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| Alex Simms fronting the show?!
He could barely read out the team sheet on the one occasion he did it at a home game.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"Sorry faxcar, other than putting in £100k or so nothing is better with TA at the helm. Crowds have gone down not up, the app is appalling, never up to date and amateur at best, rent problems as well. I don't think he has Halifax RL blood running through his veins and it shows, mike Riley runs around like a headless chicken on match days and personal I can tell it means the earth to him. Likewise Leigh directors, involved, passionate and innovative, it makes the difference to us fans IMO.im not going to start kissing ass just because he has put some money in, the same as I didn't when nano did the same'"
I agree 100%
I am not kissing the guy's either, he is a sponsor, no more no less. He is not Tony Gartland.
When was the last time he publicly said anything about Halifax RLFC.
One thing though, I would not have started this thread had I known that the brain dead s at FC Wendyball had so little in their lives that they would feel the need to pick up on it as well. I did hear that there was some crap tournament about to begin in South America somewhere. Why not concentrate on that?
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| Question. How come "ass" gets through but the British version becomes "booty"? We're not Septics, are we?
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| Quote ="Faxhali"Sorry faxcar, other than putting in £100k or so nothing is better with TA at the helm. Crowds have gone down not up, the app is appalling, never up to date and amateur at best, rent problems as well. I don't think he has Halifax RL blood running through his veins and it shows, mike Riley runs around like a headless chicken on match days and personal I can tell it means the earth to him. Likewise Leigh directors, involved, passionate and innovative, it makes the difference to us fans IMO.im not going to start kissing ass just because he has put some money in, the same as I didn't when nano did the same'"
On the other hand without his gift, (because he isn't going to get it back and neither did he expect to) we could easily have folded as it was given to help pay our way when we had the perfect storm of results when everything went wrong and since then who has been funding the signings of new players that is still on going but without the big statement.
Crowds have gone down for a number of reason none of which are directly linked to him nor is it just affecting Fax, in last weeks RL press there was a full page article asking where since the World Cup had all the crowds gone and no one knew the answer or how to fix it.
Locally it seems the Halifax public as elsewhere have other things to spend there time and money on.
As to having Fax blood running through his body, in a way he is a newby, not locally born and bred but it has to start at some point and not being from the north doesn't exclude someone getting the RL bug.
When someone watches a game not everyone takes to it but when they do it's in the blood alright and the first taste for him was Fax, that usually means it's first taste, first place, this is my club, in this case Fax or nothing.
As a newby who was invited to come to the club how should we treat such a person, what sort of message should be given and has been sent out to any other potential interested person?
TA not too long ago spoke plenty about his plans and invited everyone to come and look and listen, the response.
He was called a liar, he was called a parasite, he and his family were subjected to a number of things that were and still are a total disgrace to the Town of Halifax and you complain about an app.
Before TA is a Fax director he is a person and there is a big difference between kissing ass (which he has never asked people to do) and showing some respect to him as just a person.
With the above in mind hardly surprising he now says nothing and goes about his business in a different way but still gets slagged off.
Talk about blood running through his body, the mans getting his throat slit.
I know I may be offending some and that is not my intention but I say it has I see it and on here lately it's becoming more like a serial slag off forum with little support for Fax RL when they are up against it.
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul"Alex Simms fronting the show?!
He could barely read out the team sheet on the one occasion he did it at a home game.'"
Is he still bothered about fax btw?
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| Quote ="Dutchy the fax fan"Is he still bothered about fax btw?'"
He went ages ago. Just before he got to use all that he learnt on his trip to Sydney Roosters!
He's at the Bulls now - totally got Fax
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| Thanks you could tell that he wasn't going to be here long from the moment he joined us.
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| How this has turned into a 'slag off Tony Abbott thread' I do not know! Firstly I hope this show really takes off because its something that rugby league has needed for a while. Boots n all has been rubbish for years and in my opinion is just something people would watch for the highlights instead of the hosts insights. This may bring a fresh approach to helping promote rugby league, we'll have to wait and see.
As for Tony, I have spoke to him on a number of occasions about the club. Each time you could tell how passionate he was about making dramatic improvements at the club. We can't expect him to work miracles and he certainly isn't to blame for our recent downfall on the pitch and attendances dropping.
I think we should all get behind him as he has put a lot of work into our club and a lot of his well earned cash.
If people are concerned with the silence, email the club asking for a statement from either Tony or any of the clubs directors on his situation at the club.
If not, keep a lid on it and support everything he's doing/done for us because without him we would be struggling. What a real shame it would be if the fans drove away a director!!
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"I agree 100%
I am not kissing the guy's booty either, he is a sponsor, no more no less. He is not Tony Gartland.
When was the last time he publicly said anything about Halifax RLFC.
One thing though, I would not have started this thread had I known that the brain dead s at FC Wendyball had so little in their lives that they would feel the need to pick up on it as well. I did hear that there was some crap tournament about to begin in South America somewhere. Why not concentrate on that?'"
couple of points on this.TA doing rugby am was on shaymen.net long before it was mentioned on here.
the BDW at fcht as you call them should actually be congratulated.Their vigilence probably saved both clubs
from seeking a new home.
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| My comment was not aimed at all FCHT supporters, just the majority of those on Shaymen.net who continue to make nasty comments about Halifax RLFC on a regular basis.
When they were pushing for promotion they got messages of support from 99% of Fax fans and a good number went to the playoff games ( I admit that I was in the other 1% as I can never forgive the bile that has come from them, plus I can't stand football which bores me to death).
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| Just like to say that having listened to Tony Abbot he still sounds passionate about Fax and RL and spoke well about what is needed.
Hopefully we will hear more about Fax and what is happening shortly.
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| Yeah TA sounded still pretty enthusiastic about RL and FAX
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| TA was at Leigh game last night.
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| Haven't had time to watch it yet being at the game.
TA has been to the games recently I know I saw him at Rochdale a couple of weeks back.
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| Just watched the show and it's a very un-polished hour and a half.
Simmonds is obviously a radio man. He really needs to keep his hands still when talking.
JJB came across as quite a funny guy, however a couple of the VT pieces made the Sky tv presenters look good.
TA had a few comments about the RFL's lack of marketing..... Can we have some please.
He dud however seem that he is still in for the long haul (fingers crossed).
All in all , as a first attempt, not bad but I'm sure they'll review and amend before next month's.
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| I for one hope Tony is still interested at Fax and I'm sure he is.
Also Agree with the lack of marketing comment...can we have some?
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| Just watching Rugby AM, Tony talks a lot of sense and nice to see him wearing his Halifax tie. We're lucky to have a guy like this involvedin our club IMO. Loves the game and the club.
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| Having watched it TA looks to have put some thought into the way forward.
In what he says relevant to the Championship there is the hint of the possibility the more ambitious clubs could overspend which carries some risk.
In that context the Fax approach seems to be don't spend what you haven't got.
I've said it before it will be interesting to see how things pan out next season with the big spenders and the rest.
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| The real overspend issue is what will happen if teams breach the salary cap. Will the money they get for potentially finishing in the top 2 be taken away, will they be deducted points?
Who knows as the RFL won't know what rules they will be working with until they make them up.
As per Barra, guilty of loads but did we get anything from their breaches?
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"The real overspend issue is what will happen if teams breach the salary cap. Will the money they get for potentially finishing in the top 2 be taken away, will they be deducted points?
Who knows as the RFL won't know what rules they will be working with until they make them up.
As per Barra, guilty of loads but did we get anything from their breaches?'"
Yep could happen but there is the allowance to spend more within the cap if they have a certain turnover, is over 1 million?
The thought I got was that some clubs might be spending more than they actually had in the bank now to get the first and second place so even if they did get the extra cash some of it had already been spent, then what.
It's gambling on success, which demands more success etc etc.
Each next step on the progress ladder is even bigger and they would have to do it again but with more and more money involved each time and the first time it doesn't work out they could be in debt.
I just get the feeling Fax are staying within there current means trying to get the funding right and be competitive but taking stock, having a look at how things pan out but are not prepared to gamble.
It would seem as far as TA is concerned the commitment is still there there's still life in the Fax.
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| Whether his 5 minutes at fax was a success or a shambles, it's good to see Alex leading this show. It certainly wasn't polished, but there were good bits and it will get better. He his doing his best to promote Rugby League, and I would rather watch this unpolished amateur pilot than the tedious sanitised B&A.
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| Quote ="pinballwizzard"Whether his 5 minutes at fax was a success or a shambles, it's good to see Alex leading this show. It certainly wasn't polished, but there were good bits and it will get better. He his doing his best to promote Rugby League, and I would rather watch this unpolished amateur pilot than the tedious sanitised B&A.'"
Me too, it seemed just basic down to earth Rugby League chat and banter, even the suits didn't suite but they were having a good time doing it.
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| Contrasting view here . I thought the TA interview was quite interesting . Definitely not going too spend what we haven't got and some good views on marketing . I enjoyed former ref David Campbell's recollection about the regal trophy final and a good bobby goulding story but I thought the rest of the show was amateurish in the extreme and pretty poor .especially the quiz at the end of the show and the mickey taking of super league players was just not funny - perhaps we have different levels of humour but it was quite pathetic imo.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Yep could happen but there is the allowance to spend more within the cap if they have a certain turnover, is over 1 million?
The thought I got was that some clubs might be spending more than they actually had in the bank now to get the first and second place so even if they did get the extra cash some of it had already been spent, then what.
It's gambling on success, which demands more success etc etc.
Each next step on the progress ladder is even bigger and they would have to do it again but with more and more money involved each time and the first time it doesn't work out they could be in debt.
I just get the feeling Fax are staying within there current means trying to get the funding right and be competitive but taking stock, having a look at how things pan out but are not prepared to gamble.
It would seem as far as TA is concerned the commitment is still there there's still life in the Fax.'"
If TA is still with Fax for the long haul why doesn't he try telling the fans that? I keep hearing rumours that he is gone at the end of the season due to the threats he received from FCHT fans and his personal situation. These may well be just the usual rumours but the continuing silence from TA (and the rest of the BOD) just fuels the fire and is leading to more and more supporters jumping ship. TA is not usually one to shy away from the media and the fans and his enthusiasm from last season whether you were for or against him is sorely missed.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"If TA is still with Fax for the long haul why doesn't he try telling the fans that? I keep hearing rumours that he is gone at the end of the season due to the threats he received from FCHT fans and his personal situation. These may well be just the usual rumours but the continuing silence from TA (and the rest of the BOD) just fuels the fire and is leading to more and more supporters jumping ship. TA is not usually one to shy away from the media and the fans and his enthusiasm from last season whether you were for or against him is sorely missed.'"
It's a fair question and only TA and the BOD know the answer, as I have said before the last time he said anything significant it back fired so maybe he's keeping his plans a bit closer to home and rather than the big statement just quietly going about his business.
I am not convinced that's why fans are not coming, as stated in the RL press the question was asked "Where have all the fans gone following the good showing at he world cup".
Adam Pearson the Hull RLFC owner stated on Boots last week that as a club they had experienced a 10% year on year fall in attendances and this included the period leading up to and after their Wembley Challenge Cup Final appearance.
That doesn't help us of course and the problem is once fans do stop coming how do you get them back?
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