Wont help that hudds are in the cup final, would be very easy to jump on that bandwagon at the minute, especially if they win it.

I'm sure we met in the club shop last year, and I'm pretty sure that you are not as old as you make out.



Lots of other people are in financial strife as well, mate. And, I'm sure that they also pick and choose where to spend their hard-earned.

And, as for having a bash at Nat; is he not allowed an opinion just as you have with your rants on many threads?

Yes James we did meet in the clubshop and I was born in 1974 and have been taken to games and supported the club since I was 5 so you do the maths. I have no problem with opinions BUT I do have problems with a personal attack such as "Fans like you who come out of the woodwork" I find that insulting.

If you're that sad about the recent four losses, I don't expect your life to take such an upturn that you'll be at the GF when we play there in a few weeks time.

It's only four losses of rugby matches, get a grip....

What on earth are you on about Colin? I really don't understand your response to my posting to TS that you have quoted.

To tackle the bit about "Just 4 Losses" I think just looking at the forum there are many people disappointed at the sheer way the team has collapsed in recent weeks.I'm disappointed at the durge that has been served up in recent weeks. I am disappointed but not just about performances on the field right now. If you read my posts you just might see where I'm coming from.

Come on chaps....we all want the same thing: =blue[size=200FAX TO WIN [/size

I am 1 yr older than you and have too watched fax since I was 5. I take my young lad and his mates to every game, it costs me a fortune (£7 juniors at SE) but win lose or draw, play bad or good I wouldn't miss it for the world.

When Fax score a try and the young lads start singing the song goose pimples come on, these lads are the fax of the future and there not negative about the club when things aren't going there way.

were lucky we've been to wembley and won the ultimate prize, these lads haven't but still they wouldn't see any other team, not like their school mates who wear man u shirts etc...

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I can understand the moderators point, but can see how you feel annoyed as well but hey that's FAX and we love it!

I truley hope you rethink and turn up at Batley if not for your kids sake!

Come on you Blues



We love you Halifax we do, We love you Halifax we do,We love you Halifax we do, oh Halifax we love you.

Oooooooohhh Hali Hali..... Hali Hali Hali Hali Halifax

Were Blue, were White, were f (oops cant use that one anymore, shame)

Were proud of you, were proud of you, were proud of you, were proud.

You are my sunshine, my only sunshine, you make me happy when skies are grey.



Lets not be too hard on Chris Smith, actually hes got a point, were a bit poor lately and a bit of passion and spirit is whats missing, at least HRLFC has a beating heart, i guess we just wanna feel proud that, i suppose even players and people running the club go through disillussioned fazes and need to refocus
'what are we trying to achieve'
I would be saying to all the players and everyone at the club who comes into contact with them.
'Your careers are short, regret things you have done, not what you didnt do, and most importantly of all, succes wont come to them, they will have to go and get it, and bleedin well work hard for it'
Everything will be worth it the end, now get down and give me 50



Lets try keep smiling too

The reason I qouted TS's reply was because it was a continuation of what you were talking about.
If you believe the team has "collapsed" how do you explain them winning for long periods of the Sheffield game ?
The repsonse in the 2nd half against Haven ?
COLLAPSE ??? We were simply beaten by teams who worked us out, that's the nature of the sport.
But, I have a question for all the doubters of this team and indeed the bonus point itself, if Halifax had no stomach, how did they get the bonus point against 'Haven, that was some comeback when it would have been easier just to give in ? Maybe a few truths were told in the dressing rooms at half time, maybe a bit of team tinkering went on, maybe a few players challenged themselves. We, like any other side do not have a divine right to win every game. We're stuck between the devil & the deep blue sea, do we want to watch our team lose by one point like at Cas, but play brilliant ? Or do we want to settle for putting enough points together to finish top ( even if that means scratching around for bonus points when things aren't going our way) ?
I'd rather we finished top, we've been the entertainers, now let's be the champions, we're at the serious end of the season now.

I haven't posted since thursdays game until now so i have had time to mull over it and calm down on the emotions front. I came away from sheffield really down in the dumps and feeling i had wasted my money for the third match in a row swearing i would not go to batley, knowing deep down i wil be their thursday night wearing my fax shirt with pride because no matter what form we're in i love this club and am addicted to watching fax. We should all be used to things not going smoothly and not winning when we should because thats always been the way of Halifax RLFC in my time of supporting (about 14yrs) and i believe we will turn it around starting at batley. Come on guys and gals lets get behind matt and the boys as we always are and give them the lift they dearly need right now. Halifax RLFC onwards and upwards!!

I do want to draw a line under this but I do want to tackle some of this Colin. The team were winning for long periods and were 18-4 up at one stage. Again our ball control and composure let us down (Basic Rugby) Sheffield are well drilled and do the basics very well, but man for man they simply wanted it more than us. A team that on paper should not get anywhere near us. We needed to grind out a result and we were incapable of doing so and failed to even muster your beloved bonus point. Had we tried and been beaten by a better side I don't think this would be the case. We beat ourselves, dropped off tackles and handed the game to Sheffield.

As for Whitehaven, where do I start . . . . . . . . . The worst 65 mins of rugby league in recent years. Players sticking out an arm in an attempt at a tackle, poor ball control, wayward passing and in my opinion a severe lack of backbone. Whitehaven did not work us out we were absolutely appalling and shocking in this period (Hence the booing). The last 15 minutes were against a side who thought they had the game sewn up, tired and lost momentum going forward and would have been VERY unlucky to lose that game. Whitehaven simply switched off, as we did versus Featherstone. Again a game where poor decision making and ill discipline lost us the game.

A game you failed to mention was Widnes, a game I took the day off work to attend (my choice I know) My point is though I'm sure we failed to complete a set of six in the first half and for 15-20 minutes of the second. Again Widnes turned off for the last 15 minutes but they managed to shut the game down and we only managed a couple of consolation trys in this period. A lesser side may have conceded more points and made the final score look less convincing.

We all have our opinions and as people have said we all want the same thing but we all have different opinions and ways in which we communicate it. I don't agree with people trying to make people look/feel stupid or small on here and I ceretainly didn't appreciate being called a liar regarding how many years I've watched the team, Why would I - I've watched them for 30 years and am proud to have done so. Also just because I don't post on here regularly a moderator bags me and accuses me of coming out of the woodwork and because my opinion is different to his my posts are "rants". I'm sorry I didn't realise this forum was moderated by Stalin.

Anyway after this experience I think I'll just crawl back under my rock and resort back to reading only again as its clearly only for people who have an opinion similar to regular contributors/moderators.

For the record I love my team and have always done what I can for the good of it. We have good times, we have bad times collectively and I hurt when I don't see the same pride/effort being put in. I'm from Halifax and love my club, I wear my shirt with pride and will ALWAYS back my team win, lose or draw if I see the same in return. Hand on heart have you seen pride and 100% commitment in that Blue and White Shirt recently because I haven't. Its all I ask.

My first son is due to be born in 4 weeks and will I be buying him a shirt?? . . . . . . God damn right I will and he will wear it with the same pride his dad does.

You make some god points and summarise the games well. But dont you think your getting too worked up?

We lost games we shouldn't have and the players have not delivered as they should, IT HAPPENS.

We'll improve and you will soon forget this spell.

Hope to see you at Batley

Only reason I did the last post was to summarise why I have apparently "ranted" recently (into one big post)!! and the basis behind my disappointment. I was made to feel like I had to defend myself.

If this forum was a bar I'd have walked out a long time ago as it can give you the same feeling as those two poor sods who walked into the pub in American Werewolf in London!!

Totally agree on the bar thing, I was accused of being a rogue user when I first joined and abused by a fellow FAX fan!, still had no apology! (littlerich).

However on balance it's an excellent forum.

I know I joined it over 7 years ago and I chose to just read it mainly, I know why now and that will remain to be the case. I also know a few people who used to be regulars on here and they have chosen to not post for similar reasons.

Pretty much agree with you Smithy on most of your points, I also I'll add don't think Calland should be sacked, the big picture shows he has done/is doing a good job.

I think peoples frustrations are born from the fact this season we could have (I reckon) done a Hull KR when they went up and dominated the league. Theres no stand out club like before, it was there for the taking.

The cup semi at home was a bitter pill to swallow, then from that game what was to follow has upset and angered people as they think oh heck here we go again, close but no cigar.

Fans are upset as we are throwing away a fantastic chance to do something special this season, it was there for the taking, ours to lose and we seem to be intent on throwing it away.

Fact is despite the lack of maybe some forward firepower, a centre and a stand off we have the players to do a job (they did it for first half of the season) we have the players and their is only one thing more frustrating then losing and thats losing when your team is not playing to its potential and thats where we are now.

In the past the fans can handle losing as to be fair the team didnt carry the weight of expectation as the present one does. Losing when you know your team is so much better or can do so much more is the big gripe.

Sharky my old fruit always nice to hear the voice of reason and I agree with you pretty much. Doubts have crept in regarding Calland but I just think he could do with an old head to help out right now. Its not done Barrow any harm.

All I've ever wanted is effort and recently I believe its been missing.

Chris, you and i know its pointless saying we should be SL or are the best team in the league, we need to prove it and its hard work, dedication. passion, discipline 80 mins of effort. You speak your mind fella, nowt wrong with it.

Weve been in play off eliminators, been top, finished in the top 3, we haven't gone that extra step, and until we do, or until we show pride and stop letting in big scores then the team and club aren't helping themselves, we need to make finals if were going to progress, Matt and Martin have been with us in various capacities for a few years, we want to see us keeping pushing on to the next level, SL or Grand finals are a long long way off right now, we need to focus on one game at a time and start winning ugly, its something we haven't mastered yet.

I fully agree with chris and his posts . I've watched fax for around 28 years now though the good times and the bad times and I'm getting fed up with the pc fans on here saying u can't boo the team , stop slagging off player and the coach because your up setting them . What a load of balls

if fax play well then I will clap them off the pitch , but on the other hand if they play like a set of w****rs . Then I will call them all the names under the sun and make my feeling known to them . This could / should be the best season we have had for a long time and at the mo the team seem to want to it away .hopefully the team / coach will read the message board and have a long hard look at themsevles . I can't remember who said about we will be left with hard core fans but will we . If people like chris (30years) my bro (18years) me (28years) my mum (35years) and my dad (50years) are getting fed up u can bet there will be a lot more hard fans in the same mind set

Cheers mate for the support!! - Like I've said previously, people on here (and I include some of the moderators) seem hell bent on shouting down non regular contributors all too quickly if an opinion is different to theirs. I'm still fuming at being accused of lying over how many years I've watched Fax for, which at the time was totally uncalled for and out of context of the conversation. I can't help maybe looking younger than I am when "others" have obviously had a hard paper round.

I've had to miss loads of games this last couple of seasons, but I do know that every game I have been to, Chris has been there, and for 5 years or so that I was supporting prior to this last couple of seasons.

Weren't you also one of the founders of the Supporters Trust Chris?

Hey Up Ian - Good to see you kicking about!! - Yes I was a one of the few responsible for starting the Supporters Trust up and even though time in the day job dictates I can no longer have any involvement I do feel quite proud of what it has gone on to achieve.

I was apparently even at the Cawoods game but don't remember as I was only about 3 and took along by my dad who ran the supporters club shop at the time (which was where the Taverners used to be before being moved to under the Main Stand), So I could say I've gone for 32 years!!!