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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I think it is wonderful that they go to all this trouble, don't you?'"
Yes I do - and I still want to know why; what possible benefit could there be to the worldwide secret society of Freemasons who've been collectively pulling the wool over our sheep-like eyes for centuries, if the world's population suddenly found out that space isn't real? If it isn't real, why create and perpetuate the most complicated cover-up job ever conceived?
I don't get it.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The holographic globe=wide setup'"
You mean disc-wide?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Yes I do - and I still want to know why; what possible benefit could there be to the worldwide secret society of Freemasons who've been collectively pulling the wool over our sheep-like eyes for centuries, if the world's population suddenly found out that space isn't real? If it isn't real, why create and perpetuate the most complicated cover-up job ever conceived?
I don't get it.'"
That's the key question to the Flat-Earthers. Why? Why bother? What's the point?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"You have some monster holographic globe=wide setup, entirely hidden permanently from view, which yet somehow manages to transmit perfectly calibrated images of thousands of satellites, without fail, to the second, wherever you are on the planet. '"
I'm interested to know how they project through the big ice walls, or are we missing something? Do they project onto the big ice walls? Are we really ice bound in a complex Truman Show?
I'm sure the flat one will be along soon with another batch of YouTube videos to show us how it all works.
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| [iPlease find me an authentic piece of evidence that shows the earth from space without fisheye lenses or CGI goodluck. You'd think all that NASA junk orbiting the so called Globe could produce ONE single authentic footage except for [/i[url=https://youtu.be/l7BhcufC-5Y?t=643THIS.[/url [iproving Beautiful flat horizon.[/i
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| Would it not be better for all concerned on here to give the paranoid posters there own proper section on the main boards as, let's face it, there's very little science or technology being posted by them in the 'Science & Technology' sub-section? Or at least stick this thread in the Sin Bin with the other nonsense threads.
Just a thought.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"[i[uThe satellites are not actually a figment of imagination though. How NASA does this,[/u[/i I can't imagine, but they must have these infinitely powered holographic projectors all over the entire world, which beam fake images of thousands of orbiting satellites into the night sky, so that of the 0.1% (or whatever of the population who ever bother to look for them, and of those, the 0.1% who go further and want to check the satellites position, direction and brightness against the permanently available ephemera, it will all, precisely, correspond! '"
Copy, Paste, Repeat.Thought you had finished posting on the Lunatic thread anyway.
Quote FLAT STANLEY Wrote:[i As my research has indicated there are a plethora of platforms that can mimic satellite utility, so lets review.
1. Land-based technologies. Loran (long range navigation). 2. GPS uses Cell-tower triangulation not Satellites
3. High Altitude Airships (HAA) 4. High Altitude Platforms (HAP)
5. Lighter-than-air vehicles (LAV) 6. High Altitude Long Endurance (HALE)
7. High Altitude Long Operation (HALO) 8. StratSat
9. Airborne Relay Communication (ARC) 10. HeliPlat which connects to the HeliNet System
11. High Altitude Shuttle System (HASS) 12. Small Balloon Systems (SBS)
13. Nano Balloon Systems (NBS) 14. Google Loon System
15. Stratospheric Platform Systems (SPS) 16. High Altitude Long Endurance Demonstrator (HALE-D)
17 Undersea Cable 18. DARPA Integrated Sensor is Structure or ISIS
So as you see there are at least 18 platforms that can be used independently, in tandem or groups to provide all the services that satellites supposedly provide. The most glaring aspect of satellite fakery is cost. All 18 platforms I've mentioned are substantially more cost-efficient than satellites and inherently more reliable. It makes no sense to continually risk hurling satellites into space if more cost-efficient, reliable and readily maintainable terrestrial systems already exist, which they do, the dubious existence of satellites is even more definitive since NASA cannot furnish a single actual photo or video footage of real satellites.[/i
=#800000[i[uWhich is more probable. That satellites exist but NASA seems incapable of confirming their existence or simply they do not exist at all? Occam's Razor makes it simple, they don't exist at all.[/u[/i
I await the next batch of cranial insults and the tongue twisted comedy'" [i Simples[/i
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Copy, Paste, Repeat.Thought you had finished posting on the Lunatic thread anyway.
[i Simples[/i
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If there aren't any Satellites, would be NASA's reason for creating the concept of Satellites & making people think they're there? Why would they bother?
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Would it not be better for all concerned on here to give the=#BF0000[u[i paranoid[/i[/u posters there own proper section on the main boards as, let's face it, there's very little science or technology being posted by them in the 'Science & Technology' sub-section? Or at least stick this thread in the Sin Bin with the other nonsense threads.
Just a thought.'"
[iNobody's forcing you to visit these boards. You CHOSE to stop posting and now you're back. Whose the[/i=#800000[i[u paranoid [/u[/i[i one then[/i
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"If there aren't any Satellites, would be NASA's reason for creating the concept of Satellites & making people think they're there? Why would they bother?'"
Easy. It reinforce's people like you perception's of the globe theory and the Illusion that They're in Control of Space. Two Birds One Stone. And also telecommunication companies can rip you off monetary wise saying it costs an arm and a leg sending their fakery up in fireworks. Simples.
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Easy. It reinforce's people like you perception's of the globe theory and the Illusion that They're in Control of Space. Two Birds One Stone. And also they can rip you off monetary wise saying it costs an arm and a leg sending fireworks up there. Simples.'"
And for what purpose? Why the need to make people believe the Earth is a globe and that there's a space out there? What's the goal and why has it been kept up for hundreds of years?
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"And for what purpose? Why the need to make people believe the Earth is a globe and that there's a space out there? What's the goal and why has it been kept up for hundreds of years?'"
I've been through all this earlier in the thread but read these couple of quotes and you should get the gist of why. They the Freemasonic Occult of Satan have indoctrinated every mind through the schools system with their Heliocentric Darwinian religion. Basically hiding God's word and Creation through the Heliocentric Theory.
Quote [iTheButcher Wrote: The Earth isn't flat. Nasa really does do stuff in space. Satellites are real. The world isn't run by some Satanic secret society. Stars are real. The sun really is far away. The ISS really is orbiting the planet. GPS is real. The Earth is old. We're all related. Evolution connects every living thing. We're apes. This isn't me blinded by some kind of indoctrination, it's reality. Proven. Tested. Relied upon. It's not a big conspiracy.[/i'"
Quote [i FLAT STNLEY Wrote: Darwinsim (Evolution) is a Religion. These evolutionists are radicals no different than ISIS (Radical Islam) or Radical Christians. Darwinists are ignorant. They simply will not let go of the idea that they have come from Rocks. They insist their ancestors are ape-like creatures. How Bizarre. Everything came from nothing. Your stuck in the theoretical Darwinian Rabbit hole where evolution is more bizarre than any outrageous conspiracy. The Globe has never been proved, NASA really do fake space, Satellites have never been proven, The World is absolutely being dominated by an occult Shadow Organisation, Stars are just wandering and twinkling in the firmament, The ISS is in a specialised studio,, GPS is ground based triangulation, the earth is old, we're all related through creation, I'm am 100% human and not an Ape. You are totally indoctrinated into Heliocentric Darwinian Theories which is a world view religious concept. And who said that my ideas are based on a Religious Ideology, when your true belief system proves this very contradiction. Its just Freemasonic Theories indoctrinated into the curriculum and never was proven it was just accepted as truth without any conviction. Take the plank out of your own eye before observing splinters in others..Cheers[/i'"
See everything is the opposite to God's word. This next Awesome quote by (WTFIA) absolutely debunks Darwin in One sentence.
Quote [i whothefeckisalice Wrote: Darwin himself failed to conceive his own theorized natural process belief as he was a Freemason. This Society itself holds a significant account of its formation and its existence based upon the scriptures of the Genesis account where Eve was fooled by Satan in the Garden of Eden where she ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge=#BF0000[u. In Freemasonry this scripture is the baseline of their dogma to worship Satan for setting free mankind and giving mankind the knowledge of perceiving what is Good and Evil. [/u
The Darwinian theory is just Science propagating or opposing against Creationism in all forms. I believe in the Creation Scriptures too.=#800000[u The Atheist, Big Bang, Darwinian Everything came from nothing theory to me is purely fabricated to fit the Freemason agenda of swindling the publics perception of God the Creator. So Darwin himself believed the Biblical Genesis account worshiping Satan,[/u Satanism dogma ignores the existence of God, implores man to become god. Darwinism is exactly the same, it negates God's existence and excels mans superiority to become your own god through science and people buy into this junk hook line and sinker the comparisons of the two dogma are identical.[/i'"
The above quotes was absolutely bang on the button.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"If there aren't any Satellites, would be NASA's reason for creating the concept of Satellites & making people think they're there? Why would they bother?'"
And what would be the point of maintaining ad infinitum a detailed holographic array of fake satellites, which look to be real but aren't, that practically no-one on the planet gives a shoite about, and which are holographically projected to be seen perfectly from anywhere on Earth, when no conspiracist can point to a SINGLE "projector".
But I have 100% confidence that the usual suspects will not address the obvious namely that on any given clear night you can watch literally hundreds of objects in orbit, with your own eyes. They prefer to totally ignore inconvenient undeniable facts.
It was like the inconvenient ISS which, damn it, you can watch from anywhere on the globe when night, clear sky and its path at your location intersect. This was just a "holograph". But - as the "holograph" crosses the Sun - it is silhouetted! How could that be? Yes - you guessed it - any image that doesn't fit is "CGI". This is so, even though with some planning you can watch the ISS cross the face of the Sun, or the Moon, with your very own eyes, but they refuse to entertain that, because once they saw it, they would have to admit it is real, and that would never do!
They will dismiss literally millions of images as "CGI". Even one you took yourself tonight. It would be CGI, or cut'n'paste. Their mindset simply does not permit admitting ANY image that doesn't "fit" as real.
By analogy, they can't deny the visibility of these ubiquitous satellites -- so don't! Ignore the problem altogether! Standard fingers in ears na-na-na reaction. Sad, really.
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I thought it was a reasonable request for everyone. You get your own little corner to fantasize and pat yourself on the back, and everyone else gets to click on Science & Technology without having to see yet another title brought down to the basement asylum. The trouble here being that you take over threads with baffling nonsense to the point where people avoid it. I'm quite happy to leave you in your little ideological echo chamber. I have no interest in your fantasies, which seem to crop-up in other threads all the time.
Do you not think it better to have your own little area just for you? Where others can come to you with questions rather than you hijack threads?
You might want to take note that I posted an idea/solution for all and not about your ridiculous ideas. So calling me paranoid for posting back in this thread is not only misunderstanding what paranoia is, but all about having a pop. Which is not surprising, but I thought you'd be open to a reasonable suggestion. How foolhardy...
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Basically hiding God's word and Creation through the Heliocentric Theory.
See everything is the opposite to God's word.'"
And that's where the discussion becomes pointless; you demand intellectual rigour and an open-minded examination of facts, as opposed to blind faith in someone else's word, however well researched and based in fact - and yet you espouse the very same kind of blind faith in a made-up dogma that has absolutely no basis in fact and never will have. In short, you believe in the made up word of a made up God, yet you call me a sheep for believing in science and facts and things I can see and prove with my own eyes.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Any credibility you may have had is gone.'"
I don't think he ever had any. He's always been a figure of fun, now he's a god bothering figure of fun.
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| The moon landings didn't happen. FACT.
Muhammad split the moon, if a shuttle had have landed it would have caused it to break up again, NASA (liars) denied it happened, then produced a photo proving it. Checkmate atheists and Christians (probably).
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| Quote ="bren2k"[i[uAnd that's where the discussion becomes pointless;[/u[/i'"
Why is it pointless, because you refuse to believe the Freemasonic Agenda.
Quote ="bren2k" ;[i you demand intellectual rigour and an open-minded examination of facts, as opposed to[/i =#BF0000[iblind faith in someone else's word, however well researched and based in fact[/i '"
Why do people love hypocrisy on these boards. The Bible is the most read and researched book ever. No Researcher as ever debunked the Bible, Biblical prophecies have been played out in vast quantities. FACT. Also you accuse me for having Blind Faith, we'll whose the ONE believing the bunch of THEORY lying Freemasonic, Darwinian Luciferians who ultimately are Bible believers but obviously see Lucifer as their God. Darwin doesn't except his own theory due to his masonic routes. See you too have blind faith in bull dogma. At least my faith is prophetic and undebunkable. Darwin can be debunked in one word. Freemason.
Quote Bren2k Wrote:[i you believe in the made up word of a made up God, yet you call me a sheep for believing in science and facts and things I can see and prove with my own eyes[/i.'"
[iSee this how Atheists are ignorant. God's word is not made up, Darwins is, i don't call you a sheep for believing in science i call you a sheep for following the mainsteam narrative and your ignorance of not being able to perceive you've been brainwashed and hypnotized into Heliocentric Darwinian Religious worldview, i chose my faith. Hahahaha you didn't you was conned into yours without even knowing. Whose the fool eh. Whose was made up, mine certainly wasn't, Wiith regards as to what you see with your own eyes, well you ain't taking much notice of horizons then, flat straight and eye level regardless of altitude proof of a Geocentric plane, impossible on a ball. So a bit of advice for you. Believe your true perceptions and you'll see a different world, and stop watching/believing mainstream narratives.. [/i
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| Thought i'd post this bit of proof that the FAKE ISS doesn't travel 17.000 mph as NASA tell you. [url=https://youtu.be/EDOtJEdvFPQMore NASA Bull[/url
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"The Bible is the most read and researched book ever. No Researcher as ever debunked the Bible, Biblical prophecies have been played out in vast quantities. FACT. Also you accuse me for having Blind Faith, we'll whose the ONE believing the bunch of THEORY lying Freemasonic, Darwinian Luciferians who ultimately are Bible believers but obviously see Lucifer as their God.'"
No aspect of religion has ever been proven; and the burden of proof lies with the believer I would suggest - it isn't my responsibility to disprove your unproven, untested and evidence free assertion that god exists.
As for blind faith - religion *requires* blind faith, due to the aforementioned lack of proof or evidence, so I'd suggest that you're the hypocrite; the things I believe about the issues that were under discussion here before you ruined it, are scientifically proven facts, with a vast evidence base, plenty of which are verifiable with my own eyes - no faith, blind or otherwise, is required.
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| Quote ="bren2k"=#800000[u[iNo aspect of religion has ever been proven;[/i[/u.'"
[iHmmmm wrong. Biblical prophecies in both Testaments are what then. I'll name them all if you wish.[/i
Quote ="bren2k" , so I'd suggest that you're the hypocrite; the things I believe about the issues that were under discussion here before you ruined it, are scientifically proven facts, '"
[i[uThis passage reportedly from Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, as quoted in John Daniel's book Scarlet and the Beast Volume II, discusses the Darwin-Masonic connection:[/u[/i
Quote By John Daniel. [iBefore coming to Derby in 1788, Dr. [Erasmus Darwin had been made a Mason in the famous Time Immemorial Lodge of Cannongate Kilwinning, No. 2, of Scotland. Sir Francis Darwin, one of the Doctor's sons, was made a Mason in Tyrian Lodge, No. 253, at Derby, in 1807 or 1808. His son Reginald was made a Mason in Tyrian Lodge in 1804. The name of Charles Darwin does appear on the rolls of the Lodge in 1829, he, like Francis, was a Mason.'"
I hope this helps. Proves Darwin didn't believe his own fabrication of Evolution. They've done an awesome job indoctrinating you.[/i
[iWatch the Darwinians bristle with rage and snarl, and engage in absurd=#800040 ad hominem [/iattacks as they impotently fight tooth and nail for the survival of their unnaturally selected Religion
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Are you on commission from YouTube?????'"
If you block him, You won't need to see any of that stuff. It reached the point with me that I'd write many paragraphs of carefully considered response, only to get some bombastic non-reply where he ignored all the points made an instead either linked to really embarrassing YT videos, and regurgitated wild, illogical statements and bald assertions.
It is a forum for discussion and debate, but he hasn't any desire for debate at all - he will not even debate with himself the readily available evidence of his own eyes, (whether through brainwashing or severe trollery - still can't make up my mind which he is) but either way there is, it turns out, no point at all in engaging with him.
As I've said before, it really is playing chess with a pigeon, which will crap on the board, knock over all the pieces and walk off claiming victory.
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| Interesting article: [urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35411684[/url
I wonder if Dr David Grimes has worked out how thousands, maybe millions of Freemasons have kept up the lies for hundreds of years?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"If you block him, You won't need to see any of that stuff. It reached the point with me that I'd write many paragraphs of carefully considered response, only to get some bombastic non-reply where he ignored all the points made an instead either linked to really embarrassing YT videos, and regurgitated wild, illogical statements and bald assertions.
It is a forum for discussion and debate, but he hasn't any desire for debate at all - he will not even debate with himself the readily available evidence of his own eyes, (whether through brainwashing or severe trollery - still can't make up my mind which he is) but either way there is, it turns out, no point at all in engaging with him.
As I've said before, it really is playing chess with a pigeon, which will crap on the board, knock over all the pieces and walk off claiming victory.'"
[i[uPearls Before Swines....[/u[/i
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