The ground is a dump, has been for as long as I can remember, lack of atmosphere, even with 10k in there, though that is rare these days.
Good luck to the Bulls but they need to drop this anchor from around their neck and move on.

Bully boxer. You may think it hurts but your club has been sucking life from the RFL for some time now, your club is no more iconic than some other clubs in the championship.

How shall I put this? Some bulls fans need to get a grip and finally look at real life. Your club, far from being iconic and a giant waiting their rightful passage back to SL, are an embarrassment to the game. Most clubs have had money troubles in their history but the bulls make a fine art of it. Constantly going bust, arrogant fans, handouts from the RFL, a ground that literally stinks, going into neighbouring towns throwing free season tickets into their junior clubs, screwing away fans to fund your full time team, screwing your own fans by not honouring bonds, thinking everyone owes you when it's the other way round, need I carry on? Enjoy Dewsbury if you ever get there! Lol!

But this is all about the Bradford club, whether in their current form or their predecessors, not their fans (of which many stumped up a fair amount of ££ to try and keep their club alive). Let's not have a go at the Bradford fans, particularly those that frequent rlfans, most of whom are genuine supporters of their team and the game as a whole.

No, I was responding to a bulls fan having a go at Fax fans.

I wasn’t having ‘a go at Fax fans’. I have no issue with ‘Fax fans’ in fact I have many friends who follow Halifax. I just found some of the comments here and on social media from a small minority pretty sad. But I appreciate that isn’t representative of the entire fan base, in the same way that not all Bulls fan believe we ‘belong in SL’ etc.

They don't help themselves at times. Bulls 20/20 Vision - Destination Super League.

BB I accept that and I do feel for the proper Northern/bulls fans. It's just the constant arrogance and everyone against us attitude that wears a bit thin after a while. Up The Fax!

And how should me market it GFB? When the seasons finished we'll prob end up 6th, and probably a couple wins off second in our first season back with a young squad. Toronto will most likely go up making it a very exciting season next year as its very close from 2nd-7th. We're not far off being serious promotion contenders with a couple good additions plus our younger players will be more battle hardened.

I'd be disappointed if weren't going for promotion considering we need to find a few wins to be up near the top. It's just marketing.

He's got you there, Greg. It should be every club's ambition to get to Super League, otherwise what's the point?

I think you are a LONG way off even considering promotion to Super League.

The championship is a fantastic competition with some very well seasoned teams in the league, just in the English teams (Leigh, Fax, Fev) then there's Sheffield, York. Without even putting into the mix Toulouse, Toronto.

Yes aim for Super League - but don't let it kill your club off (again) in trying to reach it.

As for Destination Super League - jesus. Nothing short of embarrassing and that is from a team who did it years ago.

Get into the real world, smell the coffee and embrace the championship.

Leigh couldnt raise a team towards the end of last year and along with Fev, had to get special exemption from the RFL to complete a game. 12 months on (with quite a bit of help from D/R) they're both in the play-offs and I'd say Leigh are second favourites for promotion. So the long way off promotion I you can't really be sure upon as Leigh were in a right mess. I'd make them second favourites now.

Let me be clear before anyone jumps on. I don't expect to be in SL. I don't think we'll be promoted next year either. We could easily finish 8th, as you say they are some excellent teams in this league. But it's a Marketing tag line. We're in a position where we can challenge for promotion if we perform well enough. That's the issue I'm taking up with GFB. I trust he won't be expecting his club to talking about the play-offs because obviously that would be arrogant with them being more points away from 5th than we are from 2ndicon_wink.gif

Also as Chalmers as almost taken a personal war upon SL, I'm pretty certain he's embraced the championship. Its been a fanatic league to watch. Hope it gets more exposure.

Despite getting clobbered by 60 last week, the bookies have made Swinton favourites to beat us and give us 4 points start on the handicap. How has it come to this?

I would love to say anything other than because we are a shambles. I can't though. Im not sure its fair to name names but most people can see which players it is and most of them will be at the club next season. That does not fill me with much hope for next season.

Christ. Let’s hope not. With no money to add to them we’ll be in a relegation battle next year!

It was the timing of it as much as anything else. It was posted on Twitter on the same day - within the hour IIRC - of the announcement about the Dewsbury arrangement, my first reaction was that somebody had hacked the Bulls Twitter account. No wonder people were queuing up to reply "Destination Dewsbury" to that thread.

Good to see you all care so much about us that we're the longest thread on the board at the moment.

Did you have a game today? Oh!

For ever in Dewsbury's shadow. Lol!

Cmon Pete, give Bradford a break,when a team is up there it’s easy to be cocky,but in hard times we must be a bit easy on Clubs.
I always say ,A man with a hole in his pocket,always feels Cocky.

Very good Ian, lol! As for giving Bradford a break, nah never. They've had more breaks than a champion snooker player and they're still an embarrassment of a club. They make Fax look absolutely professional. Bugger 'em!

The 202 message at least shows some ambition and I guess the reason they are at Dewsbury is to be able to put their focus on the squad more than the rent. I’m sure if we could cut our rent then we would be able to bolster the squad but I doubt we can.
As well, I’m all Fax fans must breathing a big sigh of relief that they don’t need to go to that hole in the ground.

As for comments about Fax pushing for promotion next season, we’ll on current form there is nothing further from the truth, maybe in 2 years time we will be pushing for promotion back to the Championship.

Time for something to be turned around at the Shay, hopefully Grix can begin to rebuild a decent squad and get rid of some of the players most have been saying should have gone 2 years ago.

It is with a very heavy heart I say that if the Bradford Bulls was a Pet the PDSA would be advising us about euthanasia.

What a mess. RFL sanction the move but only for 1 year, what a massive conflict of interests totally brought on by the RFL deciding to help one team while others fell by the wayside. Bradford now in such a mess again that the RFL will not allow them to offer contracts to any players. You can only speculate that they have borrowed so much of their central funding in advance that the RFL see them in a grave situation. If I were a Bradford fan I would be asking serious questions of Chalmers as to why he found fit to spend so much on their squad when they obviously knew they would be struggling to meet their costs.

Because they simply must be in super league. At all costs. They believe the myth that super league needs bradford in it. It’s quite sad that they hold onto this delusion whilst around them Rome burns. The game needs a serious wake up call over bradford. Any other club would have been allowed to collapse

Just wondering if Bradford 2020 is a rebrand of Mad Dog 2020?