Probably a small deal but without them we'd be beggared!

Completely agree and to them it is probably not a small deal. Small businesses don't have great amounts of cash to throw around. We should be thankful for all our sponsors.

According to the records at Companies House Reactiv Media own the shares.

But this is at 29.3.16, from the Annual Return.

So it is possible that the shares could have still been "in" Reactiv and form part of the liquidation (they would have no value so see no reason why the liquidator would be bothered with them and so they would not be listed as an asset) or they could have been sold/transfered to someone after 29.3.16 and before Reactiv went in to liquidation on 24.4.16.

I asked a member of the Board this question and was told that they were transfered in to Mr Abbots name between these dates. Clearly he may still own then or have sold/transfered them subsequently.

The game and even the clubs of SL struggle to find anything other than Small town sponsors. Rugby League is not really a market big companies want. Halifax are never on TV and play in front of mainly 1500 fans-how you going to get a big sponsor to splash out money when they are not going to get much back. Some people really need to wake up and live in the real world. The game and most clubs are just about hanging on in there. Unless a club manages to get a millionaire backer willing to throw money around then it will struggle. Thats where we are. A small club struggling just like much of the rest of the game including SL.

Have we made mistakes? Yes but realistically we cant afford to be a proper FT team that can get top players. We would be going after the same SL dregs as Bradford, Sheffield and Leigh. Where has that got them? The quality within the game is for me at an all time low- look at the state of most games in SL! Tell me who the club should bring in who would be a top signing in your eyes? The club has tried DR- not really worked. Its tried Loan players who are hit and miss (Sarsfield). It has brought in 3 overseas players with varying degrees of success. The Club has looked to get some decent youngsters in (Butler, Moore. Punchard etc) and run a reserve team. Sadly the game itself cant be bothered and we are left playing the same teams every other week! Batley and Fev have had good and some may so luck this year like we did last year. But for all that Fev, Batley, London and probably Leigh will still be in our League next year.

It seems we have to bitch and moan about everything. RM is not some messiah and he has never claimed to be. But the way the daggers are out for him is poor. The players and Coaching staff need motivating and comments that motivate not pull them down all the time. The 8s are a waste and we need one win to make the Semis in a pointless comp. Why not use the youngsters and see what they can do. Yes we could and should have played better. I dont think the negative comments are needed to say that to the Coaches and players-they know that themselves. We have lost our way a bit. Improvements need to be made for sure. Lessons have been learnt. But there is no need to act like rats and jump for no real reason. Being a fan means we go through good and mainly bad- thats just the way it is. If you want to just want the good times go elsewhere.

The board are doing a good job. No doubt they could do better but we could be in a far worse situation. People forget the stuff the board members do behind the scenes that go unnoticed. Its not just putting money in but time and effort as well. If somebody thinks they can do better then step forward put your Cash, time and energy in-sure none of the current board will not be grateful. Easy to criticize others but what do you do for the club?

Well said, but remember that it's those 1500 or so that provide a decent slug of funding for the club each year, many of whom have done so for many years.

We obviously can't survive without the generosity of the BoD and local sponsorship, but I sense that the biggest frustration on here is that we want a little more transparency from the board, and indeed probably RM, over what our strategy is, what our (true) goals are, and what the journey to get there might look like. Clearly we can't be so transparent that we start showing our hand too much to our rivals, but as they say, the silence is deafening. The "open evenings" have been good, and the interviews on Fax TV Ok (albeit a closed shop now without paying), but the comms needs to be more regular and consistent.

It's been said elsewhere that England have been building a team since 1966. Fax have only been doing that for the last 13 years...

What do you do for the club?i pay 20 quid to watch a part time team.we have no better record than when we had Harrison.by the way this a fans forum and we are allowed to put are points across.

Instead of moaning on a stupid message board maybe go to one of the Fan Forums and put your point across in a constructive manner there. This is a message board that is used by very few fans who hide behind a name. Put your point across here if you want but realistically few people will read it.

It's "only" a forum, and I'm probably being a troglodyte, but it does jar my senses when folk can't write. "we are allowed to put are points across" ... "our points", please... etc.

Time for me to get

down...

There has to be an element of realism as to where we are at as a club and also the game as a whole.
The Fax Board have gone down the right road in my eyes by not going for boom or bust as we simply haven't got the finacial clout.
With limited revenue stream at the home games in gate money and East stand corporate it's tough to see how we can compete with the big boys.
We all want to see us top of the league and pushing for SL but that's easier said than done with our current fan base and lack of a major sponsor.
It's easy to criticise but we need to look at the bigger picture and be grateful for the BOD's support both financially and otherwise plus the financial support from any of the players or club sponsors. Without them we could be talking on the Championship 1 forum debating how we stood in a 200 large crowd away at Gloucestershire!!!!!(no offence to them)
We are not far off and with 3-4 quality players added next season we will be up there again.

Well said Dave







.

any sponsor is a good sponsor for the club.
having to play these games until the end of the season is not the clubs fault. the RFL thought up crackpot idea. promotion needs to be brought back for the good of the game.

Don't think anybody thought it a crackpot idea last season, but I do agree that there is very little to play for in the doldrums 8's.

plenty thought it was a bad idea but were just happy fax qualified to take on SL teams. nobody in right mind thought anyone would actually get into SL .

Please correct me if I am wrong ( I probably will be ) !
Remembering the mid nineties and our re emergence as a force in S L, we had crowds of 4/5000 regularly and some 'big name'sponsors, then a bloke from Fax went to Red Hall, and ever since we have been on a downward spiral with the exception of a few blips. We should have been given a place back in S L as we had better facilities and structure than several clubs at that time who kept their licence.
What or how did we upset this man ( some call him the fat controller) as it seems he has kept us out of the top tier of R L, which in turn has seen us with ( no disrespect intended) average players and lesser sponsors than we might have had given the exposure SL enjoys.
Let's face it our face does not and has not fit at Red Hall for a long time and it seems that in certain quarters we are an embarrassment
On a final point I am sure the players do not get up Sunday morning and say to themselves " I will settle for losing pay today" ? Although they have to take the brunt of the blame as they are unpredictable, it can tbeR M 'sfault all the time as I am sure he does not change basic tactics or game plans weekly, although he does need to settle on his best 17 and not sentiment for all games, it seems more knowledgable people than me say we have let players leave that should have been wearing the shirt more regularly and if that happened they may have stayed at Fax. Living away from home I can only read and assimilate what is written on the various platforms and make my judgement from that. (my last live game was against widnes last year in the 8's, so I have seen in the flesh quite recently).
Thank you for reading my comments and welcome constructive replies. Real name can be found if you search my profile!!!

I did.

I would like to see the backs strengthened next season.are centres seem very limited.which shows by the lack of tries are wingers score.where would you strengthen?

Definately need a new first choice centre,Heaton squad player at best.

In a nutshell. Average attendance 8000 in 1992.
Been a downward spiral since.

Reasons in no particular order.
Fan base not being replaced sufficiently. SKY TV.
Bradford Bulls concept. Relocation to the Shay. Ken Davy propping up Huddersfield. Leeds domination of the sport. The working class priced out of games. These Haligonians preferring to "follow" a favourite team/EPL team on Sky at home or in the pub.
A shrinking local player base. We had the Workshops competition. The team was talked about in every pub after Wembley. Every pub arranged trips.
Lower quality rugby across the board. SL included.
Silly Health and safety rules and regulations.
Newspaper website not good enough. Check Bradfords T&A and you'll see the difference.
No chance of promotion. No big money backer.
Not owning the ground/therefore limited matchplay revenue streams.

In all honesty, the marketing dept. have a job on their hand selling an inferior product to the unwashed at extortionate prices, and when they do have a chance to get new fans in to try out the product, the team usually always fail to deliver.

Excellent post.As an avid fan in 90s it was impossible to forsee 1200 gates at rugby at Shay.It's very close to being unfollowable anymore.

I don't think Tyrer has had the best of seasons. In all honesty, its his brilliant goalkicking that probably keeps him in the team.

So, yes, we at least need competition for places. Smeaton wasn't up for it for whatever reason.

Saltonstall and Sharp need better service. Think these two have scored more tries from crossfield kicks than good centre play.

But year on year, the talent pool available just diminishes

Jesus. Reading this I don't know if I can be d to a Fax fan!

Seriously, there are probably 5 or 6 clubs would love to be in our position, including some in the middle 8s. We have made some strong signings for next season and Richard Marshall hasn't become a bad coach over night. One thing that is for certain about RM is he learns from his mistakes and he has contacts.

We didn't make the middle 8s but we don't have winding up orders, have some good young players at the club that want to be here and some of the best part time players in the league. We've just had a poor year - it happens. We'll bounce back next year. We have to make the most of what we have and be positive cos there isn't a Beaumount type character on the horizon

Hope you're right.Who are the strong signings ? and they're maybe a Beaumont type around one day

absolutely spot on about tyrer,he wouldn't get a game if he wasn't atop goalkicker .now he has got a new contract.

Mr Hall, indeed Fax have made 2 decent signings as I know off,of course they can't be announced till the season is over,I know when the time is right RM will inform all Fax fans ,a lot of the posts on this thread are a bit disheartening to read, my message is have faith,you just need to back your Coach and Board by more coming through the gates,I think 3 or 4 decent signings will transform your team to challenge the Top 4 next year.Charlie knows.