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| Quote ="Halifax RLFC 4eva"Its funny that because we managed complete our stadium in these tough econmical times.'"
Well, the Council did.
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| Quote ="MalcolmAgarsTieUps"Well, the Council did.'"
correct, and do you think that the club did nothing to persuade the council?!
we got the job done. simples.
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| Quote ="MalcolmAgarsTieUps"Well, the Council did.'"
Which is a damn site more than Cas and wakey have done, As for the Cas fan, if you dont like what you read do one onto your own forum. Can you not see we are seething from a corrupt RFL which has made me give up on it, stuck with it for the last 3 years but no more i'm affraid. If The club tried to take action then great, i will stay a fax faithfull and shell out my money, if we lye down and take it then i aint parting with Hard earned money.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"Which is a damn site more than Cas and wakey have done, As for the Cas fan, if you dont like what you read do one onto your own forum. Can you not see we are seething from a corrupt RFL which has made me give up on it, stuck with it for the last 3 years but no more i'm affraid. If The club tried to take action then great, i will stay a fax faithfull and shell out my money, if we lye down and take it then i aint parting with Hard earned money.'"
too true, the only way that i believe that the club can now stop fans slowly drifting away from the shay is by the club standing up for themselves.
at the minute......in the heat of the moment i feel angry and sick at this decision!
and am considering walking away from RL full stop.
iv bought tickets for the CC final, SL GF and 4 nations final! how big of a mug do i feel!!!
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| As per usual the RFL move in a murky world of clandestine meetings to make decisions without having to provide any justification for them. All the time with the threat hanging in the air that it is their competition and they can do what they want (even throwing out members that don't tow the party line.)
Steele will be asked to attend a meeting to discuss this and may also be able to point out several Nigel Wood sized wholes in the RFL's argument but at the end of the day Lewis and Wood will not change their mind and Steele will be sworn to some daft confidentiality agreement at the risk of punishment for his club.
Resign Lewis and Wood and let's have men with integrity take their place... Proper RL people who understand the fans of this sport and will act with in the best interest of the sport rather than their own ego's.
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| I can only repeat what I said in another posting that Michael prior to that meeting needs to check whether legal grounds exist for an appeal. Because it is such a bizarre decision you would accept a challenge could be made. It just depends whether the club has the stomach for a serious fight...........
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| I have said all along if we do not get in then we should challenge - The BOD are not idiots and have good heads for business so I am sure if they had the stomach they would - I know there are plenty of supporters would lend a hand in whatever way they could.
The RFL make a decision and just expect all the clubs to go along with it - remember its not just a sport its a business and no club/business should be held back when there as been a clear injustice.
I would compare it to the Bosman ruling in football - one guy had a vision to change the whole ruling with regards to contracts and its transformed the transfer market in football - if Halifax RLFC challenge this decision I am sure the decision with regards to future licences would be clearer for everyone to follow.
I guess in short waht I am in saying is - Lets have a clear system and a level playing field.
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| Quote ="Faxfan321"I have said all along if we do not get in then we should challenge - The BOD are not idiots and have good heads for business so I am sure if they had the stomach they would - I know there are plenty of supporters would lend a hand in whatever way they could.
The RFL make a decision and just expect all the clubs to go along with it - remember its not just a sport its a business and no club/business should be held back when there as been a clear injustice.
I would compare it to the Bosman ruling in football - one guy had a vision to change the whole ruling with regards to contracts and its transformed the transfer market in football - if Halifax RLFC challenge this decision I am sure the decision with regards to future licences would be clearer for everyone to follow.
I guess in short waht I am in saying is - =#FF0000Lets have a clear system and a level playing field.'"
Its called promotion and relegation
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| Quote ="Starbug"Its called promotion and relegation'"
We're not allowed that, teams go bust because of it. Oh wait doesn't that happen in franchising too?
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| Just watched Michael Steele having to fend off some pretty unfair and leading questions from Rob Wootton on Sky Sports News. Just to repeat the original post - Michael Steele... What A Legend.
Halifax have not even had the grace of a phone call from the RFL nearly 3 hours later ..... disgraceful.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Its called promotion and relegation'"
How does a team with a squad value of £300k build a new squad for SL in just four months to be able to avoid relegation without gambling massively against their future?
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| Quote ="Chris B"How does a team with a squad value of £300k build a new squad for SL in just four months to be able to avoid relegation without gambling massively against their future?'"
That's the exact scenario in other sports, and yet sometimes the club coming up does survive.
It is better to have tried and failed then never to be allowed to try.
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| Quote ="Chris B"How does a team with a squad value of £300k build a new squad for SL in just four months to be able to avoid relegation without gambling massively against their future?'"
So why were Fax in the mix today ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"So why were Fax in the mix today ?'"
That was just to make the RFL feel good about themselves.
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| Quote ="Chris B"without gambling massively against their future?'"
With thd RFL giving Wakefield a licence, it would appear that they would now likely encourage this behaviour and give it a few marks towards a licence if you go into admin
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| Quote ="billyfax"That's the exact scenario in other sports, and yet sometimes the club coming up does survive.
It is better to have tried and failed then never to be allowed to try.'"
I would say that the gulf between the divisions in this sport is considerable compared to the Championship and the Premiership for example. Also in some other sports they have parachute payments to protect the dropping club.
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| Quote ="Chris B"I would say that the gulf between the divisions in this sport is considerable compared to the Championship and the Premiership for example. Also in some other sports they have parachute payments to protect the dropping club.'"
So why were Fax in the mix today ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"So why were Fax in the mix today ?'"
What does that even mean?
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| If it is all about money, presumably it is cheaper for the RFL not to promote Fax than relegate Wakefield with a 6 figure parachute payment -
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| Well said Michael. One wonders how much the Clowns at Red Hall have promised Crusaders to get them out of the mire so they can re-apply next time. To allow Wakefield to stay in with their dump of a ground and going into administration just shows how far the Clowns will go to keep Fax out of SL. Re parachute payment how much are they going to give to Crusaders, they are allegedly 700K in the red?
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| Quote ="Chris B"What does that even mean?'"
You asked this question
Quote How does a team with a squad value of £300k build a new squad for SL in just four months to be able to avoid relegation without gambling massively against their future? '"
Well the RFL were happy for Fax to be in the mix today , and it is quite concievable that they could have got a SL place for next season , only giving them a short amount of time to prepare , if that amount of time is enough , why did they give Widnes more time ?
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| Quote ="burybabe"Well said Michael. One wonders how much the Clowns at Red Hall have promised Crusaders to get them out of the mire so they can re-apply next time. To allow Wakefield to stay in with their dump of a ground and going into administration just shows how far the Clowns will go to keep Fax out of SL. Re parachute payment how much are they going to give to Crusaders, they are allegedly 700K in the red?'"
i would imagine it will be about £700k - don't you?
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| Quote ="Starbug"You asked this question
Well the RFL were happy for Fax to be in the mix today , and it is quite concievable that they could have got a SL place for next season , only giving them a short amount of time to prepare , if that amount of time is enough , why did they give Widnes more time ?'"
Because Fax would not be under pressure to be competitive in year one, they would potentially have 2 - 3 years with the benefit of receiving SKY money over this period and increased sponsorship. It's not an all or nothing next year scenario.
Fax still would have found out before the deadline of being able to approach OOC 2012 players at the beginning of September and a good 3 months before they would if it had been left to winning the GF.
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| "What we will do is we'll sit down with Halifax and we'll explain what the weaknesses were in their application and what was found wanting and where other clubs put in a stronger case."
love off you pillock don't even bother coming and sitting down your not welcome!! this is a load of political bolox. Wakefield don't have a stronger bid and you all know it
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| Quote ="ste_ody"it's not just Halifax who need to stand up to the RFL, every single championship side should stand together'"
Agreed and all RL supporters - or at least those who care.
None of the clubs have anything to lose anymore.
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