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| Has there ever been a less compassionate leader of the country.
Regardless on her inability to lead her party or the country and her constant U turns, our under pressure Prime Minister seems to have no idea how to deal with the tragic events following the Tower Block fire in Kensington.
To see her screwed up face telling the nation that "we have given each of the families £500" was just plain insulting.
THey have nowhere to live, the clothes on their backs.
Not a single mention of the pain, suffering and distress that every resident will be feeling but, "here's £500".
I know that she will soon be gone but, she is a disgrace to humanity.
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| This weekend she was attending a "village fete" and posed for photographs with some of her supporters.
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| That was Ted Heath.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Has there ever been a less compassionate leader of the country.
Regardless on her inability to lead her party or the country and her constant U turns, our under pressure Prime Minister seems to have no idea how to deal with the tragic events following the Tower Block fire in Kensington.
To see her screwed up face telling the nation that "we have given each of the families £500" was just plain insulting.
THey have nowhere to live, the clothes on their backs.
Not a single mention of the pain, suffering and distress that every resident will be feeling but, "here's £500".
I know that she will soon be gone but, she is a disgrace to humanity.'"
Investigations and claims have to be made and done yet. If this was me, you or whoever and our house burnt down we would have to wait an eternity for our insurance claim to come through before we got anything. Only going off what i have seen but i believe the victims are being put up in hotels for now and the £500 is just the start with more to soon follow.
What would you expect to happen? start housing the people in the empty houses of Kensington like Corbyn suggests? how much should they get, what figure is reasonable to you?
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Investigations and claims have to be made and done yet. If this was me, you or whoever and our house burnt down we would have to wait an eternity for our insurance claim to come through before we got anything. Only going off what i have seen but i believe the victims are being put up in hotels for now and the £500 is just the start with more to soon follow.
What would you expect to happen? start housing the people in the empty houses of Kensington like Corbyn suggests? how much should they get, what figure is reasonable to you?'"
It's not about the cash, it's about her total lack of empathy for those involved.
The way she came across was like Jim Bowen giving out the "booby" prize on Bullseye.
She appears scared of meeting the victims, who should be given absolute priority here and whilst there is little doubt that the emergency services have gone through the wringer and deserve some praise for their efforts (remembering that they have their income effectively frozen for 7 years !), the only people that really matter here are the residents and their families.
Also, it's worth remembering that this was social housing, tarted up to look "acceptable" to the much wealthier neighbours but, seemingly done on the cheap, with catastrophic consequences.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It's not about the cash, it's about her total lack of empathy for those involved.
The way she came across was like Jim Bowen giving out the "booby" prize on Bullseye.
She appears scared of meeting the victims, who should be given absolute priority here and whilst there is little doubt that the emergency services have gone through the wringer and deserve some praise for their efforts (remembering that they have their income effectively frozen for 7 years !), the only people that really matter here are the residents and their families.
Also, it's worth remembering that this was social housing, tarted up to look "acceptable" to the much wealthier neighbours but, seemingly done on the cheap, with catastrophic consequences.'"
you made a big point that the £500 was pure insulting, when infact if you dig a little further they are getting the £500 in cash and tomorrow a bank transfer of over 5k each. And i'm sure there will plenty more things in due course to help the victims. We are all by now aware of the circumstances leading to this tragedy, we just have to trust that the people responsible are made to pay.
I don't disagree about May, she should have addressed the victims personally. That was a mistake but she has since admitted that and invited them to downing street before the weekend.Not sure what else she can do now really on that front, it really has been a whirlwind few months on the political front, a lot she has brought on her self by calling the GE.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"you made a big point that the £500 was pure insulting, when infact if you dig a little further they are getting the £500 in cash and tomorrow a bank transfer of over 5k each. And i'm sure there will plenty more things in due course to help the victims. We are all by now aware of the circumstances leading to this tragedy, we just have to trust that the people responsible are made to pay.
I don't disagree about May, she should have addressed the victims personally. That was a mistake but she has since admitted that and invited them to downing street before the weekend.Not sure what else she can do now really on that front, it really has been a whirlwind few months on the political front, a lot she has brought on her self by calling the GE.'"
Agreed
I know that hindsight is a wonderful thing and there is little doubt that she wishes that she could turn the clock back and do things a little differently.
However, right from the point that she called the snap election, which she had said that she wouldn't do, everything she has done has been a mistake and she now walks into the Brexit negotiations in the weakest possible position.
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| Just because she showed little emotion/empathy doesn't make her the Worst PM of all time does it? Nothing like going over the top.
Her job is to run the bloody country not go around putting arms around People. Let the Major and his cohorts do that.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Also, it's worth remembering that this was social housing, tarted up to look "acceptable" to the much wealthier neighbours but, seemingly done on the cheap, with catastrophic consequences.'"
The request to bulldoze the block, people and all into the ground to make way for a supercar dealership was turned down. The cheap cladding was the next best option.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"she now walks into the Brexit negotiations in the weakest possible position.'"
But fear not - in a Trump like pronouncement, the giggling idiot David Davis has said he intends to get "a deal like no other in history."
I feel much better.
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| Quote ="Exiled down south"Just because she showed little emotion/empathy doesn't make her the Worst PM of all time does it? Nothing like going over the top.
Her job is to run the bloody country not go around putting arms around People. Let the Major and his cohorts do that.'"
No, her lack of genuine sympathy does not make her the worst prime minister.
However, her utter lack of judgement on all aspects of running the country does.
Dementia tax U turn
Cutting disabled benefits U turn
Calling an election when it wasnt going to happen till 2020
Screwing up response to the Grenfell fire.
Coalition with DUP
Generally she is weak and unstable, the polar opposite of the current Tory mantra and these are some of the reasons that she is THE worst prime minister in the last 40 years and shes only been at the helm for a very short time.
If there has been anyone as bad please feel free to offer their name and why they could possibly be worse and perhaps you could give some examples of the good that she has done so far, it should be interesting.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"No, her lack of genuine sympathy does not make her the worst prime minister.
However, her utter lack of judgement on all aspects of running the country does.
Dementia tax U turn
Cutting disabled benefits U turn
Calling an election when it wasnt going to happen till 2020
Screwing up response to the Grenfell fire.
Coalition with DUP
Generally she is weak and unstable, the polar opposite of the current Tory mantra and these are some of the reasons that she is THE worst prime minister in the last 40 years and shes only been at the helm for a very short time.
If there has been anyone as bad please feel free to offer their name and why they could possibly be worse and perhaps you could give some examples of the good that she has done so far, it should be interesting.'"
Jim Callaghan by far the worst PM - at least May has got the IMF to bail the country out and we can at least get our bins emptied and bury our dead
That's what happens when you have a postman running the country.
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| May's final words after sacking Osbourne as chancellor was 'You need to know your party better' Well Mrs May, I think that you need to know the people you are governing better.
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| More utter tosh from flea bag, about time there was a separate thread for "ingrained hatred and Tory bashing"...
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| Quote ="Exiled down south"Just because she showed little emotion/empathy doesn't make her the Worst PM of all time does it? Nothing like going over the top.
Her job is to run the bloody country not go around putting arms around People. Let the Major and his cohorts do that.'"
If I was one of the people who survived the fire but lost everything including possibly family members the last thing I'd be bloody interested in a meet and greet good PR for them with the PM, Corbyn or the Queen.
If the Queen feels that bad for the victims why doesn't she put up some of the homeless in Buckingham Palace for a couple of nights?
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"More utter tosh from flea bag, about time there was a separate thread for "ingrained hatred and Tory bashing"...'"
Were you looking in the mirror as you wrote that or, do you think she is the right person to take us forward, which, not too many others do.
Maybe she doesn't mean to sneer at those less well of than her and her husband but, she still manages to look down her nose at anyone she doesn't agree with.
Also, where does flea bag come from
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| Quote Were you looking in the mirror as you wrote that or, do you think she is the right person to take us forward, which, not too many others do.'"
Did you miss the election result 2 weeks ago?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Also, where does flea bag come from
'" I'll leave you with your supreme intellect to figure that out. What's wrong today, did the PRIME MINISTER not wake you with a personal alarm call?
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"I'll leave you with your supreme intellect to figure that out. What's wrong today, did the PRIME MINISTER not wake you with a personal alarm call?'"
She'd probably mess that up too. "Yes Mr Wrencat, I'll wake you up at 7am sharp", only to do a U-turn in the middle of the night and decide not to go ahead with it, Wrencat sleeps in and it ruins his day, and instead of speaking to Wrencat personally to say sorry & explain, she issues a robotic, soulless apology from outside number 10.
Anyway, "PCollinson". Feel free to actually contribute to the thread instead of dishing out insults. Discussing the performance of our Prime Minister is a perfectly valid topic, wherever someone sits on the political spectrum. Her performance & decisions effect us all. If you don't agree with his points, debate them and make your own, that's how it works. You don't want to get banned again do you, like your previous three incarnations.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"I'll leave you with your supreme intellect to figure that out. What's wrong today, did the PRIME MINISTER not wake you with a personal alarm call?'"
You really are quite funny.
Of course I saw the election result, a hung parliament (something slightly different to a landslide victory, dont you think).
Mrs May currently has the opposite of the Midas touch, everything she has done while in the top job has turned to crap.
If you think this is good for you or, the country, knock yourself out, you deserve each other.
Personally, I think that we can all do a hell of a lot better.
We need a strong and stable party with a strong and stable leader to take us forward not a spinning wind bag, full of U turns and hot air.
She talks a storm and delivers NOTHING.
If you believe that she is so good, perhaps you can enlighten us as to ANY of her achievements so far, whilst in office.
Come on wise guy, tell us all just how good she is.
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| Quote ="DGM"She'd probably mess that up too. "Yes Mr Wrencat, I'll wake you up at 7am sharp", only to do a U-turn in the middle of the night and decide not to go ahead with it, Wrencat sleeps in and it ruins his day, and instead of speaking to Wrencat personally to say sorry & explain, she issues a robotic, soulless apology from outside number 10.
Anyway, "PCollinson". Feel free to actually contribute to the thread instead of dishing out insults. Discussing the performance of our Prime Minister is a perfectly valid topic, wherever someone sits on the political spectrum. Her performance & decisions effect us all. If you don't agree with his points, debate them and make your own, that's how it works. You don't want to get banned again do you, like your previous three incarnations.'"
It is but you also have to have an open mind about other PM's and their performance - Brown was hardly empathetic to anyone including his own MPs. Blair took us into a war on false pretences which might now be responsible for the killings in Manchester and London, Callaghan had to call in the IMF etc.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You really are quite funny.
Of course I saw the election result, a hung parliament (something slightly different to a landslide victory, dont you think).
Mrs May currently has the opposite of the Midas touch, everything she has done while in the top job has turned to crap.
If you think this is good for you or, the country, knock yourself out, you deserve each other.
Personally, I think that we can all do a hell of a lot better.
We need a strong and stable party with a strong and stable leader to take us forward not a spinning wind bag, full of U turns and hot air.
She talks a storm and delivers NOTHING.
If you believe that she is so good, perhaps you can enlighten us as to ANY of her achievements so far, whilst in office.
Come on wise guy, tell us all just how good she is.'"
What ever she has or hasn't done she still c1m more people to vote for her than Jeremy got to vote for him despite offering to give everybody everything. I think that's the bit that irks you the most It could actually be worse - Jeremy could be in charge and Diane Abbot would be the Home Secretary!!!
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Jeremy could be in charge and Diane Abbot would be the Home Secretary!!!'"
:shudder: A woman who can't manage a basic condition (it isn't an illness), yet she thinks she could manage the foreign office. Theresa May (and the Tory's as a whole) biggest achievement so far has been to keep the Labour party out and prevent another round of profligate spending brining the country to bankruptcy [iAGAIN[/i.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"It is but you also have to have an open mind about other PM's and their performance - Brown was hardly empathetic to anyone including his own MPs. Blair took us into a war on false pretences which might now be responsible for the killings in Manchester and London, Callaghan had to call in the IMF etc.'"
Indeed, completely agree on that point, and on Blair/Brown (Callaghan was before my time, I don't know enough about him).
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