I'm in total agreement with Robin and Huddshay here.Inadvertently FFIA nails a point here,do we want players coming in with little care ? lets take 3 examplea from last year.Evalds,a Halifax lad too,did nothing for us on D/R went back to Salford and scored tries for fun,obviously told if he didnt perform he's be back at Fax.Bibby,couldnt catch a cold here but got regular gametime at Salfordsubsequantly.Wilkinson,loving his time at Fax and looking forward to helping them to top 4-his words-signed for fecking Oldham a week later !

Fed up with your current secular role?

Thinking of a change in profession?

I was in that position until just the other day when I came across.

"From health care to spin doctor, it changed my life" by Robin Evans.

It's true, it really is.

DR is still ruining the game. second teams should be compulsory for all SL teams and whoever else wants to run them.

always been a bit of a political animal me.... and my views on dual reg... like hudds-shay, remain unshaken really


The scariest aspect of all this is I actually find myself agreeing with poskitt on this one....

It’s been done to death and in simple terms comes down to.

All those who think DR should be scrapped and in favour of not using DR regardless.

All those who think DR should be scrapped but in favour of using it when your main rivals are.

All those who aren’t bothered either way.

Now ask the same questions where the decisions of the responsible person of a business who are in a competion where results will decide the future progress or even existence of the club as a whole, including coaching staff, playing staff and supporters.

As with everything in life rarely do you find the perfect scenario and you just have to play your best game with the cards given from the dealer.

I agree entirely.
If one uses it ... all will.
It really is owt or nowt

We tried to sign him but Oldham offered him more money!!

Yep, another example of the state of the game.

You are more or less forced to go along with something that at best is disliked, at worse hated or it's turkeys voting for Christmas.

Just to repeat what ive always said about DR.
Back in 2009 when leigh used it,we used young player who were the cream from warrington& st helens & castleford.imo it worked really well for everyone back then.

Then they changed the rules and champ clubs had to use players from only one sl club.complete madness and doomed to failure from day one bit it suited the sl clubs needs

Rotherham Fev Fan.
I have not changed my opinion on d/r. Ido not agree with it and still think all clubs should be made to have a reseve side, but if that is what it takes to be successful and progress then why not co op with the best you can.
You have the Rhinos, would you swap for Catalan or Warrington for example ( no disrepect meant to those two teams) ?

I doubt anybody 'really' likes it but it is a necessary evil brought about by SL clubs picking up the cream of the young players and not being able to give them game time because they can't be @rsed to run a reserves team. RFL should make it a pre-requisite of being in SL that you must have a reserve team, it might be tough for Catalans but they would have to run their team in the French league if necessary.

This

I'd go one step further an insist that all championship sides have to run a reserves team also. This could be U23, U21, U19 whatever but a structure to bring new talent into the professional game.

Absolutely Dave, but when you think about it, we would only be going back to what was the norm 20 odd years ago.

Sportsman shudds. First Chop Hop 4.1% Mmm!

That would be 24 teams needing at least 17 players per team, even accounting for the clubs that have reserve sides where are all the other hundreds of players going to come from.
You then have to have extra coaching staff.
Extra officials and medical staff etc etc.
Some Championship clubs are barely getting by running a first team so how can they be forced to run a reserves?
SL clubs yes but it would have to be their own decisions, the RFL don’t have the will or the power to force anything onto SL clubs that they don’t want.
No easy answer and as stated before it’s the state of the game in 2017 and moving on.
What happened in the past is in the past, sadly things have changed and it’s not for the good if your outside SL.

Ypu're right - but as we used to do all this - plus run 20odd Academy sides as well, you simply show how far backwards the game has gone in the last 20 years.

Yep and reverse engineer it, how far we need to go before the game will get rid of DR and all the players running out each week are actually signed to the clubs whose shirts they are wearing.
How some of the lads involved can remain focussed and committed to the game baffles me some tiimes.
Apart from DR there is the loan arrangement with some lads being shipped out to 2,3,4,5 etc different clubs for 2,3,4,5 etc amount of games. Arrrrg.

Ah well, we've had the loan system for a lot of years. The difference is that they have to be there at least 28 days. Given that, I'd be surprised if a player got as far as five different clubs on loan. And it's not possible to go for two games. It has to be a period of time, not a number of games.

Yes I know but in that period of time they aren’t guaranteed to be picked for every game so of course it can be for 2 games that they play in.

So as not to hi jack the Woodburn-Hall thread with another DR theme I though I would post a part quote here.

Ref new signings is there much point if you have dual reg and reserves.....all you would be doing is paying contracts to people that might not get a game.'"

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Absolutely.

It looks like Hull have dumped their reserve team which will be a big blow to us. The sport is very quickly turning in to a joke.

Oh well, that's good news.

I thought it already was a joke.

Be worth asking Hull if we could have Rawsthorne back on a season long loan if he isn't to feature in their 1st team?

Good shout. Sportsman shudds. NRB Tiramisu Porter 4.5% Mmm!

No harm in asking Doncaster have got 4 Players on a season loan from them