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| Quote ="wrencat1873"How will Brexit make any difference ?
The deals with EDF, to build new Nuclear Power Stations have already been signed (prior to the referendum) and we have effectively agreed to I think a 30% increase by 2020 ?.
Unless you think that Brexit will change this, which it wont, you should expect your energy costs to rise steadily until 2020 and probably beyond.
If we were still digging coal from the ground we may still have some control but, instead, we have put our energy supplies in French hands, oh yeah and then fallen out with them
All good stuff.
At least we will have "control"
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Who mentioned nuclear stations and price increases. And as for this latest increase it took our government by surprise ... so no arrangement there then.
And after that you agree with the point I was making about putting ourselves at the mercy of our lost friends.
Not sure any of them liked us anyway .. |
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Not sure any of them liked us anyway ..'"
Apart from the economic powerhouse that is Malta; they've said this morning that they've always been our friend and they always will be - which is very sweet, but not especially reassuring. |
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Who mentioned nuclear stations and price increases. And as for this latest increase it took our government by surprise ... so no arrangement there then.
And after that you agree with the point I was making about putting ourselves at the mercy of our lost friends.
Not sure any of them liked us anyway ..'"
You mentioned that you would be "surprised if Brexit didnt result in a change of tack"
Brexit wont make any difference unless we renege on the deal with EDF to build new power stations, which isn't going to happen.
You may not have mentioned power stations but, we are locked in to year on year increases because of that deal. |
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Quote ="wrencat1873"You mentioned that you would be "surprised if Brexit didnt result in a change of tack"
Brexit wont make any difference unless we renege on the deal with EDF to build new power stations, [size=150which isn't going to happen.[/size
You may not have mentioned power stations but, we are locked in to year on year increases because of that deal.'"
You KNOW some stuff you do, and your certainty and faith is touching but possibly misplaced.
A nuclear plant takes ten years to get built and so is irrevant until it happens and produces some juice.
Personally I would bin the French and their technology and money and bin the Chinese and their money.
Pay any penalties, then get the technology and cash from the States. Read this ....
www.theweek.co.uk/60778/hinkley- ... -by-brexit
More up to date but same message ...
www.hl.co.uk/news/2017/1/30/hink ... -by-brexit
And one other thing you brought in EDF, I was talking specifically about nPower putting prices up ... a German owned company. So a French company can dictate what the Germans charge can it?
It's a strange old world where one company can let another company do all the work and still match their price increases. Who would build a nuclear station eh?
Estimated cost £18 Billion .... if past experience is anything to go by it will be 3 or 4 times that. And if we don't pay, they can down tools at £18 Billion. Some penalties no doubt, but they can plead poverty.  D
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Quote ="wrencat1873"You mentioned that you would be "surprised if Brexit didnt result in a change of tack"
Brexit wont make any difference unless we renege on the deal with EDF to build new power stations, [size=150which isn't going to happen.[/size
You may not have mentioned power stations but, we are locked in to year on year increases because of that deal.'"
You KNOW some stuff you do, and your certainty and faith is touching but possibly misplaced.
A nuclear plant takes ten years to get built and so is irrevant until it happens and produces some juice.
Personally I would bin the French and their technology and money and bin the Chinese and their money.
Pay any penalties, then get the technology and cash from the States. Read this ....
www.theweek.co.uk/60778/hinkley- ... -by-brexit
More up to date but same message ...
www.hl.co.uk/news/2017/1/30/hink ... -by-brexit
And one other thing you brought in EDF, I was talking specifically about nPower putting prices up ... a German owned company. So a French company can dictate what the Germans charge can it?
It's a strange old world where one company can let another company do all the work and still match their price increases. Who would build a nuclear station eh?
Estimated cost £18 Billion .... if past experience is anything to go by it will be 3 or 4 times that. And if we don't pay, they can down tools at £18 Billion. Some penalties no doubt, but they can plead poverty. D
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| Quote ="Dally"With age comes wisdom.'"
You show very little evidence of that. Being older may give you experience, but that isnt always good. This board is full of older people that have some very jaundiced views and very little knowledge beyond what they WANT to believe. |
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"You show very little evidence of that. Being older may give you experience, but that isnt always good. This board is full of older people that have some very jaundiced views and very little knowledge beyond what they WANT to believe.'"
A string of unsubstantiated remarks there if ever I saw one! Were you trying to make a point or just fancied typing? |
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| Quote ="Dally"A string of unsubstantiated remarks there if ever I saw one! Were you trying to make a point or just fancied typing?'"
A bit like your remark saying with age comes wisdom. |
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The fact you quote that opinonated,disigenous rag kind of makes my point.
Older people like other older peoples opinion, shock news I am sure. |
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The fact you quote that opinonated,disigenous rag kind of makes my point.
Older people like other older peoples opinion, shock news I am sure. | |
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But it is unsubstantiated and providing a link to the daily mail doesn't prove it otherwise.
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But it is unsubstantiated and providing a link to the daily mail doesn't prove it otherwise.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"But it is unsubstantiated and providing a link to the daily mail doesn't prove it otherwise.'"
And woosh, he's gone, I cant respect anyone incapable of debate, and in short time posting it seems Dally is exactly that |
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Quote ="PCollinson1990"The fact you quote that opinonated,disigenous rag kind of makes my point.
Older people like other older peoples opinion, shock news I am sure.'"
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/ ... shows.html
What is your point? Have you put any evidence forward other than your personal, and no doubt juvenile, prejudice? |
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Quote ="PCollinson1990"The fact you quote that opinonated,disigenous rag kind of makes my point.
Older people like other older peoples opinion, shock news I am sure.'"
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/ ... shows.html
What is your point? Have you put any evidence forward other than your personal, and no doubt juvenile, prejudice? | |
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"The fact you quote that opinonated,disigenous rag kind of makes my point.
Older people like other older peoples opinion, shock news I am sure.'"
In the unlikely event that you might wish to go back to source and then "debate" the issue of Brexit sensibly:
With Age Comes Wisdom
Decision Making in Younger and Older Adults
Darrell A. Worthy, Marissa A. Gorlick, Jennifer L. Pacheco, David M. Schnyer, W. Todd Maddox
First Published September 29, 2011 research-article |
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| Quote ="Dally"www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/elder/8720182/Wisdom-comes-with-age-study-shows.html
What is your point? Have you put any evidence forward other than your personal, and no doubt juvenile, prejudice?'"
Again, you don't stand up, you quote newspapers, and I use the word "news" in its loosest sense. One day you will decide not to derail every thread, maybe even form an opinion of your own. Try it, you may well learn something! |
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| Quote ="Dally"With age comes wisdom.'"
I wish that was the case with my mother-in-law. |
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So in summary, the stupid and the old voted to leave; does that cover it?
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| Quote ="bren2k"So in summary, the stupid and the old voted to leave; does that cover it?'"
Close. |
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| Quote ="bren2k"So in summary, the stupid and the old voted to leave; does that cover it?'"
I think the poor, the rich and the wise voted out. The middle of the road and sheep voted remain. I think that more clearly sums it to.
NB Those graphs are misleading in that the percentage of graduates in areas with younger populations (eg inner cities) will be higher than in areas with older populations. That has nothing at all to do with relative intelligence but rather the enormous expansion in higher education in recent times meaning that so many simple-minded souls now get "degrees." |
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| Quote ="Dally"I think the poor, the rich and the wise voted out. The middle of the road and sheep voted remain. I think that more clearly sums it to.
NB Those graphs are misleading in that the percentage of graduates in areas with younger populations (eg inner cities) will be higher than in areas with older populations. That has nothing at all to do with relative intelligence but rather the enormous expansion in higher education in recent times meaning that so many simple-minded souls now get "degrees."'"
The only sheep where the ignorant, intolerant and largely racist people. Nothing to do with wealth.
I'll make you a challenge, post something "wise" that wasnt written by somone else, or a link.
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| Quote ="Dally"I think the poor, the rich and the wise voted out. The middle of the road and sheep voted remain. I think that more clearly sums it to.
NB Those graphs are misleading in that the percentage of graduates in areas with younger populations (eg inner cities) will be higher than in areas with older populations. That has nothing at all to do with relative intelligence but rather the enormous expansion in higher education in recent times meaning that so many simple-minded souls now get "degrees."'"
How was "truth" substantiated and the source of the data?
Perhaps it was a figment of your imagination.who knows. |
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"How was "truth" substantiated and the source of the data?
Perhaps it was a figment of your imagination.who knows.'"
What truth? |
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| Quote ="Dally"I think the poor, the rich and the wise voted out. The middle of the road and sheep voted remain. I think that more clearly sums it to.'"
I never had you pegged as poor. |
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| Quote ="DaveO"I never had you pegged as poor.'" I am. |
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