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| Is there anything that you would look out for when thinking about buying a house in relation to potentially problem neighbours?
We have been looking at potential properties for a while now and would be interested to know if people have taken any steps to check out their new neighbours before making an offer.
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| I did when buying my first house. Went along the street of an evening and at different times of the weekend to see what goes on - dogs, kids, comings & goings etc, parking.
Also ended up knocking on their neighbours doors (it was a row of terraced houses) and told them I was thinking of buying the house 2 doors down and had they had any issues with the neighbours. Maybe not the done thing, but if you don't ask you will never find out.
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| Any past problems and disputes should also be declared before contracts are exchanged, so if you end up living next door to a cannabis den with local mafia neighbours and police camped in the street, then you can sue your sellers.
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| But you'd still be living next door to nutters
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| I'm moving house. Don't live next door to me.
Forewarned and all that.
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| Be careful whatever you do. My brother was buying a house in Essex, it seemed a bargain. He wasn't sure because it was priced £20,000 short of it's true value and wasn't selling. So he staked the place out, driving through, parking up near the local shops and going to buy a drink or a paper, walking through the estate and back to his car. He'd spend a couple of hours a night there for about ten days to get a feel for what it was like, whether there was trouble on a weekend or if there were groups of kids hanging round. He ended up getting picked up by the Police as some woman had spotted him doing this and reported him for staking out the estate, as there had been a spate of burglaries in the area. They didn't really buy his story and it was only the lack of any evidence that stopped it going any further.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"I'm moving house. Don't live next door to me.
Forewarned and all that.'"
I wouldn't want to live next door to any of you, that's why I moved up here
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| And we, Chief, we're eternally grateful.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"And we, Chief, we're eternally grateful.'"
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| I've done all sorts of late, gone to places at all times, day and night.
One near the A1 who the estate agent assured me wouldn't be an issue at night, so when on a late shift at work, i drove up and parked next to the place, opened my window, reclined my seat and chilled for a good...
......2 minutes before i was sick of the noise.
Another place with hundreds of kids at certain times but never funnily enough when the estate agent was prepared to show me "It's a really quiet family area"...like sack it was quiet.
I'm now in Woolmer Green....bliss
Do your homework and yes definitely knock on potential neighbours doors, it's the biggest purchase of your life, be bold, be cheeky it's a damn site better than being miserable and regretful.
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| Aren't Estate Agents supposed to let you know, by law, if there are problems where you buy your house ?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Aren't Estate Agents supposed to let you know, by law, if there are problems where you buy your house ?'"
I would've thought so but of course the big problem is that the estate agent is (effectively) employed by the seller.
What we need is a service that works on behalf of the buyer and so is accountable to the buyer.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Aren't Estate Agents supposed to let you know, by law, if there are problems where you buy your house ?'"
As I mentioned on the previous page there is a pre-contract enquiry form that the seller MUST complete truthfully, so if they have any disputes with neighbours they have to disclose it at that point, if they don't then you can sue them afterwards.
As the Aardvark Lawman pointed out though, you only find that out after you've bought the house and even though you MIGHT be able to recover some money from the seller (if they have any ready cash to give you) its a legal process that will cost you and then you'll still have bad neighbours, you also have to be in the legal process (ie proceeding to contract) before all of these searches are carried out so if you decide to back out when you get the form back then you'll still have spent some money with your solicitor although it won't be an awful lot, believe it or not the solicitor is the lowest paid element in your house move.
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| Quote ="Him"
What we need is a service that works on behalf of the buyer and so is accountable to the buyer.'"
That's the job of the Buyer's solicitor.
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| Make sure that the neighbours are owner occupiers if possible. The guy who bought the house next door to us decided to rent his house out and he seems to have a never ending supply of nutters and weirdos. Stories to tell there!
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"As I mentioned on the previous page there is a pre-contract enquiry form that the seller MUST complete truthfully,
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That's a laugh. Just moved house, "Have you ever had any problems with the drains" - "Not to our knowledge" was the answer on that particualr questionnaire. After our first use of the bath the downstairs toilet flooded - the foul pipe from the front of the house to the drain under the drive was blocked with tree roots - completely. After getting that cleared out we then had sewage start appearing in the back garden from the rear drain. After having the main drain surveyed with a camera the pipe to the main sewer had collapsed - and was half blocked - and it hadn't just happened either. We were very lucky because recent legislation makes your water company responsible for any of your pipes once they leave your property. The main sewer hub was in our neighbours front drive and the pipe had collapsed just before joining it. Our introduction the the pensioner next door was "hello, we just moved in and Wessex water are going to have dig a 3 metre deep trench in your front garden".
In the end we had all the money we had spent re-imbursed by Wessex Water (and very quickly), they also replaced the pipe and cleared up the old boys garden pretty well.
Going through other sections on that form though and there are some things we will be sending letters to our solicitor about - subsidence and flooding to name but two, which they have clearly lied through their bumholes about.
The problem with that form is that it offers the option of "not known". There is no way they could not have known about the drains as they were completely blocked (and the neighbour told us they were out regualrly rodding them).
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| Quote ="DHM"That's a laugh. Just moved house, "Have you ever had any problems with the drains" - "Not to our knowledge" was the answer on that particualr questionnaire. After our first use of the bath the downstairs toilet flooded - the foul pipe from the front of the house to the drain under the drive was blocked with tree roots - completely. After getting that cleared out we then had sewage start appearing in the back garden from the rear drain. After having the main drain surveyed with a camera the pipe to the main sewer had collapsed - and was half blocked - and it hadn't just happened either. We were very lucky because recent legislation makes your water company responsible for any of your pipes once they leave your property. The main sewer hub was in our neighbours front drive and the pipe had collapsed just before joining it. Our introduction the the pensioner next door was "hello, we just moved in and Wessex water are going to have dig a 3 metre deep trench in your front garden".
In the end we had all the money we had spent re-imbursed by Wessex Water (and very quickly), they also replaced the pipe and cleared up the old boys garden pretty well.
Going through other sections on that form though and there are some things we will be sending letters to our solicitor about - subsidence and flooding to name but two, which they have clearly lied through their bumholes about.
The problem with that form is that it offers the option of "not known". There is no way they could not have known about the drains as they were completely blocked (and the neighbour told us they were out regualrly rodding them).'"
You can look forward to spending more money with your solicitor then
I'm just glad that you didn't have those forms in the 1990s when we sold one of our houses (we've moved eight times so far, would have been cheaper being gypsies), "Does your house sit right on top of an underground stream" would have been answered as "Possibly" and "Does the water ever gather in your ground floor void to a depth of several feet and almost come through the floorboards after several days rain" would have been "Its feasible", after several days rain we had the hidden hatch in the kitchen cupboard open permanently watching the water table rise until it was time to get the Hippo pump out again.
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| Quote ="Wharfedale"Make sure that the neighbours are owner occupiers if possible. The guy who bought the house next door to us decided to rent his house out and he seems to have a never ending supply of nutters and weirdos. Stories to tell there!'"
This.
Once had the misfortune to have someone move into the stone terrace next door then decide to let it out. He first decided to strip all the plaster off the walls and put in wooden stairs and remove all the carpets to make "a stone terrace with a twist". The result was that if someone in it so much as broke wind you heard every detail as there were no soft furnishings or plaster to absorb or muffle the sound.
We then had a succession of young lads or young couples move in over 6 month intervals. We heard all the rows, all the makeup sex, all the practicing on musical instruments, all the heavy bass at parties, all the TV and every single movement. I'm amazed we managed to sell!
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| Never buy a house from anyone involved in the building trade.
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| Quote ="Cibaman"Never buy a house from anyone involved in the building trade.'"
Oh I saw a cracking example of this many years ago, an old couple selling the house that they had bought from new 30 years previously, more than that he had been a joiner and had worked on every house on the estate, I have to say in his favour that he bought one of the better positioned ones though. The poor old sod had terminal heart desease and could barely walk five yards but he propped himself up and showed us around his house which was obviously his pride and joy.
As were all of the cupboards and secret hidey-holes that he had built into the cavity walls over the years, he literally went around touching parts of what looked like walls only to have a hatch spring open and a space the depth of the internal partition wall be revealed, with great pride from him, the fact that you couldn't put anything in these three inch deep cupboards seemed to have passed him by - there were hundreds of them in the house, at one point he showed us the standard Woolworths medicine cabinet in the bathroom, then he pressed something and it unhinged itself from the wall and swung open to reveal another cavity wall cupboard behind it, "Its where I keep me meds" he said, as if his heart medicine was top secret or something.
We didn't buy the house.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"icon_biggrin.gif
Oh I saw a cracking example of this many years ago, an old couple selling the house that they had bought from new 30 years previously, more than that he had been a joiner and had worked on every house on the estate, I have to say in his favour that he bought one of the better positioned ones though. The poor old sod had terminal heart desease and could barely walk five yards but he propped himself up and showed us around his house which was obviously his pride and joy.
As were all of the cupboards and secret hidey-holes that he had built into the cavity walls over the years, he literally went around touching parts of what looked like walls only to have a hatch spring open and a space the depth of the internal partition wall be revealed, with great pride from him, the fact that you couldn't put anything in these three inch deep cupboards seemed to have passed him by - there were hundreds of them in the house, at one point he showed us the standard Woolworths medicine cabinet in the bathroom, then he pressed something and it unhinged itself from the wall and swung open to reveal another cavity wall cupboard behind it, "Its where I keep me meds" he said, as if his heart medicine was top secret or something.
We didn't buy the house.'"
I actually laughed out loud to this! The guy that had our house before us didn't like stripping wallpaper, he didn't just wallpaper over the top, he built a new stud wall against the existing wall, then when he didn't like that wall finish, he stuck twin-wall plastic sheeting to it, my kitchen cupboards were 4" short from the walls when I had removed it all!
Been in my first house for about 18 months and the saying "there's Nowt so queer as folk" definitely springs to mind when thinking about my neighbours - maybe it's just us!
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"But you'd still be living next door to nutters'"
As long as they didn't play Nirvana allday long i wouldn't really be bothered
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| Quote ="The Mustard Tiger"As long as they didn't play Nirvana allday long i wouldn't really be bothered
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Get a fscking job, then it would make no difference to you what they did all day
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Get a fscking job, then it would make no difference to you what they did all day
'" I have a job thank you very much, it's hard work being a Traffic Warden
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