Charles has hit the nail on the head - "no urgency". What circumstances bring about that state of mind in players at this stage of the season? Nerves? Fear? Contracts? Where are their heads at??? They can play much better than they have this season. I can only conclude that it's the situation with the training facilities and the coach. We have lost the momentum of 2010-12. As there is virtually no communication coming from the BOD I feel a long period of decline is about to engulf our club.

#realitycheck

I was with you until the 3rd paragraph Joan. Then it made no sense which is what we've all come to expect throughout this dire season.

Very depressed after today.

No urgency, no desire.

The try just before half time summed it up. A break down the left, but the player who scored had run across the field from the other wing. Where was our corresponding winger? Flaming stood watching 60 yards away...

Donny announced a "special" offer on season tickets for fans turning up next Sunday. I'm probably talking out of turn, but attention seems to be focused so much on the 200 or so folks on VIP and dining arrangements (true and stalwart fans most of them are, undoubtedly), that the club are forgetting that they only form a small part of the whole in terms of Fax support. Out in numbers again (ratio looked to be 2:1 in a 900+ crowd), but the faith is wearing very thin...

The " no urgency " was there for all to see in the dyeing minutes of the Fev` game , players stood about while a scrum was being made , fans were screaming at the players to join the scrum as they could have tried for a bonus point .Some players just stood about for ages , didn`t this happen twice as well I just felt that was inexcusable to be honest.

Not as inexcusable as the backing KH gets from the BOD.... When will someone wake up and smell the coffee? I'd rather watch a team of triers, coached and hungry than the dross we currently see.... Budgets, weather and training facilities all part of the endless drivel of excuses the guy spouts.... You could put a team through a decent training session on the moor if needed.... Other sides over the years had the same issues....

Can't see Man Utd training on a moor can you?

I do some coaching for a premier league football club who have spent 100s of millions on a training ground and believe me their rise to success coincides with the improvement in training facilities. They also attract a better quality of player. You won't improve as a player and perform if your needs aren't met where you spend most of your time at the club.

The training facility story, if true, is a shambles, needs sorting and will inhibit our improvement on the pitch and the recruitment of better players

We've managed in the last decade or so.... To even compare this with premier league football is ridiculous.... Halifax Town play in a league which is high profile, they have the same issues yet look where they are....

Don't be so flippant as ever. I wasn't comparing Fax to premier league and you know it. I was merely saying no training facilities is a valid excuse for a few things that could be wrong at the club. At the very least it sends out a poor message about ambition. Would you sign for a club like that?

The clubs outperforming us have better facilities appear more ambitious and are more consistent.

If what Karl says about training facilities is true it's poor and needs sorting and in this area I feel for him. This club is finding its level at the moment and not just through Karl's coaching.

Can't see Man Utd training on the moor can you..... If that's not comparing us excuse my flippancy.....!

The training facilities have been a constant issue for every coach since we left Thrum Hall... KH is the only one to make an excuse out of it as he does the weather etc, etc...

We've also not struggled to sign players either due to facilities....finances are more of a concern.....

Happened throughout the whole of the game. My mates and I were discussing the obvious lack of urgency, particularly to get a scrum formed, in the 'fax team long before halftime.

The clock on the scoreboard yesterday appeared to be the "real" game-time one. Several times, the clock kept on running when the ref had put his hands up to stop it. It didn't matter in the end, but I'd say that the second half (I didn't notice it in the first half) was at least 2-3 minutes short of the full 40 as a result. One stoppage in particular (when one of the players was injured) was over a minute with the clock still running. This also happened (not every time) when scrums had formed and the clock still carry on running.

We make a point of saying that the clock doesn't reflect the actual time remaining, and as such, shouldn't be taken for granted. The guys in the booth (who run the PA, Music, Scoreboard as well as various other things) were a man down yesterday, so things like this can happen.

Charlie knows the way from the Corner Pin to the Keepmoat. That'll do me!

It was very nice to meet you and your good Lady , yesterday , I really enjoyed the game but I can understand most Fax fans not being happy , its looking like a trip to the LSV for you guys ,anyway it was good to sit with my Fax friends have a drink and a chat , hope to see you again soon , if not at the LSV , then maybe at Leeds for the GF .

A strange day yesterday. We went to Donny via Manchester. Got a lift to the ground with three Lancastrians and a lift from Donny back to Lindley with a Halifax Town fan! A great day out only spoiled by the match....again. Talking about the match the moment Pail Cooke put over the one pointer without one Fax player putting any pressure on him whatsoever was the moment the game was lost. Another woeful display and the many fans who made the trip deserve better, a lot better.

Not his greatest weekend !