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| Quote ="Beaujangles"All fair enough,just hope we're not budgeting for top 4 this year,as that clearly won't be happening...'"
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| A certain half back on dual reg from cas incomeing
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| Welcome to Halifax Luke Gale.
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| Same as last year all negativity. Lets see how the the 1st games pan out. Mitch has gone great player but who else worrincey game changer on his day and plenty of entusiasm but also a could be liability. Get behind the team. Off field looks to be going great which must surely help with keeping the club on an even keel with hopefuly some funds available to add to a very good squad. RM has said again their are potential signings still.
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| Hear Hear Banish negative thoughts
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| Quote ="bentleyman":28q61hcmicon_thumb.gif Hear Hear Banish negative thoughts'" then don,t dosnt help mr bentleyman let you buy me a pint in wakey before fev game then will let you off hope your well mate
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| Unfortunately my impeccable source re Blackmore was wrong I wont make that mistake again look fwd to having a pint with you enjoy Ipswich !!
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| Quote ="Uptonfax"Same as last year all negativity. Lets see how the the 1st games pan out. Mitch has gone great player but who else worrincey game changer on his day and plenty of entusiasm but also a could be liability. Get behind the team. Off field looks to be going great which must surely help with keeping the club on an even keel with hopefuly some funds available to add to a very good squad. RM has said again their are potential signings still.'"
Add in to that Boyle as well, nothing spectacular but a good solid pro with some size, and our pack looks incredibly lightweight. If we are thinking of playing Fairbank,Morris, and Tangata as front rowers then it would be a mistake for mine as all 3 are not even that big for 2nd rowers and wont give us the punch we need.
Regards the negativity I don't think its negativity just obvious observations. Anyone who thinks we have not fallen behind the likes of Fev and Toulouse on paper when it comes to recruitment is deluded. Luckily games are not played on paper but it would take a monumental effort from the players we have to beat Fev, Toulouse, and London to a position in the top 4. FWIW I think we only really need a half back, hooker and a prop to put us in good shape so about 100k should do it. In all seriousness though Im not sure we will get those players from Cas, In Maher and Douglas we have probably the only props we will get off them. Douglas looks decent enough but jury will be out on Maher and with Hardaker messing up it also affects the chances of us getting a half off Cas as Roberts will probably move to full back. Trueman has potential but how would he go behind a pack not as dominant as Cas's?
We will be there or there abouts come the end of the season but unlike last season where I thought we might sneak in to the top 4 I feel this season we will just miss out. If the club can sustain the loss of 200K and make that up and then some for the season after then Im totally fine with having this season without speculating to accumulate.
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| Does anyone else have the feeling that with a new board and possibly some outstanding debts being called in that the club looks upon this season as a holding operation.
It seems money is tight and with a tranche of clubs (Fev , Leigh, London, Toronto and Toulouse) who seem to have money to burn possibly the thought in the boardroom is that top four may be out of reach this year. With this in mind perhaps some money is being put aside to have a tilt at a more realistic attempt of top four prize money next year.
I am sure we will be competitive and will hopefully turn over a few of the above teams and that it will go down to the wire. Lets see some of the spirit that was shown in Toulouse last season. A great game and a great weekend. I am looking forward to an interesting season of Championship rugby.
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| Quote ="cowfax"Does anyone else have the feeling that with a new board and possibly some outstanding debts being called in that the club looks upon this season as a holding operation.
It seems money is tight and with a tranche of clubs (Fev , Leigh, London, Toronto and Toulouse) who seem to have money to burn possibly the thought in the boardroom is that top four may be out of reach this year. With this in mind perhaps some money is being put aside to have a tilt at a more realistic attempt of top four prize money next year.
I am sure we will be competitive and will hopefully turn over a few of the above teams and that it will go down to the wire. Lets see some of the spirit that was shown in Toulouse last season. A great game and a great weekend. I am looking forward to an interesting season of Championship rugby.
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There’s a restructure next season and SL clubs are now running SL and Wood is gone. You can bet that the prize for gaining top 4 next season will not match this coming season’s prize. Especially if Toronto hit SL. There will be an almighty clang as the door shuts
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| Quote ="freddies wig"There’s a restructure next season and SL clubs are now running SL and Wood is gone. You can bet that the prize for gaining top 4 next season will not match this coming season’s prize. Especially if Toronto hit SL. There will be an almighty clang as the door shuts'"
Unfortunately, I think you are bang on here. That dreaded closed shop system of franchise is not far away and was probably escalated by Mr Hetherington et al after Leeds found themselvs in the middle 8's followed by Warrington the following season. That and the fact Toronto and Toulouse appear to be destined for the top flight, one way or the other, then this maybe why other clubs are throwing 'last chance saloon' money at this years middle 8's to be at the table before the door does 'clang' shut.
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| Quote ="Living The Dream"Unfortunately, I think you are bang on here. That dreaded closed shop system of franchise is not far away and was probably escalated by Mr Hetherington et al after Leeds found themselvs in the middle 8's followed by Warrington the following season. That and the fact Toronto and Toulouse appear to be destined for the top flight, one way or the other, then this maybe why other clubs are throwing 'last chance saloon' money at this years middle 8's to be at the table before the door does 'clang' shut.'"
Agree 100% with what you say Dave,there is a meeting this coming Wednesday 10th Jan by the SL Clubs ,my prediction to discuss a 14 team SL then back to Franchises,we at Leigh are fortunate to have Derek, my opinion is we have a stronger squad this coming season then last year in SL, and as you say it could be last chance Saloon.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Agree 100% with what you say Dave,there is a meeting this coming Wednesday 10th Jan by the SL Clubs ,my prediction to discuss a 14 team SL then back to Franchises,we at Leigh are fortunate to have Derek, my opinion is we have a stronger squad this coming season then last year in SL, and as you say it could be last chance Saloon.
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Happy New Year Ian. We'll see you and the lads this season. Victorian Cafe Bar, Hawkshead Bitter 3.7% Mmm!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Happy New Year Ian. We'll see you and the lads this season. Victorian Cafe Bar, Hawkshead Bitter 3.7% Mmm!'"
Happy New Year to both you and Di ,it will be great to be back at the Shay in a few weeks time,and hopefully seeing you both a few times in the coming season,I'm really looking forward to this season,it should be very entertaining,see ya soon.
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| New signing to be announced in the league express today according to twitter. 'Snared from a rival club'
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| Quote ="DNAFax"New signing to be announced in the league express today according to twitter. 'Snared from a rival club''"
The Halifax signing in the LE is Kian Morgan from Wakefield.
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| LE seem to be stretching it a bit saying "Snared from a rival club"? He was in Wakefield's academy last season, but from what I've seen he turned down a new contract with them, and hence was a "free agent" when he came on trial to us.
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| 17 Year old full back,hardly what's needed is it,whatever the spin.
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| Quote ="HXSparky"LE seem to be stretching it a bit saying "Snared from a rival club"? He was in Wakefield's academy last season, but from what I've seen he turned down a new contract with them, and hence was a "free agent" when he came on trial to us.'"
I assumed the "snared from a rival club" was a different story, the one about Batley in the running to sign Rochdale's Lewis Galbraith (though that's not reported as a done deal). There was nothing in the Express teaser which said that "snared from a rival club" story related to Halifax.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"The Halifax signing in the LE is Kian Morgan from Wakefield.'"
Never heard of him - not hugely knowledgeable about our academy but he's not on of the names that have been touted for success - sorry
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| We need to sign a half back we all keep saying it but it is falling on deaf ears, we cannot rely on Scott Murrell and Johnno they are not good enough end of story!
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| There's a real lack of quality halfbacks at this level. They tried Gaz Moore and Connor Robinson but neither were up to it really.
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| I think with the Cas deal we are just going to have to wait until we see what team we can put out. Not how we would want it to be but I understand the impact of the 15/16 season blowing all the previous years prize money on big TV screens and plain poor signings at way over their market value , is still being sorely felt. The new management are having to work with the hand they were dealt.
It's a mixture of our best players and what's available from Cas or anywhere. 2 props , a halfback and 1 decent winger desperately needed. The best winger we have currently have is our best fullback. Chester is a but admittedly gains yards from the play of the ball coming out of defence. Tyrer will need to frame to hold his place. Wakefield were very strong but some players were just way off the standard required. It's hold our powder time though until we see the first team sheet of the season.
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| Quote ="jensenFF"I think with the Cas deal we are just going to have to wait until we see what team we can put out. Not how we would want it to be but I understand the impact of the 15/16 season blowing all the previous years prize money on big TV screens and plain poor signings at way over their market value , is still being sorely felt. The new management are having to work with the hand they were dealt.
It's a mixture of our best players and what's available from Cas or anywhere. 2 props , a halfback and 1 decent winger desperately needed. The best winger we have currently have is our best fullback. Chester is a Centre but admittedly gains yards from the play of the ball coming out of defence. Tyrer will need to frame to hold his place. Wakefield were very strong but some players were just way off the standard required. It's hold our powder time though until we see the first team sheet of the season.'"
Given the size of the Castleford list of players we could end up with half the team on DR....we would the be a feeder team just as Wood predicted twenty years ago.
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| Quote ="Dbvada"Given the size of the Castleford list of players we could end up with half the team on DR....we would the be a feeder team just as Wood predicted twenty years ago.'"
Half way to that as it is! HKR, Salford, Castleford. Anyone else want a bit of Fax?
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