Why what else is going on? Why don't you post it and get it off your chest and we can have another 10-11 pages of rumours/bullsh@t and nonsense..

It shouldn't be a case of letting us in. The team winning the Championship should be allowed up as is the case with any other 'real' sport. Franchise my A R S E.

Post what? We have had some response and reason over Clay's departure but absolute zip over Posner's. Am I being wrong to question this? Just because you think you're right to presume nothing else is happening doesn't necessarily mean that I'm wrong to think there is.

I also don't think Mr Halifax (HP) would resign over 'rumour, bs and nonsense' as you put it, do you? The CC affair seems like an oversight, which while embarrassing is not the end of the world. Has HP said anything about his reasons for resigning yet... I haven't seen anything.

The big concern I would have is not the fact and it is fact Ostick was not eligible to play but the fine of £100k should worry you more than being icked out of the cup.

Clearly someone and I think more than 1 person is at fault here for not figuring his eligibility.

Another thing although this does not suprise me is the ineptitude of the rfl, how long since this became knowledge of they taken to look at it, clearly caught with trousers down again.

As with most cock ups at clubs fans are the ones who suffer, just a a side issue when heard 2 directors left it seemed odd and this was before I heard about the current fiasco.

Good luck to the fax fans but I fear you will get screwed for this mess and the fine if the rfl stick by the rules in place will be £100k.

Based on reading snippets posted about rfl rules your best hope is that those involved say they knew nothing because if folk blame each other its squaky bum time.

The £100k fine of which £40k was suspended was because Hull could not be kicked out of the competition. So I believe the fine was this high due to the RFL not wishing Hull to profit from the fact that they remained in the tournament.

Halifax will not profit from a run in the challenge cup as they were away in the last round and gained no money from this round due to the game being cancelled. I would expect us to be fined no more than £5k at most or expect expulsion and forfeit of prize money from last round to be sufficient.

One must assume that the RFL will now backflush all teamsheets for all games played by ALL teams in the CC. I suspect we are not an isolated case!

I would expect that clubs are currently doing that themselves.

Put it this way, I'd rather be in your situation than my team's.

We're skint, have low attendences, have had 60 put past us 3 times this season, and only 1 point to show for the first half of the season.

You'll come back a better club for going through this.

See you in a fortnight.

Keep the faith.

Why would you hope for another club to be in the same ridiculous situation as yours. Do you not think its embarrassing enough for the sport that Halifax and the RFL have created such a amatuerish c*ck up of things as it is.

And I would be astonished if there were others making the same mistake. After all how many incidents of this have we seen in recent history? Without looking it up I can only think of Hull and yourselves it would appear.

They are the only incidents which have been noticed but, as the RFL have shown that they don't monitor the teams and have to be told of any infringements by the fans, whose to say how many others have slipped through the net?

My point entirely. This is not cut n dried imo.

Well this one certainly didn't slip through the net, the fact that it took 3 weeks and was raised on this forum is not proof that it would not have been realised at a later date, with potentially more significant and embarrassing consequences for the club and sport.

And I would say it is "cut and dried" as far as Fax are concerned as he played for Rochdale in the 3rd round and Halifax in the 4th round. No ambiguity there. I sincerely hope there are no more incidents at any other clubs and to be honest I don't expect any either, it isn't rocket science.

Just thought.... if the RFL couldnt even check a team sheet (yes I know it was Halifax's fault, but they still had 3 weeks to check into this!)... what confidence is their now in the RFL's "live" salary cap checks....

I don't expect there would be many instances at all. In-season transfers aren't all that common these days.

Most of the movements seem to be "dual registered" players, by the way are dual registered players eligible to play for either team in any round?

No you can only play for one. Hence Alex Brown is now cup tied for Hudds as he played for Batley against Siddal. Kyle Wood and Josh Griffin were not allowed to play against Siddal incase of any injury issues with Hudds however, were allowed to play against Fax meaning they too would have been cup tied for Hudds. Not that Hudds need to worry about the cup anymore either.

But hull were fined for a different offense. They didnt register thackray on cup player register after his late move from leeds which was basically an administrative error which its quite feasible player knew nothing about. Also at the time there was no clear cut penalty specified in cup rules for this offense.

If allegations about Ostick are proved your case is different in 2 ways. Firstly Ostick must have been aware he was cup tied and should have made club aware plus the previous cup game he played in was just before you signed him so I'd imagine its quite likely that someone from fax was at game scouting him. secondly the rules are pretty specific as to punishment for fielding a player whose already turned out for another team in cup and leave RFL little room for wriggle room, so I doubt they can give you a fine.

Apparentley he's the one who emailed the RFL, he's been awfully quiet on here since this thing erupted

The RFL have handled this disgracefully and have raised the hopes of both Swinton and Batley when no comment should have been made further than 'this is being investigated'.

Common sense should prevail - the lad had virtually no impact on the Swinton game and I am certain that he was allowed to play in error thus giving no grounds for 'willfull or known negligence' on Fax's part.



Do the right thing RFL and do not hammer an uneccesary nail into the coffin of another heartland club who deserve a place in your mighty Super League.

deserve? Please explain how or why?

Well that isn't fair is it? Not least because it is not true.

Fax played an ineligible player. Would you have won at Swinton without him of course you would.

Have your club made a mistake ...you know they have. Could you win this competition ........... come on get real.

It is an embarrassing mistake move on.Concentrate on the Championship and support your club.

I once received correspondence from West Yorkshire Police, detailing their intent to prosecute me for breaching the 30 m.p.h. speed limit on a road in Dewsbury. I was slightly shocked, as I never even realised there was a speed camera in the location where I was caught.
Needless to say, despite my protestations of ignorance and stupidity, I was still punished with a £60 fine and a 3 point licence penalty.

And you know its not true because????

Please have a look at the Michael Ostick thread where this came to light, Vikingman clearly states that he's emailed the RFL. Even one of the fax players told my mate today that when the RFL contacted the club they told them that he was the one who allerted them to the problem.

At least I am not throwing in the towel just yet like everyone else.

A good solicitor could bring this round and I have every confidence in those remaining on our BOD to do so