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| Sorry for stealing the Kaiser Chiefs album title but, what a bloody shambles we have
An Education Minister, failing spectacularly in his post, with the exam shambles and his boss lacking the balls to deal with him.
What on earth is going on with the Exam predictions ?
Are these the same kids who's education is SO IMPORTANT, where many in the state sector are being heavily penalised for recent history at their schools.
Having had over 3 months to come up with a fair and transparent system, they have waited for the results to be out (or due out) before acting.
What an utter disgrace.
Sturgeon, to her credit, acted very quickly to remedy the problem North of the border and the N. Irish too have responded swiftly but, Williamson and Boris are just letting everything play out in public.
Where is the leadership and rule of common sense ?
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| He is in Scotland camping, when the problems mount the leader goes on holiday.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Sorry for stealing the Kaiser Chiefs album title but, what a bloody shambles we have
An Education Minister, failing spectacularly in his post, with the exam shambles and his boss lacking the balls to deal with him.
What on earth is going on with the Exam predictions ?
Are these the same kids who's education is SO IMPORTANT, where many in the state sector are being heavily penalised for recent history at their schools.
Having had over 3 months to come up with a fair and transparent system, they have waited for the results to be out (or due out) before acting.
What an utter disgrace.
Sturgeon, to her credit, acted very quickly to remedy the problem North of the border and the N. Irish too have responded swiftly but, Williamson and Boris are just letting everything play out in public.
Where is the leadership and rule of common sense ?'"
Do us all a favour then, go live somewhere else and quit whining.
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| Quote ="IR80"Do us all a favour then, go live somewhere else and quit whining.'"
Is that your solution to everything?
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Is that your solution to everything?'"
No, my solution is to support people and find ways forward, not bleat and moan from behind a keyboard, being jealous, spiteful and hate filled.
I recommend it, we are all a long time dead. Are you and vengecat ever positive about anything?
Seems to me life has dealt you a rough hand, but it's always better to see if you can get a pair than moan about the high card. (which you wont understand)
Stop whining, live your life, love your family. I would say friends, but I very much doubt anyone choses to keep your company.
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| Quote ="IR80"Do us all a favour then, go live somewhere else and quit whining.'"
So, when the government is called out for making a complete balls of something, those calling them out should leave ??
In a cruel twist of irony, you sound like you believe in some kind of communist dictatorship.
Just for clarity, do you think that The Government have got this one right ?
At the point where they knew that grades would be decided by assessment, OVER 4 MONTHS AGO, as simple, clear, method should have been agreed to prevent the very situation that is happening now.
Scotland has been decisive in correcting the issue, N. Ireland has been decisive and quelle surprise (sorry for using French, I realise this could confuse some), Boris is on holiday and his Education Secretary is in fecking hiding.
They need to get a grip.
Enough lies, enough waffle, time for the Government to do their job and run the country.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"So, when the government is called out for making a complete balls of something, those calling them out should leave ??
In a cruel twist of irony, you sound like you believe in some kind of communist dictatorship.
Just for clarity, do you think that The Government have got this one right ?
At the point where they knew that grades would be decided by assessment, OVER 4 MONTHS AGO, as simple, clear, method should have been agreed to prevent the very situation that is happening now.
Scotland has been decisive in correcting the issue, N. Ireland has been decisive and quelle surprise (sorry for using French, I realise this could confuse some), Boris is on holiday and his Education Secretary is in fecking hiding.
They need to get a grip.
Enough lies, enough waffle, time for the Government to do their job and run the country.
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They are running the country, just not running it how you would like, but WE VOTED NOT TO HAVE CRINGEBIN or STAMMER, make a choice, deal with it, of ferk off to Venezuela.
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| Quote ="IR80"They are running the country, just not running it how you would like, but WE VOTED NOT TO HAVE CRINGEBIN or STAMMER, make a choice, deal with it, of ferk off to Venezuela.'"
You seem perpetually angry. Just to balance things, what makes you happy in life? Nice bit of fishing on a lake? Belgian beers? Go on indulge me.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"You seem perpetually angry. Just to balance things, what makes you happy in life? Nice bit of fishing on a lake? Belgian beers? Go on indulge me.'"
Maybe it's not anger but frustration that certain posters on here have the solution to all the worlds problems.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Maybe it's not anger but frustration that certain posters on here have the solution to all the worlds problems.'"
Come on mate, the exam situation is about as bad as it could be.
I know that we're in difficult and unprecedented times and there are heaps of things that could be done differently / better.
However, this particular issue, once teachers assessments were deemed the best way forward, has been handled appallingly.
The knock on effects with University placements etc, wasn't too difficult to foresee and there should be some leadership and guidance coming from the Education Minister and if he's not up to it, he should have been replaced quickly.
There was a good article in the Times a few days ago, suggesting that Johnson, so keen to surround himself with "yes men", is losing the ability to adapt to the various situations that are currently arising, as nobody is willing or brave enough to put their head above the parapet and question anything.
Loyalty is a fantastic asset for any leader to have but, the need for some strong characters within the ruling party has never been more important.
Johnson is a "good time Charlie", very good at the back slapping and cheering from the sidelines but, he's supposed to be a Leader, not just a Cheerleader.
What is quite odd is that even when something is being handled so badly, some people cant or wont speak up.
If you want the solution to this one.
When it was decided that grades were to be decided by teachers etc, it should have been with the caveat, that those assessments would themselves be "spot checked", which would have ensured more "honest" grading.
As things are, many schools have gone for "best case" grades, which has lead to arbitrary down grading.
In some cases this will be right but, there will be some huge losers in this and at a time that may change someone's future irrevocably .
This isn't .political comment, it's just common bloody sense.
Our "friend" will still come back with his leftie /commie jibes and who knows, you may agree with him but, this is an open forum for debating current issues or, at least it used to be.
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| Quote ="IR80"They are running the country'"
Your man, Boris, is on holiday.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Maybe it's not anger but frustration that certain posters on here have the solution to all the worlds problems.'"
Well I just want to see him as a fully formed human and I can't do that until I know if he likes fancy cheeses or metal-detecting. That sort of thing.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Well I just want to see him as a fully formed human and I can't do that until I know if he likes fancy cheeses or metal-detecting. That sort of thing.'"
How do you know he's not a fully formed human being,unless of course your an expert on these matters, but I'm sure he'll be grateful for your concern, although to be perfectly honest I'm not sure whether he's a fancy cheese eating connoisseur or into metal detecting or not, he may even be erectile dysfunctional, it's not really relevant is it, it's how he sees himself that's important.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"How do you know he's not a fully formed human being,unless of course your an expert on these matters, but I'm sure he'll be grateful for your concern, although to be perfectly honest I'm not sure whether he's a fancy cheese eating connoisseur or into metal detecting or not, he may even be erectile dysfunctional, it's not really relevant is it, it's how he sees himself that's important.'"
I think IR80 is a parody based on the Viz comic strip 'The Male Online'. A lot of its replies don't make sense to what it's replying to. It sees certain words and it triggers a default reply, including some or all of the following words; politics of envy, socialism is dead, Corbyn loves the IRA, why don't you go live in Venezuela.
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| Another crisis that could have been foreseen but dogma would indicate were ignored because they know best. They were even sticking to the original plan this morning only to bow to pressure later in the day.
I believe Boris always travel with a walk in fridge for just this situation.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I think IR80 is a parody based on the Viz comic strip 'The Male Online'. A lot of its replies don't make sense to what it's replying to. It sees certain words and it triggers a default reply, including some or all of the following words; politics of envy, socialism is dead, Corbyn loves the IRA,[u why don't you go live in Venezuela.[/u'"
Not sure why you think I'd want to go live in Venezuela, there's a lot of things I'm not happy with in this country, but instead of coming on here grumbling about things and being generally bitter, I just get on with it and think how much worse it could be.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Not sure why you think I'd want to go live in Venezuela, there's a lot of things I'm not happy with in this country, but instead of coming on here grumbling about things and being generally bitter, I just get on with it and think how much worse it could be.'"
Indeed, but don't dare to have a contrary opinion, anything other than left and you get a warning. When it comes to imbeciles like King and Wren (interesting both are from Wakefield, envious, jealous, hate filled and spiteful). I am sure I will get a ban now, which will say more about the moderators than I could ever express. Opinions are all valid, but unless you love Cringebin and Stammer, think Hezbullah and the IRA have valid cause it seems this isn' the place for us.
Lehiatrot (am sure king street mange will need to look that up)
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Not sure why you think I'd want to go live in Venezuela'"
I don't. But IR80 thinks most of us should.
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| Quote ="IR80"Lehiatrot (am sure king street mange will need to look that up)'"
Maybe you should have looked it up, then you'd have spelt it right.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Maybe you should have looked it up, then you'd have spelt it right.'"
I spelt it correctly, but keep the unsults (or attempted insults) coming. An they are unsults, because they are as unimportant as you. Each day I wake up and enjoy people's company is another day you wake up sad, alone and lonely.
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| Quote ="IR80"Indeed, but don't dare to have a contrary opinion, anything other than left and you get a warning. When it comes to imbeciles like King and Wren (interesting both are from Wakefield, envious, jealous, hate filled and spiteful). I am sure I will get a ban now, which will say more about the moderators than I could ever express. Opinions are all valid, but unless you love Cringebin and Stammer, think Hezbullah and the IRA have valid cause it seems this isn' the place for us.
Lehiatrot (am sure king street mange will need to look that up)'"
Just for clarity,I’m also from Wakefield.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Just for clarity,I’m also from Wakefield.'"
as are many of my friends, just seems those two individuals have a halo and are beyond criticism or debate when the moderators get involved, RL Fans , should be LL fans, if you don't lean left you aren't allowed an opinion. Bullying, harassment is all OK, so long as you want the IRA, Hezbullah anti Jew crew in control. if I was an advertiser on here, I'd be pulling any spend.
people are dying, mistakes have been made and admitted, but all the lunatics can do is point fingers and live in joyous rhetoric of a failed ideology and 20:20 hindsight. But is says way more about their individual integrity than I ever could. Life seems to have been harsh enough to them as it is.
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| Quote ="IR80"as are many of my friends, just seems those two individuals have a halo and are beyond criticism or debate when the moderators get involved, RL Fans , should be LL fans, if you don't lean left you aren't allowed an opinion. Bullying, harassment is all OK, so long as you want the IRA, Hezbullah anti Jew crew in control. if I was an advertiser on here, I'd be pulling any spend.
people are dying, mistakes have been made and admitted, but all the lunatics can do is point fingers and live in joyous rhetoric of a failed ideology and 20:20 hindsight. But is says way more about their individual integrity than I ever could. Life seems to have been harsh enough to them as it is.'"
Perhaps if you actually read what was posted and understood the arguments being put forward, you may not have to resort to name calling and some of the schoolyard stuff.
For the record, the opening post was wholly accurate and even the government minister has felt the need for the debacle that he presided over.
The decision for students not to sit exams this year, due to Covid19, which was exactly right, was taken 4 months ago.
However, the total inability of those in charge to sort out the mess has taken too long.
Even now, decisions have been taken based on the downgraded results which prevent some students from getting to the better universities or, their first choice.
This is not jealousy on my part, it's black and white fact and it seems that I was right on this one.
Anyhow, U turn complete and we await the next issue
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| Have you ever tried arguing your point rather than falling back on your usual bile contained in every post. I will give you an opportunity to explain why you believe or even accept that the confusion and hurt caused by the education debacle is acceptable. We have students who grades were reduced because of the school and class size who have now missed out on their first choice universities.
What would you say to them because the government have not been able to come up with anything other than to try to blame others.
We all look forward to your reply without the usual left wing, go to Venezuela etc.
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