Just how hypocritical can you get.
"Our NHS", "frontline staff", keeping the nation "safe" and their reward is a 1% pay offer WTF

True colours shining through.
Yes, we know that the public purse is strained but, seriously, is this the reward for the magnificent efforts of the NHS staff through the course of the pandemic ?

Sham on you Boris, you certainly know how to "level things up"

Well it’s probably more than other public and private sector pay rises - not ideal, but at the end of the day we’ve created quite a debt here

It will be interesting to see what the pay review body comes up with and whether anything changes and whether our MP's duck the issue when their own review body comes up with what they "deserve".
Bojo owes his life to the NHS, clapped them every Thursday night and this is what he and his chancellor believe they are worth ?
Maybe they are "luck to have a job"

As a member of NHS staff I'm not surprised in the least at this pittance. If I worked for Deloittes or PWC I'm sure I'd be quids in as money grows on trees for consultancy firms.

You really think the NHS has performed magnificently - really. I think it has been an absolute disgrace. It from a function treating many and various illnesses/conditions to treating just one. What happens to all those cancer sufferers who die because they couldn't get treated all those patients who need routine surgery to improve their life e.g. cataracts, knee replacement.

No doubt those at the sharp end of ICU have performed the day job but they are few and far between - the volumes through the NHS in the last year are approx. 20% of normal - why do the vast majority of staff deserve a significant pay increase?

This pandemic demonstrated how poor the NHS is run and how wasteful it is. I thought it was the job of the NHS to protect us not us to protect the NHS?

It wasn't very good of the GP's to abandon the surgeries and head to the hills for safety leaving the surgery lights on and not bothering to lock the doors.

The lowly paid and the volunteers have helped massively to keep things going - even with the vaccinations.

While people do this - and give to charities,those with money just ignore the responsibilities.

Those with Covid have used it against frontline workers as a weapon.Those offenders go to prison and are given the vaccine.The frontline workers carry on - and are still without a vaccination.

Warped values in this country.It ain't gonna change.

Well you wouldn’t because their fee earners have all had to take pay decreases. Just like the majority of the UK, but sure. Take your frustrations out on someone who has nothing to do with you.

If the Government can afford to waste billions on a failed track and trace system, then they can afford a bit more than a measly 1% increase. Oh I forgot, this is Tory Britain, where hard and sefless work is ridiculed rather than appreciated.

You're right about warped values



Mind you if Sunak follows through on his "promise" to cut £17 billion from public spending, there will be rioting on the streets.

They 'll be cheering in the queues for the British food banks when they learn how many millions,to each and every foreign country,has been reduced. Or perhaps not,when they tally up how much goes out to foreign countries. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ak-reveals Strange how particular Conservative MP's are quite pleased to give money which is not their own,away,while ensuring their expenses claims for minutaei don't miss a trick.

They 'll be cheering in the queues for the British food banks when they learn how many millions,to each and every foreign country,has been reduced. Or perhaps not,when they tally up how much goes out to foreign countries. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ak-reveals Strange how particular Conservative MP's are quite pleased to give money which is not their own,away,while ensuring their expenses claims for minutaei don't miss a trick.

So where does Boris’s extra £350 million quid a week Brexit bonus for the NHS come into it, and whose getting that then?

It's already been spent on dodgy PPE and lining the pockets of "friends" of the cabinet.
According to Boris all of the information regarding the contracts doled out to Tory friends and family have been made public (which is required by law within 30 days) but, once again, Boris hasn't quite been telling the truth as there are a huge number that STILL haven't been made public

I agree awarding PPE contracts to mates looks terrible - even if they did locate the PPE needed

As for track and trace - its a national disgrace

The point with the PPE is that many of those companies failed to source and provide PPE, despite having been paid HUGE amounts of cash to do so and some of these deals STILL remain hidden form public scrutiny.

Has there ever been a time where blatant payments to friends and family have been so frequent.
Talk about the new normal and there is no shame whatsoever.

We could add the £43m that a Tory donor saved by the Tory minister at the expense of local government.
The pandemic will end and then the cover it provided will disappear and the governments many failures will be investigated but maybe not by the Sun or Express.

I think you're getting confused between the staff who work in the NHS and the privileged Tory politicians who have routinely underfunded it.

I don't think I am - you could put the whole GDP of this country into the NHS and it still wouldn't be sufficient. Where do you stop - what is the correct funding level?

Was the underfunding the route course of all these people getting Covid in hospital or a lack of simple cleanliness? It certainly wasn't due to a lack of staff or products as a big chunk of the staff weren't actually working.

The NHS proved it couldn't function when the pressure ramped up it became the National Covid Service and it didn't do a great job of that - highest death rate in Europe, highest death rate per million population in the world. Who sent all the infected pensioners back to care homes etc. etc.

The service needs a massive overhaul and as a population we need to decide what we actually want from a health service?

He simply wouldn't have gone ahead with the property if the charge remained in place - so do you want to provide jobs for many years or funds that yet another Labour council can blow on the many and various woke projects it engages in.

Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"I don't think I am - you could put the whole GDP of this country into the NHS and it still wouldn't be sufficient. Where do you stop - what is the correct funding level? Was the underfunding the route course of all these people getting Covid in hospital or a lack of simple cleanliness? It certainly wasn't due to a lack of staff or products as a big chunk of the staff weren't actually working. The NHS proved it couldn't function when the pressure ramped up it became the National Covid Service and it didn't do a great job of that - highest death rate in Europe, highest death rate per million population in the world. Who sent all the infected pensioners back to care homes etc. etc. The service needs a massive overhaul and as a population we need to decide what we actually want from a health service?'" Compared to other G7 countries our proportion of GDP spent on healthcare is quite low and actually fell between 2013 and 2017 (most recent figures I found). With an ageing population, I doubt continuing to spend less, as a % of GDP, is sustainable. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2019-08-29 I agree that some sort of national conversation about provision of healthcare would be valuable. However, the difficulty from my perspective is who would be framing it. There is no point engaging seriously with people you don’t trust, you just have to do what you can to resist.

Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"I don't think I am - you could put the whole GDP of this country into the NHS and it still wouldn't be sufficient. Where do you stop - what is the correct funding level? Was the underfunding the route course of all these people getting Covid in hospital or a lack of simple cleanliness? It certainly wasn't due to a lack of staff or products as a big chunk of the staff weren't actually working. The NHS proved it couldn't function when the pressure ramped up it became the National Covid Service and it didn't do a great job of that - highest death rate in Europe, highest death rate per million population in the world. Who sent all the infected pensioners back to care homes etc. etc. The service needs a massive overhaul and as a population we need to decide what we actually want from a health service?'" Compared to other G7 countries our proportion of GDP spent on healthcare is quite low and actually fell between 2013 and 2017 (most recent figures I found). With an ageing population, I doubt continuing to spend less, as a % of GDP, is sustainable. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2019-08-29 I agree that some sort of national conversation about provision of healthcare would be valuable. However, the difficulty from my perspective is who would be framing it. There is no point engaging seriously with people you don’t trust, you just have to do what you can to resist.

What projects like building a new media facility, redecorating number 11 or building a bunker underground for those Photo opportunities by a tax payer funded photographer.
I guess you could add to the list the money wasted on buying PPE from favoured Tory friends or ignoring advice and developing a very expensive but failed Track and Trace app. The problem is our PM is good at wasting taxpayers money with his pet projects like the garden bridge and water cannons. He is especially good at lying and much like his mate Trump never admitting it.

Are you sure that it wouldn't have gone ahead or have you been listening to (and believing) another very iffy Tory minister.
You should take more note of his body language under questioning and see just ho often he looks down at the floor when answering questions.
I wouldn't trust him if he said today was Tuesday.

Was his large donation from the developer to the Tory coffers a coincidence

It was £10k - hardly huge - the developer himself said the project wasn't viable with the addition of a further £40m of cost.

Do you think the unions have an unhealthy influence over Labour? what's the difference or is OK for the unions but not for private investors?

The unions are made up of British working people. A number of the Tory donors are non UK tax payers, some are russian with links to Putin.

Of course the Unions have an influence over Labour and it's not always a good thing.
However, the current government looks grubby, with plenty of jobs for the boys, friends being awarded contracts and generally, a level of "sleaze" that hasn't been so blatantly open in ANY previous government.
It may well be that this is how things have always been but, NOBODY should be comfortable with the blatant abuse of power and blatant ignoring of the checks and balances that are in place to try and ensure that public money is spent "properly"

Completely agree with that.