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| No sympathy. Pay your taxes like the next business or person on the street why should they get away with it. Hope HMRC reject their proposal and demand the full amount they owe. If they can't pay then liquated and get rid.
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| The bit that suprises me is that people are shocked. Has the situation that Bradford are now in ever been any different in the 100 or so years for any club at one time or another? has it balls! The truth is sport mirrors the economy on many fronts but the biggest being Boom and Bust. We can blame who we want and Hurt when it happens. But life goes on and so will Bradford Bulls/Northern whatever they will be called. Next Year it will be someone else. In sport not many will make millions, but millions will experience the rollercoaster of success and failure. should it stop you watching it? NO. Will it stop some? YES.
They will be back though and so will Bradford!
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| It's not just the HMRC that will be out of pocket, what about those innocent suppliers who may be brought down as well.
RFL has to safeguard against this, oh, they already do it's called a Franshise!
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| Did anyone listen to BBC Leeds yesterday? Some Bradford fans do my head in. One guy said that dropping down to the Northern Ford was be a disaster! Oh course it would - Northern Ford doesn't bloody exist!
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| [i Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"What a Joke! What is the point of a points reduction? What is that for a punishment?.'" [/i
Absolutely. It might keep them out of the playoffs and the income that comes along with it at best but it's not a big enough penalty.
[i Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"Whilst I dont want Bradford to disappear I hope that they end up in the Championship 1 and rebuild......No club is too big not to be in SL IMHO'" [/i
In fact they'd make a good addition to our league with some good banter but with the lower leagues being restructured it's just not going to happen. I pees me off when I hear "SL is where we rightfully belong" coming from any club. No club has a right, it has to be earnt (more off the field than on these days).
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| Quote ="The Dors"
Absolutely. It might keep them out of the playoffs and the income that comes along with it at best but it's not a big enough penalty.
In fact they'd make a good addition to our league with some good banter but with the lower leagues being restructured it's just not going to happen. I pees me off when I hear "SL is where we rightfully belong" coming from any club. No club has a right, it has to be earnt (more off the field than on these days).'"
True that about no club has a right to be in SL, look at football even the mighty Glasgow Rangers are at the mercy of their peers and it is not certain that when they all vote they will put Rangers back in the SPL, same goes for football clubs like Darlington who have been demoted down the leagues and even our very own FC Halifax Town who had to drop down 3 leagues to start again.
If Bradford have to start as a NewCo as they call it they SHOULD be put in our league at best but technically in Championship 1 but I think that would be too low down due to the size of their support.
On support it will be interseting to see what their crodws will be once they startg again and charge a proper entrance fee to stop them losing money? Its okay saying we get 11K every week but when they pay about half the going rate its technically only as good as 5500 full paying speccies.
Thing is Bradford have done this before back in 1964 yet WE have existed for 139 years and been on the verge but never gone completely bust and been liquidated have we?
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| Quote ="Marshy1"Think if you read my post correctly, I am aware they are in administration. Now that it a tad different from going bust.Perhaps you need to look this up Pal.!!'"
Liquidation, administration, gone bust, whatever .....
How are any of them "feathering their nest" ?
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| Quote ="Bubba"I may be wrong but arent most SL clubs owned by rich supporters?'"
I have insufficient information but I'll assume that's true.
But that doesn't mean they have assets. Huddersfield have a deficit running into millions. They are substantially owned by one of Ken Davy's companies.
[iJust picked that out as an example.[/i
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| Thats the point I am making though. The majority of owners are involved with their clubs because they support them. Should no wealthy Bradford supporter come forward, then there is little hope because there are no assets for any potential investor.
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| I wonder what our old friend Hobson's Knees would have to say about all this??!
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| Quote ="triran"Did anyone listen to BBC Leeds yesterday? Some Bradford fans do my head in. One guy said that dropping down to the Northern Ford was be a disaster! Oh course it would - Northern Ford doesn't bloody exist!'"
Yes I picked up on that but as I mentioned earlier it was also said that 2 payments had been made.
1 of 1.2 Million and 1 of 1.3 million for the Harris poaching / compensation package.
Who recieved these payments?
Was it Leeds and if so allthough they must have won the case and be entitled to them it's not very good to take the cash and potentially send another club out of buisness, I mean afterall we are one Rugby League Family.
Or no that was in different era.
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| Quote ="Bubba"Thats the point I am making though. The majority of owners are involved with their clubs because they support them. Should no wealthy Bradford supporter come forward, then there is little hope because there are no assets for any potential investor.'"
Ah ... right ....
Well, in that case, how do Fax survive ? Or Sheffield ? Making a profit or summat ?
Jeez - if you have to have a rich supporter to survive the game needs to close down now.
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=#FF0000Well, in that case, how do Fax survive ? Or Sheffield ? =#FF0000Making a profit or summat ?
Jeez - if you have to have a rich supporter to survive the game needs to close down now.'"
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=#FF0000Well, in that case, how do Fax survive ? Or Sheffield ? =#FF0000Making a profit or summat ?
Jeez - if you have to have a rich supporter to survive the game needs to close down now.'"
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| Just sacked their coaching staff including Potter!
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| looks like they have gone now - I feel very sorry for the people who are losing their jobs
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| Don't worry. They'll just start up again.
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Strange, just looked at the Bulls Forum, thought there might be an insight into what's going on.
All there is, is, "who hates Leeds more"
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| Quote ="griff1998"Don't worry. They'll just start up again.'"
Hopefully but Big Nige and his friends want it to be in SL! The whole thing from the way Bradford have managed things to how the RFL gave the Bulls a SL licence with a grade B should be investigated.
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| I feel Voldemort Caisley's presence. The man who started the Bulls demise will be back to pick up a cheap deal. His associate was stood next to Guilfoyle at yesterday's meeting.
It's going to happen and he'll hail himself as a saviour and the RFL will lap it up and rubber stamp the new license. As you were by the end of August everyone . . . .
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| Quote ="littlerich"I feel Voldemort Caisley's presence. The man who started the Bulls demise will be back to pick up a cheap deal. His associate was stood next to Guilfoyle at yesterday's meeting.
It's going to happen and he'll hail himself as a saviour and the RFL will lap it up and rubber stamp the new license. As you were by the end of August everyone . . . .'"
Can he be a director or owner of a club if he is still a players agent??
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| Quote ="littlerich"I feel=#FF0000 Voldemort Caisley's presence. The man who started the Bulls demise will be back to pick up a cheap deal. His associate was stood next to Guilfoyle at yesterday's meeting.
It's going to happen and he'll hail himself as a saviour and the RFL will lap it up and rubber stamp the new license. As you were by the end of August everyone . . . .'"
So once they got rid of ' Potter ' it was easy for them
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| So now the RFL have offered the bulls 200k to pay wages. Just gets better and better.
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| If this is true and I were running any of the other Super League clubs I would be knocking on Red Hall demanding my £200k wage bill subsidy. Can of worms?
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"So now the RFL have offered the bulls 200k to pay wages. Just gets better and better.'"
As far as I understand it, the RFL pay each Super League club a monthly amount of the SKY money (I think) and that the administrator has asked for this up front.
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