couple of weeks ago, the coach's will have had the gameplan set and once sunday's game was out of the way and injuries assessed the focus intensified during the week. Any team would miss the contributions Murrell has made this season but we're gonna have to cope, so how important does a trip to Dewsbury on thursday now become ? I know my feelings but we will need to be fit & healthy to win there.
It's the performances that worry me, i can just about cope with losing. Losing to a better team like last night and at Fev hurts me to watch but we get a chance to erase last night on thursday.
Robinson & Adamson's contributions are being missed & Morro was a total wrecking ball for the reserves on thursday, I can see him getting some gametime if he's anything like fit.
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| Littlerich we beat Sheffield when they had not played a single game and we had played a few warm ups, and even then we struggled and only just beat them. Leigh were awful and aren't as good as people think.
Batley away we were lucky to get a draw after the last 20 minute spell.Its ok hammering lower teams but I'd like to play well and compete against the other top teams.
I can handle losing, not like last night, that was a woeful performance, we looked uncoached. Kicking out in full, knock on from 2 players fannying around deciding who will collect the ball from a kick, awful touch line kicks from penalties where the touch judge had to run backwards, players who cant pass on a 2 on 1, no speed in defence instead waiting for them to come to us, we made Sheffield look good last night.
I didn't expect us to go unbeaten, no knee jerk reaction here yet... but to not do the basics at this level is a bit poor, there professional coach players playing at a decent level. Ambler, Manning and Worrincy played well, that's it. Against Fev I could see why we got beat, their forwards hammered ours, last night we weren't dominated to that extent up front but the basic errors cost us.
Im annoyed as its a potential nice little earner for the club they have missed out on in the next round.
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| Excellent post marillion man.
Was having a chat on Twitter with little rich last night and I said you can say what you want about Tubbs but he's the best coach in the competition and players want to play for him.
Good point with the crowd baiting also. I don't really care to be honest, there could be me, my old man and no one else as long as we won the game, there did look to be more than the stated figure, but whatever!
I could understand it if Fax were drawing crowds of 5k or 6k, but you're not! We've only had one crowd of <1k in the league this season, you're averaging 1.5k. Hardly anything to write home about is it?
But like I said, thoroughly unimportant. It's on the pitch that matters and we're in the hat, and I'm delighted.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Bless, looking forward to your 'other' club's game tomorrow ?
Huddersfield v Leeds, remember when Hudds 'swallowed you lot up' ???
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| Quote ="littlerich"We have beaten the big teams. We beat Sheffield. We bitch slapped Leigh. If people thought we're going to go through the season undefeated then you were on a hiding to nothing. In previous seasons we lost silly matches against opposition we should have beaten (Featherstone themselves have lost against York). As yet we have not done this.
People, straighten your knees, they're jerking unnecessarily.
Up the Fax!!!!!!'"
Littlerich my Yorky buddy , i admire your loyalty i told you and the other Fax fans a few weeks ago about premature backslapping and self praise , as for bitch slapping Leigh you beat us , and deservadly , everything you did went right that day , Leigh were shocking , we all have them days ,last season Fax and Big Karl , lived on Leighs fireplace wake up you are not as good as you thought you are .
The seagulls are a decent side , Charlie predicted a seagulls win i said a couple of weeks ago , you aint won nowt yet , and its showing ,Worrincy isnt a bad player , get his pic on your bog door and repent see you at the LSV soon .Charlie knew .
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| Quote ="marillion man"I don't understand the bitterness from some of our fans with respect to last night's loss on the field, really, to criticise the stated attendance, to state "fat coach", no fans etc etc etc really does read embarrassingly for me & I hope people regret making those comments.
First things first, call Aston what you like, but he get's his side up for the so called big games, and they're the currnet champions, he'll be laughing into his spam & double egg butty this morning no doubt, we got spanked last night.
The no fans bit is all a little boring now, we're not in such good shape ourselves by recent season's comparisons looking at our home attendances, i myself have only been to one home game in the last seven for various reasons, but 1,500 average is alarming. Fev away & last night tells me that there is still the interest to follow our team for the important away games, indeed, i really wish this morning i was looking forward to London away in the challenge cup quarter finals, so if the Eagles pull that tie, the very best of luck to them and for the rest of the cup campaign, let's hope it amounts to damaging their league results a'la Fev last year & doesn't have the opposite effect in giving them improved confidence 'cos if that happens, there'll only be one winner in the other comps.
I really do think that our injuries & team selections due to the injuries are hampering what we want to do on the field and every club goes through such periods, but Sheffield looked far quicker in defence & worked our forwards over just like Fev did, they kicked better than we did, they dominated field position & at no time during the game did i feel we were good enough to win. The Worrincey incident/wrong option did cost us when they scored and we were on top at that moment but they came away & punished our error. BUT, if there hadn't been a man in support you'd simply call it a great try saving tackle. I'm not gonna slate his efforts last night, his energy should have been infectious, he worked very hard & yet again coped well with their obvious kicking plan. There's nothing to say that a pass would have guaranteed a score, but he took the wrong option fair do's.
Luke was again the pick of the forwards by a long way, i'll leave it at that, but great shift last night Luke lad.
The subs bench, gameplan, interchanges etc must have been disastrous with Scott's injury on thursday night. The draw was made a couple of weeks ago, the coach's will have had the gameplan set and once sunday's game was out of the way and injuries assessed the focus intensified during the week. Any team would miss the contributions Murrell has made this season but we're gonna have to cope, so how important does a trip to Dewsbury on thursday now become ? I know my feelings but we will need to be fit & healthy to win there.
It's the performances that worry me, i can just about cope with losing. Losing to a better team like last night and at Fev hurts me to watch but we get a chance to erase last night on thursday.
Robinson & Adamson's contributions are being missed & Morro was a total wrecking ball for the reserves on thursday, I can see him getting some gametime if he's anything like fit.'"
I agree about Worrincy's hard work throughout the night, and I like his speed and constant coming in field to look for work (because we don't seem to want to get it out to him on the wing). BUT why have no coaches worked with him to teach him how to actually pass the ball. I go to most games with my granddaughter and we have a game to see who can spot a Worrincy pass. Last season we saw 1. Now if I know that all other players know that and under no circumstances would they ever take a dummy from him. There was a couple of occasions last season where we missed tries because he didn't pass to the player on the inside and last night it was a act of self implosion, as it would have taken us to within 2 points with us on a roll had he passed. Karl has to work on this element of his game....... Please......
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| Thought we bossed the game for much of it to be honest but poor options and lapses cost us.
We are probably about 1 or 2 real quality players from having the best team in this division and without Murrell last night I thought it just highlighted a lot of the problems we had for much of last season. Its clear to everyone watching last night we need a good hooker and we need one now.
Our distribution from acting half is crap to put it politley and the ball is far too slow to Handforth and Thackery giving them little space to work with and in turn poor options from them under pressure just seem to compound the problem.
We threw the game away last night and I didnt think Sheffield really had to do much to beat us as I didnt think they played that well either but it easy to look decent against a team that struggles to get past the third tackle on many occasions.
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| Agreed.
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| Quote ="E.S.O"Wigan Athletic have been surviving in the Premier League on crowds of c. 15000 for years now. They have a chance to lift the FA Cup tomorrow. You don't win games in the stands.
FWIW if Worrincy doesn't have that complete brainfart I think you win. You'd have been 2 behind with your tails up rather than 14 down.'"
er Wigan Athletic have Dave Whelan and his DW Sports millions thats why they stay up!!!
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| Quote ="E.S.O"Excellent post marillion man.
Was having a chat on Twitter with little rich last night and I said you can say what you want about Tubbs but he's the best coach in the competition and players want to play for him.
Good point with the crowd baiting also. I don't really care to be honest, there could be me, my old man and no one else as long as we won the game, there did look to be more than the stated figure, but whatever!
I could understand it if Fax were drawing crowds of 5k or 6k, but you're not! We've only had one crowd of <1k in the league this season, you're averaging 1.5k. Hardly anything to write home about is it?
But like I said, thoroughly unimportant. It's on the pitch that matters and we're in the hat, and I'm delighted.'"
The crowds you have put for your games this season tells a lie surely, otherwise where did your other 650 fans go last night???
The crowd was poor last night I walked up to the back of the stand at half time to find somebody and it was 2/3 Halifax (say 450) 1/3 Sheffield (say 237) so like I say if you are getting 1K crowds where are the other Eagles fans? Yer we aint setting the world alight with our gates but at least they are TRUE gates not bean counting free tickets issued which you are allowed to do stupidly in my opinion.
My big question is how do you afford to keep such a good squad on such low crowds???
Something just does not stack up for me, who is bankrolling you?
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Thought we bossed the game for much of it to be honest but poor options and lapses cost us.
We are probably about 1 or 2 real quality players from having the best team in this division and without Murrell last night I thought it just highlighted a lot of the problems we had for much of last season. Its clear to everyone watching last night we need a good hooker and we need one now.
Our distribution from acting half is crap to put it politley and the ball is far too slow to Handforth and Thackery giving them little space to work with and in turn poor options from them under pressure just seem to compound the problem.
We threw the game away last night and I didnt think Sheffield really had to do much to beat us as I didnt think they played that well either but it easy to look decent against a team that struggles to get past the third tackle on many occasions.'"
poor last night lost far too much ball on 1st or 2nd tackle we lost any momentum we built, hate Don valley too far away to see and no atmosphere glad we aint going there again or are we there for the league game?
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"The crowds you have put for your games this season tells a lie surely, otherwise where did your other 650 fans go last night???
The crowd was poor last night I walked up to the back of the stand at half time to find somebody and it was 2/3 Halifax (say 450) 1/3 Sheffield (say 237) so like I say if you are getting 1K crowds where are the other Eagles fans? Yer we aint setting the world alight with our gates but at least they are TRUE gates not bean counting free tickets issued which you are allowed to do stupidly in my opinion.
My big question is how do you afford to keep such a good squad on such low crowds???
Something just does not stack up for me, who is bankrolling you?'"
It's the same blokes that set the club up 13 years ago.
No secrets, spend within your means, improve year on year, and importantly for us stability with a good coach who attracts good players.
We're not paying big wages believe me.
And what free tickets? The club introduced free U16 ST's to try and get the kids in but other than that there aren't any free tickets.
I will reiterate again, you don't win matches in the stands you win them on the pitch. Would there be all this bleating about the crowd had you won? Doubt it somehow.
Concentrate on yourselves, we'll concentrate on our Challenge Cup Quarter Final and retaining the Championship.
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| I think young james has you "in check" F4L
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| " Be friends you fools be friends "
Henry V.
Poor old Zak Hardaker just dropped a bomb and paid for it straight away.
My only contribution to this topic is "that was no Eagle it was a bloody duck"
Well done Sheffield.
Brilliant tackle by Hardaker but Leeds break away and score a superb try.
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| Quote ="E.S.O"It's the same blokes that set the club up 13 years ago.
No secrets, spend within your means, improve year on year, and importantly for us stability with a good coach who attracts good players.
We're not paying big wages believe me.
And what free tickets? The club introduced free U16 ST's to try and get the kids in but other than that there aren't any free tickets.
I will reiterate again, you don't win matches in the stands you win them on the pitch. Would there be all this bleating about the crowd had you won? Doubt it somehow.
Concentrate on yourselves, we'll concentrate on our Challenge Cup Quarter Final and retaining the Championship.
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On the pitch you won and fair dos you deserved it no argument and you have a good team, my question remains about your crowd figures they are inflated surely???
I also ask how do you keep such good players like Quentin Togagae he is SL standard. Maybe Fax should make a bid to get hime next year and test this 'we pay not much' as you say?
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| Ok, last nights' defeat was disappointing, but, if we are to lose any game over the next 3 weeks then last night was the one to lose!! We were never going to win the CC, and a bit of extra money would have been handy if we had won and got a plum draw in the next round, but we could have just as easily ended up playing London home or away or Catalans at home!! And a cup run would have served to tire the squad also
I would much rather win at Dewsbury in the NRC, then bring the 3 points home from Bramall Lane in a fortnight!!
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"On the pitch you won and fair dos you deserved it no argument and you have a good team, my question remains about your crowd figures they are inflated surely???
I also ask how do you keep such good players like Quentin Togagae he is SL standard. Maybe Fax should make a bid to get hime next year and test this 'we pay not much' as you say?'"
Maybe you should.
It worked with Worrincy and Barlow.
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| Quote ="Inoffski1"Ok, last nights' defeat was disappointing, but, if we are to lose any game over the next 3 weeks then last night was the one to lose!! We were never going to win the CC, and a bit of extra money would have been handy if we had won and got a plum draw in the next round, but we could have just as easily ended up playing London home or away or Catalans at home!! And a cup run would have served to tire the squad also
I would much rather win at Dewsbury in the NRC, then bring the 3 points home from Bramall Lane in a fortnight!!'"
I agree plus we would have lost a plum game against Fev at home which will get a far bigger crowd on a Sunday than midweek!
Good luck to Sheffield next round but it will mean they will have to play the league game midweek now which makes it 3 games in 7 or 8 days which is always tough.
We have to beat Dewsbury now though big time, come on lads you can do it lets get over this and go and beat Sheffield the week after in the league.
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"On the pitch you won and fair dos you deserved it no argument and you have a good team, my question remains about your crowd figures they are inflated surely???
I also ask how do you keep such good players like Quentin Togagae he is SL standard. Maybe Fax should make a bid to get hime next year and test this 'we pay not much' as you say?'"
Crowd figures ? Come on - there's comments on these for a that there were more there than announced, now you're saying they're inflated. Inflated or not, they're still not good enough to sustain us in $uperleague.
How do we keep good players ? Giving them regular first team rugby, paying what we promise to pay and not renegotiating contracts halfway through the season, keeping them happy in a pleasant working environment - it all helps.
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