I see no benefit to us of DR,maybe there are people out there who can educate us sceptics? Take the scenario we have a centre out injured for a month so we bring a loan player in for a month..simple.The DR route..well you can have a.n.other this week and maybe next or if we get injuries he'll be recalled etc etc it's bollox and makes any planning impossible.Add the damage it may do if someone in the squad is awaiting a call up only to find when his chance arrives his place has gone to DR.

I'm not certain, but I would guess that it's been a lot harder to get players in on loan once the SL clubs have DR agreements in place. Obviously in 2015 things should be a little different with the reduction in SL club numbers plus Leigh's ditching of DR and Swinton etc's relegations.

I agree with Hudds' & his feelings re- D/R.

I stopped watching the team last season on the basis of the lack of entertainment being served up, it was the only way i saw fit, to vote with my feet, in protest if you like. I noted my feelings to half of our b.o.d. I warned them of the falling gates & revenue stream & made those comments based on what other previously long-time loyal supporters were saying to me. Let's face it, we weren't wrong !!
Now we must move on & look to the future, it goes without saying, but D/R is wrong, the whole moral/ethic of it is wrong. I don't really know what the new coach can do other than investigate all avenues & credit to him for laying his cards on the table so early in the piece with this topic refusing to go away it looks to me like it will happen one way or another.

What i do find sad is the comments criticising Hudd's for standing up for what he believes in on an online forum, or of anyone else for that matter. If clubs continue to lose support from the terraces like ours have over the last decade or so, because of whatever reason, i see no future because it's possible there'll be no club to support potentially.

Let's look at another scenario, let's say we all packed up & stopped following Halifax RLFC, yet a Dr Koucash type figure emerged from somewhere to plough in millions of pounds because he found himself a new weekend pass-time. Let's say, on the back of all his wealthy input, the team under-performed, achieved no noteworthy success to celebrate and recorded losses of let's say
£ 5 million in it's annual reports. Would that type of supporting our team still have the same proud feeling for those who remained ? You know, having been successful in your own lifetime supporting them, almost perennial yo-yo relegation - promotion candidates, boom & bust, have to leave your traditional home and move into a different stadium, team managers/coaches by the boat load etc etc etc

I think we should be careful what we wish for, but from what i'm hearing, the style of play that is being currently coached & practiced by Halifax is radfically & tactically different from the garbage that kept the likes of me away for over half of last season so hopefully entertainment will be there for us again rather than blind loyalty.

Yorkshire tea 0%, got a night shift to work later today, not MMMMM....

Good post.hope there's 100s more supporters like you who have voted with their feet who can be enticed back next season.Only downside for me is bigger queues in SSB.

Quote ="NORTON FAX"I have to agree with Mr Hudd-Shay. Dual Reg as long as it benefits. can anyone inform me of a lower league club that has benefited? I can give you examples the other way. Hunslet - dual reg. 5 Rhinos, all decent players, Hood, Moore, Shinehorst etc, but still get relegated. Swinton - Take various Warrington players throughout the season (including Briers and Morley!!!), and get relegated. Some of the best results for these clubs came when the DR players were recalled. At the Forum on Monday the message was TEAM HALIFAX. all DR does is destroy teams & teamwork. Put yourself in the boots of our fringe players, training 4 nights a week and not getting a chance to play because of DR. =#FF0000One of the worst 40 minuets down the Shay by the away team last season was the first half against Leigh. just before half time they withdrew their Wigan DR boys and replaced them with squad players and we all know what happend next. Shortly after that the Centurions announced DR did not work and would be going it alone. DR goes against my principles and I don`t want to follow a team that feels it needs to go down that route'" Well that isn't true Leigh had done away with DR before the start of last season. That day the only 'wigan' player was Sam Hopkins who was on loan back to us after many years at Leigh. No Duel Reg players that day or indeed at all last season. Match report to prove it - www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/ma ... 32,00.html

Quote ="NORTON FAX"I have to agree with Mr Hudd-Shay. Dual Reg as long as it benefits. can anyone inform me of a lower league club that has benefited? I can give you examples the other way. Hunslet - dual reg. 5 Rhinos, all decent players, Hood, Moore, Shinehorst etc, but still get relegated. Swinton - Take various Warrington players throughout the season (including Briers and Morley!!!), and get relegated. Some of the best results for these clubs came when the DR players were recalled. At the Forum on Monday the message was TEAM HALIFAX. all DR does is destroy teams & teamwork. Put yourself in the boots of our fringe players, training 4 nights a week and not getting a chance to play because of DR. =#FF0000One of the worst 40 minuets down the Shay by the away team last season was the first half against Leigh. just before half time they withdrew their Wigan DR boys and replaced them with squad players and we all know what happend next. Shortly after that the Centurions announced DR did not work and would be going it alone. DR goes against my principles and I don`t want to follow a team that feels it needs to go down that route'" Well that isn't true Leigh had done away with DR before the start of last season. That day the only 'wigan' player was Sam Hopkins who was on loan back to us after many years at Leigh. No Duel Reg players that day or indeed at all last season. Match report to prove it - www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/ma ... 32,00.html

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story !

Voting with our feet means less money for the future if things don't work out. Luckily the directors don't do it.
Don't like summer Rugby? Stay away.
Don't like leaving Thrum Hall? Stay away.
That's exactly what thousands have done.
Don't like dual reg? Stay away.
Or ride it, the above two were necessary,
If Dual Reg occurs then perhaps that is necessary.
We need to pull together this season, as Mr Steel said, don't let us hamstring our new coach before he has begun.
Keep the faith,.
Please

It's very heartening to read the support on here. Let'sjjust hope we are worrying about nowt! Up the Fax!

Worrying about tomorrow spoils today.

Prevention is better than a cure.

A bird in the hand is worth two in a bush.

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I'd rather have 2 in a bush.

The off thread Guardianistas are watching.

An apple a day makes 365 a year.

So would I if the said aussies were Fax players. Indeed at one stage in the past we almost had a full team of 'em. Jubilee Refreshment Rooms, Sowerby Bridge. Elland Catch The Rainbow 4.1 % Mmm!

If you believe that we would have complete control of other clubs players and that it would benefit Fax in the long run to go DR you're truly deluded I have to say.

I don't believe that I suggested we will have complete control of their players, merely that we wouldn't be forced to accept players that would not benefit our team eg short term loans to get their first teamers match fit.
I also don't think that it will benefit us in the long run, but it may assist Richard Marshall to bring in the type of player that he wishes to make up his team until contracts begin to expire. Let's face it, Karl's recruitment in prior seasons wasn't always faultless.
I wish the RFL would scrap the whole system so that every team could be starting from a level pegging, but I don't think our friend, Mr Wood would see common sense if it slapped him in the face.

Fair enough but we Should have complete control of everything to do with our own team/club surely. It is so belittling to accept owt else. At the end of the day there are some people who may, grudgingly, accept our use of DR for a short period if it benefits us. I haven't met, or heard of anyone who actually wants us to use it or who even think it is morraly right, and I think that says it all. Percy's Moorhouses Santa's Spell 4.0 % Mmm!

Did we? Blimey I didn't know that.

But you have no nead to worry, you won't be there.
Bacardi and coke, dual Reg, 37.5 Mmmmm,

Of course we did, we played in challenge cup finals & won a championship with them amongst other things in the mid-late 80's, Hudd's point is that they weren't on dual/reg from Canterbury Bankstown or some other Aussie club, the were Halifax players for that period and only Halifax players.


I think the safest thing to do in Mr Marshall's situation now is to seek out "season-long" loan deals rather than dual-reg any players he's lining up from SL clubs if they're unable to sign permanent Halifax contracts. Who would that harm ? It's just a different title for the agreement between all parties concerned. Let's imagine the RFL ( or more to the point the greedy SL clubs ) drop the dual-reg system, it'd be termed "loan" deal anyway, just like in the past.

Well said, MM.