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| Quote ="Les West Guitar God"That would leave us with only Mallony Tamgart possibly Ostik as props'"
Would mean obviously we would need to bring in a couple. Depends how much money we have, but the likes of Hesketh (Batley) as likely we have less money to spend and no point going for broke in a League we are stuck in no matter what we do for the next few years.
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| Quote ="MP"Miles will be back soon so either he or Shad will drop onto the wing. Next years back line for me:
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Worrincy comes inside too much when he should just take the tackle on the wing. This would then enable us to hit up the middle or spread it to the other side of the pitch, thus stretching the oppositions defence line. By him coming inside all the time this option is taken away from us. Just my thoughts.'"
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Greenwood comes back and Royston will move back to 13 wont he? For me Royston and Worrincy have been our best players this season. So why on earth we would get rid of the winger that makes more hard yards and have Haley in the team is beyond me.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Isnt he from the Fax area? Might explain it if he is.'"
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| Its a bit early to be saying things BUT the way this season has gone I would say we need a bit of a clearout at the end of this season and we need to go back to basics and sign younger players, start investing in a youth set up and look at the long term as come on we aint gonna get into SL, not sure anybody is maybe Widnes but will they really have the b*lls to kick out an existing SL team???
Too many 'glory players' in our team and what you need are players like at Batley or look at Hornets (Rochdale as was who were down and out last year), lads that will play as a team and bust a gut because they feel privileged to be in the first team playing at this level. Thats what has annoyed me as we have on paper the best squad but maybe not the right mix and Calland and Hall have been like a kiddie in a sweet shop the last 2 years picking what looks nice, oh lets have a Gleeson despite having 2 good hookers already as an example or oh Stanley Gene and Makali Aizue they must be good (despite being too old come on).
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| Quote ="MP"Worrincy comes inside too much when he should just take the tackle on the wing. This would then enable us to hit up the middle or spread it to the other side of the pitch, thus stretching the oppositions defence line. By him coming inside all the time this option is taken away from us. Just my thoughts.'"
I would agree with that.....but.....is it of his own volition or is it what he is being coached, and instructed, to do?
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| Quote ="faxfox"I would agree with that.....but.....is it of his own volition or is it what he is being coached, and instructed, to do?'"
You don't think by a winger "coming inside" as you put it, might be a competition between his speed and possibly a lack of speed of let's say a retreating prop who might be tiring ?
If the lad stayed out wide and got tackled, he'd be criticised on here in some parts.
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| It always amazes me when fans sat around me grumble when Worrincy runs sideways!
First of all a winger has to be fit enough to do this, as it significantly increases his work rate
He is tactically doing a few things here
1) There is no gap straight ahead, and therefore he would be tackled instantly, thus not giving our side time to get back and set up when under pressure, or after an attack that has broken down
2) There is no gap straight ahead and therefore, by running sideways the attaching player is trying to create a gap, by running at speed across a defence
3) Is looking for another player to make himself available or pass that would further split a retreating defence
4) A player running sideways or crabbing makes the defenders work harder
I did not see the feature but i believe Brain Carney ran a similar article on sky the other week, one conclusion being that running sideways can if used effectively be a sound tactic!
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| What an absolute load of rubbish. I agree jonnie.
Worrincey was the consistent player in our very lean spell. He has got us out of many holes this season, he has been a prolific tryscorer, he has dominated god knows how many tackles and won numerous quick plays or penalties, by crabbing and isolating defenders. I don't know what the lad has to do to be appreciated...probably go to a club whose fans know anything about rugby....if one exists.
mp, if you think that the best place to build play from is the touchline, then your argument is immediately flawed...and as boots said, comical.
Frank has been our best prop, consistently, this season, and is the heart and soul of the club. We would miss him.
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| I agree Jonnie.
Rob causes havoc with defences 9 out of 10 times. Not only does he look for the gaps, but he also drags the opposition defence out of position, opening up a gap for the supporting player.
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| Many years ago, "Nosey" Parker tried to take the club over but failed in a somewhat embarassing manner.
Prior to this he was a supporter just like the rest of us.
I think he some "issues" which influence his attitude to Halifax RLFC.
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| Todays Courier does indeed bring this into the public domain, something is going on for sure.
My own opinion is just my own, Stanley has been poor by his own standards, as has Makali, compare those two to the improving younger players like Bannister and Ostick and the way forward is pretty simple and we wont need Sir John Harvey Jones to work out the cost benefits, whether there is more too it i dont know.
Well have to wait and see whats behind all this though, sometimes the things you dont say, speak louder than the things you do.
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| For those of us, who dont live local and cant rely on the courier website, what exactly does it say?
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| Swap ya Gene for Ford?
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| Quote ="Halifax1987"For those of us, who dont live local and cant rely on the courier website, what exactly does it say?'"
says gene faces formal disciplinery procedures over something unspecific.also interesting is that hes unlikely to play the 20+ fixtures to trigger a second yr contract.
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| thanks for that.
Wonder if the 20 games clause is a standard thing in all the 2 year deals ?
Obviously we could still keep players who haven't met this criteria if we wanted to, but it does offer the club some protection.
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Quote ="Halifax1987"For those of us, who dont live local and cant rely on the courier website, what exactly does it say?'"
HALIFAX are believed to be instigating disciplinary proceedings against Papua New Guinea international Stanley Gene
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/local/G ... 6377134.jp
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HALIFAX are believed to be instigating disciplinary proceedings against Papua New Guinea international Stanley Gene
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/local/G ... 6377134.jp
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Seems a pretty cloak and dagger way of going about trimming your squad, Stanley is a lovely bloke
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Seems a pretty cloak and dagger way of going about trimming your squad, Stanley is a lovely bloke
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Thanks, I notice the story didn't go online till after 4 PM today.
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Thanks, I notice the story didn't go online till after 4 PM today.
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| Quote ="Halifax1987"Thanks, I notice the story didn't go online till after 4 PM today.'"
Not realy .now the website is usually at least a day behind
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Seems a pretty cloak and dagger way of going about trimming your squad, Stanley is a lovely bloke'"
Let's wait and see what the clubs investigation finds first.
Perhaps this thread should be locked untill the clubs investigations are completed
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Seems a pretty cloak and dagger way of going about trimming your squad, Stanley is a lovely bloke'"
Wonder if they took any action after last years nines. Dont worry Phil our club has been a joke from top to bottom this season. We are in a mess and we can only hope that someone comes in to sort it sooner rather than later.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Wonder if they took any action after last years nines.
Dont worry Phil our club has been a joke from top to bottom this season. We are in a mess and we can only hope that someone comes in to sort it sooner rather than later.'"
Third in the table is a disaster. New stand is a disaster. Everything is a disaster man. I'm going to burn everything I have that's blue and white until a magical guardian angel comes along to rescue us from all this disaster.
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| We've always been atrocious at communication, this is where people jump down my neck!
This is par for the course, but i can safely say that unless theres wholesale changes at the club, the way its run, coached and marketed, I shall be finishing Alfred Wainwrights walks next year instead. Im done with these jokers and the season cant end soon enough... I cant bear to see us in such a state.
What on earth were we doing buying so many old players when we already had our GF box ticked.
Im gonna post some more Terry Jacks soon, but im not sure we had joy or fun from our seasons in the Sun, its becoming a chore, and the constant headlines and dubious progress reports which would have us fifth or 6th if they actually took into account the fact that were 2 SL clubs light in this league and people have games in hand. Were a mess.
We need a saviour!
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| Quote ="littlerich"Third in the table is a disaster. New stand is a disaster. Everything is a disaster man. I'm going to burn everything I have that's blue and white until a magical guardian angel comes along to rescue us from all this disaster.'"
Ask Michael Steele if he thinks this season has been a disaster. Im sure he will be diplomatic about it but when another director is going round telling people what a mess we are in its hard to put a good spin on it. Third is ok, with the squad we have you would expect better i feel. NRC, less said the better. CC, well just another basic cock up. As for the new stand, yep it all looks very pretty unfortunatley in their wisdom the club thought the stand been finished would make hundreds of extra people turn up. Its never happened and if the 3000 figure that was mentioned at the begining of the season is correct then its easy to see why there is a shortage of money. Add to that the training facility fiasco at the begining of the season and players slagging the coach off in public and also telling people they havnt been paid and its easy to see that it hasnt been the best.
Best thing that can happen now is us get to the Grand Final and then hope that the fallout dosnt occur till afterwards or lets hope we can get a couple of extra good business men on the board again.
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