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| York have narrowly lost 26v24 at Whitehaven tonight before taking on Fax at the weekend. Whether tonights game and result will have any bearing on Sunday's match remains to be seen. What it does do, very surprisingly, is it leaves York in a real relegation battle and they need good results soon especially with Swintons results of late. Fax struggled badly in the 1st half against The Lions recently before running away with the game in the second forty but Swinton beat Widnes last time out. We will need more of the same on Sunday and i would like to think we have enough to take the two points. Looking forward to a good weekend in York and a victory to top it off. Up The Fax! icon_biggrin.gif
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| This result isn’t as cut and dry as the league table suggests and York have been competitive against both leigh and fev in recent weeks and have some players back the loss to Whitehaven puts them in a relegation battle and with fax still littering their game with I’ll discipline and brainfarts it could go either way . It’ll be interesting to see if there are any changes to the starting pack . Might be worth starting with lannon to stop us getting rolled early on .
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| Always go for a Fax win. We have shown that even with very poor starts we
Have quality to come back and take a win. Give Salty a rest with Maizen on the wing and Landon to start. Any mid week game takes its toll on semi professional players. Fax by 30
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| Surprising to me York have found themselves due to various reasons in the relegation scrap. Newcastle look gone to me but the other spot could be 1 of a number of clubs so that makes them dangerous opponents on sunday. They did lose last night in what sounded like a seesaw type of game and it will surely have taken a toll on them as part time players with another short turnaround for Sundays game. I will go for a fax win 16-30.
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| Based on the Grix interview looks like either Murray or calcott will be dropped for either larroyer or someone on dr or a loan player .
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| Quote ="Listenup94"Based on the Grix interview looks like either Murray or calcott will be dropped for either larroyer or someone on dr or a loan player .'"
I can't for the life of me see how Calcott could be dropped. He's been very good these last few games. I'm starting to wonder about SG! Lindley Liberal Club, Ossett Silver King 4.3% Mmm!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I can't for the life of me see how Calcott could be dropped. He's been very good these last few games. I'm starting to wonder about SG! Lindley Liberal Club, Ossett Silver King 4.3% Mmm!'"
Yeah calcotts been good so I would guess Murray but it’s in response to us getting rolled in the opening 20 minutes of the last 2 games.
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| Maizen gone on loan to Hunslet. Would like to have seen him on the wing as well. When Walmsley goes to dooper league next year, would maybe think that Maizen has the ability to emulate what Walmsley has achieved.
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| Murray has been dropped for Sunday and Castleford's Fonua is included in the squad. With McComb also returning, I'm not sure where Fonua will fit in. And didn't he not show up when selected for the Fax squad at Widnes at the start of the season?
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Murray has been dropped for Sunday and Castleford's Fonua is included in the squad. With McComb also returning, I'm not sure where Fonua will fit in. And didn't he not show up when selected for the Fax squad at Widnes at the start of the season?'"
Fonau was recalled last minute by cas against Widnes. There’s a few options, drop salty n tibbs play fonau and McComb . He could play fonau at centre with salty , McComb or tibbs on the wing . At a stretch he could play fonau at prop , cas fans moaning about losing his pace but he packs a punch both offensively and defensively.
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| Unless Grix has already decided Maizen definitely going at the end of the season - which I'd be really disappointed by, seems absolutely ridiculous to bring in Fonau who's only possible position is centre. Saltonstall looks to me to still be carrying an injury from a few weeks back and looked horribly exposed by pace last week - would have been perfect opportunity to give Maizen a chance in what most people see as his best position. We brought him in on the strength of his Italy performances- on the wing - when he completely overshadowed our current star winger.
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| Quote ="Ilkley Fax"Unless Grix has already decided Maizen definitely going at the end of the season - which I'd be really disappointed by, seems absolutely ridiculous to bring in Fonau who's only possible position is centre. Saltonstall looks to me to still be carrying an injury from a few weeks back and looked horribly exposed by pace last week - would have been perfect opportunity to give Maizen a chance in what most people see as his best position. We brought him in on the strength of his Italy performances- on the wing - when he completely overshadowed our current star winger.'"
Just more Grix madness which was always going to bring up specualtion that Maizen is been punished for something rather than just a case of needing game time. I think recruitment next year may be a problem as I imagine players will look and wonder if we are right for them as so many new players seemed to be pushed back out.
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| Absolutely barmy goings on. I wonder if Fonau will actually turn up this time, when will we learn? People outside the club must be wondering what is going on and the players must be baffled too. It's no wonder we are so inconsistent let's hope our latest DR adventure doesn't backfire on us.
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| I can not see us not playing Fonua and i would expect him to be at centre which would lead me to thinking it will be Tibbs that is dropped which would be harsh considering how he played last week. I just wonder with Fonua being off contract at the end of this season and i would guess he could be leaving Cas if Grix is taking this opportunity to have a look at him as a possible signing for next year just a bit of guesswork but who knows.
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| I thought Grix doesn't like lazy players and what I've seen of Fonua on the telly he seems a bit lazy (isn't that why Cas have dropped him?) so it's all abit ironic that he drops lazy players but brings in a DR lazy player!
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"I thought Grix doesn't like lazy players and what I've seen of Fonua on the telly he seems a bit lazy (isn't that why Cas have dropped him?) so it's all abit ironic that he drops lazy players but brings in a DR lazy player!'"
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| A lot of players who might be lazy seem to be players who have come from full time environments to part time. Some have even commented on how hard it is being part time as you have so all your training over a few evening as apposed to having it spread
Out every day of the week and also having to juggle it with another job. Being a semi professional sportsman takes a lot of dedication and discipline to succeed. Maybe more than a full time player
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| Wow meltdown time again. You'd think we were the Bulls and using DR and loans every week the way some react in here and social media.
As for Maizen I'm not sure what games people watch. He's shown the odd glimpse, obviously got pace. But his defence has been all over the place, even when he's moved out to the wing in some games. And he doesn't run his weight, doesn't offer the same endeavour or threat doing the hard yards you expect of your three quarters.
Suggesting players might not want to come here with what they've seen, what a laugh. Players with the right attitude seem to have managed fine. If you prefer to keep players that don't fit in or won't do the hard yards in attack and defence alongside their teammates then that is the way to lose the dressing room.
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| Quote ="gizempo"Wow meltdown time again. You'd think we were the Bulls and using DR and loans every week the way some react in here and social media.
As for Maizen I'm not sure what games people watch. He's shown the odd glimpse, obviously got pace. But his defence has been all over the place, even when he's moved out to the wing in some games. And he doesn't run his weight, doesn't offer the same endeavour or threat doing the hard yards you expect of your three quarters.
Suggesting players might not want to come here with what they've seen, what a laugh. Players with the right attitude seem to have managed fine. If you prefer to keep players that don't fit in or won't do the hard yards in attack and defence alongside their teammates then that is the way to lose the dressing room.'"
Where is the meltdown? I think everything that has been mentioned or asked are legitimate questions that should be being asked by anyone who has anything invested in the club. Which games was Maizen moved out to the wing that stand out for you as examples? I agree about some of what you say about him but ask anyone to play a position they have not played a lot of and it would be unfair to expect them to excel.
I get the theory behind good attitude and keeping the dressing room but our performances this season don't seem to tie in with that. We have a big discipline problem that has been a feature of Grix's reign which we seem no closer to solving, we have a habit of starting games slow which Grix has called the players out on numerous times this season and again we have seemingly no soloution to this and that is despite having players with good attitudes and whom toe the line. If we are saying Grix has weeded out the bad attitude/lazy players then the players on the pitch for us can no longer be to blame can they and the problem must lie somewhere else?
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| Quote ="gizempo"Wow meltdown time again. You'd think we were the Bulls and using DR and loans every week the way some react in here and social media.
As for Maizen I'm not sure what games people watch. He's shown the odd glimpse, obviously got pace. But his defence has been all over the place, even when he's moved out to the wing in some games. And he doesn't run his weight, doesn't offer the same endeavour or threat doing the hard yards you expect of your three quarters.
Suggesting players might not want to come here with what they've seen, what a laugh. Players with the right attitude seem to have managed fine. If you prefer to keep players that don't fit in or won't do the hard yards in attack and defence alongside their teammates then that is the way to lose the dressing room.'"
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| I was speaking to the guy who does a lot of the photography for fax on match days at the legends night , he said he wishes this forum was shut down as it’s toxic and brings no constructive criticism whatsoever and is basically a place for victor meldrews to get their moan out of the way . Seems this place has one foot in the grave ….
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| Quote ="Listenup94"I was speaking to the guy who does a lot of the photography for fax on match days at the legends night , he said he wishes this forum was shut down as it’s toxic and brings no constructive criticism whatsoever and is basically a place for victor meldrews to get their moan out of the way . Seems this place has one foot in the grave ….'"
It's opinions though isn't it. I see lots of constructive comments on here.
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| Quote ="Listenup94"I was speaking to the guy who does a lot of the photography for fax on match days at the legends night , he said he wishes this forum was shut down as it’s toxic and brings no constructive criticism whatsoever and is basically a place for victor meldrews to get their moan out of the way . Seems this place has one foot in the grave ….'"
Its an online version of what we used to talk about in pubs in the 80's & 90's. People pay a lot of money to watch our club and they are entitled to their opinion(within reason) no matter how one eyed or bias it may be. People from the club can choose to read it or ignore it but at the end of the day those fans that are paying their money through the gate are also helping to pay their wages.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Where is the meltdown? I think everything that has been mentioned or asked are legitimate questions that should be being asked by anyone who has anything invested in the club. Which games was Maizen moved out to the wing that stand out for you as examples? I agree about some of what you say about him but ask anyone to play a position they have not played a lot of and it would be unfair to expect them to excel.
I get the theory behind good attitude and keeping the dressing room but our performances this season don't seem to tie in with that. We have a big discipline problem that has been a feature of Grix's reign which we seem no closer to solving, we have a habit of starting games slow which Grix has called the players out on numerous times this season and again we have seemingly no soloution to this and that is despite having players with good attitudes and whom toe the line. If we are saying Grix has weeded out the bad attitude/lazy players then the players on the pitch for us can no longer be to blame can they and the problem must lie somewhere else?'"
I think the discipline issue hasn’t been solved because the players causing it seem undroppable , I can only imagine their stats are off the charts or Grix is guilty of rose tinted glasses as regards the originals , ie tangata ( the main protagonist in this imo )fairbank , kavanagh and larroyer , I’d like to see the stats on their collective discipline . I appreciate their aggressive nature is necessary but for me they often get the balance wrong , lannon for me is a perfect example of someone who has the balance right ( runs hard tackles hard gets onside ptb correctly doesn’t chirp at the ref and no brainfarts) the players I’ve mentioned are good players but can’t be but in the same bracket.
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| Quote ="Listenup94"I think the discipline issue hasn’t been solved because the players causing it seem undroppable , I can only imagine their stats are off the charts or Grix is guilty of rose tinted glasses as regards the originals , ie tangata ( the main protagonist in this imo )fairbank , kavanagh and larroyer , I’d like to see the stats on their collective discipline . I appreciate their aggressive nature is necessary but for me they often get the balance wrong , lannon for me is a perfect example of someone who has the balance right ( runs hard tackles hard gets onside ptb correctly doesn’t chirp at the ref and no brainfarts) the players I’ve mentioned are good players but can’t be but in the same bracket.'"
Aye, that's about right regarding discipline although Kav isn't too bad. Lannon though I thought was absolutely outstanding against Barrow and put in a performance of all round quality, a joy to watch from a forwards point of view. Anyroad, time for off. York here we come. Up The Fax!
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