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| Good to see a politician stand up unequivocally for what he believes in without cowering in front of the liberal thought police. Whether you agree with him or not on the issues of gay marriage, abortion, etc it is refreshing to see somebody stand up for what he thinks, despite knowing there will be a backlash from the loud-mouthed, intellectually stunted, self-appointed guardians of what we should think and say. Handled the ambush so much better than Farron.
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Good to see people stand up unequivocally for what they believe in without cowering in front of the ranting right wing media. Whether you agree with them or not on the issues of gay marriage, abortion, etc it is refreshing to see somebody stand up for what they think, despite knowing that out of touch, arrogant, right wing politicians, presenting themselves as Wodehouse characters, will foist their outdated 19th century views on the country as a whole.
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| Quote ="Dally"Good to see a politician stand up unequivocally for what he believes in without cowering in front of the liberal thought police. Whether you agree with him or not on the issues of gay marriage, abortion, etc it is refreshing to see somebody stand up for what he thinks, despite knowing there will be a backlash from the loud-mouthed, intellectually stunted, self-appointed guardians of what we should think and say. Handled the ambush so much better than Farron.'"
Deary me.
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| Quote ="Dally"Good to see a politician stand up unequivocally for what he believes in without cowering in front of the liberal thought police. Whether you agree with him or not on the issues of gay marriage, abortion, etc it is refreshing to see somebody stand up for what he thinks, despite knowing there will be a backlash from the loud-mouthed, intellectually stunted, self-appointed guardians of what we should think and say. Handled the ambush so much better than Farron.'"
Well he's probably made friends with some of the right wing members of his party and alienated the rest of the world.
I dont know if you noticed but, we have moved on since the 19th century.
Perhaps you should be happy that you aren't part of any of the minority groups that he's so much against.
He'll probably be advocating stay at home wives and mums and keeping people in their place, speak when spoken to and all that.
The guy needs to go back a time machine to the era that he so craves.
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| Quote ="Dally"Deary me.'"
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| Nice one. I love it when a politician votes based on beliefs that came from an ancient book. Logic, fairness, equality, freedom are so overrated.
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| Well that's him ruling himself out of being Conservative Party leader then.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Well that's him ruling himself out of being Conservative Party leader then.'"
Maybe not, they love all that stuff in The Daily Mail
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Maybe not, they love all that stuff in The Daily Mail
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Likewise they love all that left wing momentum stuff in the guardian. If people did not like Rees-Mogg they would not vote for him. That's democracy, may not be the best system but it's still far superior to any other system.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Well that's him ruling himself out of being Conservative Party leader then.'"
Why? To me he will go up in people's estimation for being clear as to his belies and principles irrespective of whether or not they agree with him. The baying illiberal neo-fascist, 'liberal, mob will call for him go but fair-minded people will accept him.
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| Quote ="Dally"Why? To me he will go up in people's estimation for being clear as to his belies and principles irrespective of whether or not they agree with him. The baying illiberal neo-fascist, 'liberal, mob will call for him go but fair-minded people will accept him.'"
"Fair minded"
What part of Rees-Mogg is fair minded ?
I'll accept privileged but, fair minded ( fair, just, even-handed, equitable, egalitarian, impartial, non-partisan, non-discriminatory, unbiased, unprejudiced, open-minded, objective, dispassionate, unselfish,)
His views go against just about all of those definitions but, carry on, knock yourself out.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"Likewise they love all that left wing momentum stuff in the guardian. If people did not like Rees-Mogg they would not vote for him. That's democracy, may not be the best system but it's still far superior to any other system.'"
Well is it the best or isn't it?!
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| Quote ="wrencat1873""Fair minded"
What part of Rees-Mogg is fair minded ?
I'll accept privileged but, fair minded ( fair, just, even-handed, equitable, egalitarian, impartial, non-partisan, non-discriminatory, unbiased, unprejudiced, open-minded, objective, dispassionate, unselfish,)
His views go against just about all of those definitions but, carry on, knock yourself out.
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I did not express an opinion on whether or not Mr Rees-Mogg is fair-minded or not as I do not personally know him. What I said was that fair-minded people would accept that he should be able to hold his own beliefs and express them without hysterical people saying he should not.
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| I've no problem with JRM becoming Tory leader, he's that far away from the vast majority of the uk it should give Corbyn a landslide win.
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| Actually these views should endear him to the left, after all they align almost perfectly with that 'religion of peace' they're always telling us we must welcome into British society with open and tolerant arms.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I've no problem with JRM becoming Tory leader, he's that far away from the vast majority of the uk it should give Corbyn a landslide win.'"
My thoughts exactly - power to his elbow; let them elect him as leader, and make the Tories irrelevant for the next ten years.
The man is a walking anachronism, with the faint air of a PG Wodehouse character; smug, sneering, privileged and with not the faintest understanding of, or respect for, ordinary people. And to the OP who claims, rather hopefully, that fair minded people will respect his offensive views - no, they actually won't.
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| I think he has more in common with national action than the left.
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| He's entitled to his views. I don't think anyone has said he isn't. The fact that his views on abortion have more in common with those of the mullahs of the Taliban than the majority of people in this country show him to be out of touch. It shows a lack of empathy, compassion and pragmatism that would preclude him from being in high office.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I've no problem with JRM becoming Tory leader, he's that far away from the vast majority of the uk it should give Corbyn a landslide win.'"
He'll be very popular with the oldest voters and he's become a cult figure among sections of the young. Be careful what you wish for.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I think he has more in common with national action than the left.'"
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| Quote ="Bullseye"He's entitled to his views. I don't think anyone has said he isn't. The fact that his views on abortion have more in common with those of the mullahs of the Taliban than the majority of people in this country show him to be out of touch. It shows a lack of empathy, compassion and pragmatism that would preclude him from being in high office.'"
I think not. He clearly distinguished between the law as set by the elected representatives on the people and his personal beliefs.
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| I think you're mistaken. Even most of the oldest voters don't share his views on abortion (it being accepted in UK law for 50 years).
He was the ONLY MP in the house to vote against keeping open the DUBS scheme for unaccompanied child refugees. Despite the Pope saying at the time "Protecting the world's migrants and refugees is a moral imperative". Seems he's keener on certain Catholic teachings than others.
Under the novelty persona lies an unpleasant man.
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Quote ="Dally"He'll be very popular with the oldest voters and he's become a cult figure among sections of the young. Be careful what you wish for.'"
There's no one who'd have voted labour who's now in moggmentum.
He'll have a cult following with these s
metro.co.uk/2017/08/30/young-tor ... s-6891620/
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There's no one who'd have voted labour who's now in moggmentum.
He'll have a cult following with these s
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| Quote ="Bullseye"
Under the novelty persona lies an unpleasant man.'"
The same as Boris, when you look what they actually stand for it's repulsive.
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| Quote ="Dally"he's become a cult figure among sections of the young'"
That would be the "young" who tried to form a Tory version of Momentum, and were quickly outed (by Guido Fawkes no less) as having a WhatsApp group where they had a jolly old lol about gassing chavs?
I don't think anyone in Labour will be worried too much about the potential for those people to be swing voters, do you?
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